TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[Afif]

HQ9 chinese SAM is very efficient in exercise, but proved to be deceipt full in combat.

Nope, it didn't. But not a relevant discussion to this thread.

 

[MMM-E]

TAI and TEI says KAAN will fly with the TF-35.000 Engine by 2029 and final delivery by 2033

This bunch of incompetent idiots comes here and badmouths TAI - TEI and KAAN projects

They say believe those who copy and paste information they gather from the internet, and share like clowns on social media everyday, instead of believing a global giant like ASELSAN

İf you want to know how sensor fusion works, shut up and go to BAYKAR to see what about fault tolerant triple redundant Sensor Fusion on the KIZILELMA

official source :

https://cdn.baykartech.com/media/upload/userFormUpload/2J3zB4L5xcfjVkf7OTLQo6jhfe8hL5l3.pdf

 

[Pokemonte13]

TAI and TEI says KAAN will fly with the TF-35.000 Engine by 2029 and final delivery by 2033

This bunch of incompetent idiots comes here and badmouths TAI - TEI and KAAN projects

They say believe those who copy and paste information they gather from the internet, and share like clowns on social media everyday, instead of believing a global giant like ASELSAN

İf you want to know how sensor fusion works, shut up and go to BAYKAR to see what about fault tolerant triple redundant Sensor Fusion on the KIZILELMA

official source :

https://cdn.baykartech.com/media/upload/userFormUpload/2J3zB4L5xcfjVkf7OTLQo6jhfe8hL5l3.pdf

Those dates are optimistic estimation they want the engine to fly until then but that doesn't mean that it will. TAI also wanted to deliver a total of 23 helicopters till the end of 26 but that also wont happen. These are high technology fields and delays are usual especially when they give unrealistic number to begin with. Its a work in progress and timeframes often change.

 

[MMM-E]

See you still confuse sub-systems with "how a system works."

If you don't like Arda and Kubilay. Go listen to Feridun Taştan. I already gave you the link. He fully explains the sensor fusion.

ASELSAN and BAYKAR dont know how sensor fusion works but Kubilay, Arda and Feridun Taştan knows better

Go tell these things to teenagers on YouTube.

I could share the same information with my 200,000 followers on YouTube.

 

[MMM-E]

Those dates are optimistic estimation they want the engine to fly until then but that doesn't mean that it will.

When I said in 2020 that KAAN would make its first flight in 2023, the same group here accused me of dreaming and called KAAN a nationalist fake project

What happened? KAAN made its first flight in 2024

Of course, there will be delays in projects. , therefore I always said that 2033-2035 period when TAI-TEI said final delivery 2033

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I'm not interested in so-called defensive analyses;
official sources speak even more assertively.

TEI General Manager Prof Dr Mahmut Akşit

Our people can rest assured; the KAAN's engine will arrive sooner than everyone hoped.

We will see it fly soon, but we do not have the authority to disclose the timing.

It will be one of the top 3 Engines in the world.

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[Sinan]

KALE AERO developed a turbojet engine in 4 years, but the Turkish Armed Forces were not satisfied with its quality to compare with NATO standart
and KALE AERO spent 10 years trying to obtain an engine of the desired quality.

btw , TEI is not KALE-AERO ,,, TEI has great technologies , great experience since 1985 and state of the art facilities with more engineers




The Chinese kept coming here after every post, they said that Turkiye wouldn't be able to mass produce KAAN even in 2050

They said Turkiye lacks advanced electronic industry
( ASELSAN is one of leading companies in the world for advanced electronics-avionics, radars, ew systems ,etc )

and people like you applauded them with your schizophrenic mind

KAAN a kalorifer petegi , vileda sapı diyen aynı zihniyet
It's the same mentality that calls KAAN a radiator and a mop handle.

No, he is not bad-mouthing. He is giving his opinion. Because the things we are trying to make is not easy as you claim. He is giving his opinion let's say on Galium.

He thinks that if a country doesn't have Galium production on scale, it's a compramize. It is his opinion, you can answer by saying even US doesn't have a meaningful galium production and outsources it. So, by his logic F-35 and F-22 is not sustanable ???

You answer him, instead of labeling people as enemies of Türkiye.

You can't answer them on a technical basis, because you are copy/paste poster.

 

[Sinan]

ASELSAN and BAYKAR dont know how sensor fusion works but Kubilay, Arda and Feridun Taştan knows better

Go tell these things to teenagers on YouTube.

I could share the same information with my 200,000 followers on YouTube.

Nobody said that, you just made that up.

Aselsan and Baykar doesn't have an obligation on how the sensor fusion works to public. They only present their systems and that's how it should be.

Anlamıyorsan Türkçe yazıyım.

 

[MMM-E]

No, he is not bad-mouthing. He is giving his opinion. Because the things we are trying to make is not easy as you claim. He is giving his opinion let's say on Galium.

I am not talking about Galium production
I am talking about lies ( Turkiye lacks advanced electronic/avionic industry )


This is not an opinon ; it's a complete lie and bad mounting, disparagement of the Turkish defense industry.

Türkiye is one of the few NATO countries that produces gallium-based AESA Radars

MURAD-100A : It was integrated into KIZILELMA , AKINCI , F-16
ALP-300G/310G : for SIPER Air Defense System
CENK-400N : ISTIF class Frigate
also CAFRAD Radar for the TF-2000 Destroyer

Turkiye has developed TOYGUN EOTS , KARAT IRST , FEWS EW suite , TULGAR HMDS , YILDIRIM DIRCM and many more for the KAAN project

I always giving detailed info what about Turkish Defense Industry but with their tiny brains, they still continue to lie for anti-Turkiye propaganda

 

[MMM-E]

Nobody said that, you just made that up.

Aselsan and Baykar doesn't have an obligation on how the sensor fusion works to public. They only present their systems and that's how it should be.

Anlamıyorsan Türkçe yazıyım.

You're the one making things up... you spoke as Turkiye couldn't do sensor fusion.

I showed you with official sources that even BAYKAR has done it.

Sen anlamadıgına göre tekrar yazayım
Benim onlardan ögrenecegim bilgi yok .. gitsinler Youtube da sivilceli ergenlere anlatsınlar

 

[Sinan]

You're the one making things up... you spoke as Turkiye couldn't do sensor fusion.

I showed you with official sources that even BAYKAR has done it.

Sen anlamadıgına göre tekrar yazayım
Benim onlardan ögrenecegim bilgi yok .. gitsinler Youtube da sivilceli ergenlere anlatsınlar

No, i didn't say Türkiye can't make sensor fusion. You are making things up. My posts are up there. Show me my post where i said that.

Yapamaz demekle, yapımı çok zor demek arasında çok büyük bir fark var. Kimse de zaten yapamaz demedi, neyi anlamıyosun?

 

[eIsQengiz]

The audacity of a anonymous copy/paste poster.

You can say that you can jump 200 meters, it doesn't change the reality. Like you can say that you have contructed the millenium falcon in your garage and conquer the world.

Can you understand me, what you say has zero value why because you can't back your posts.

The characterization of post as "copy" is not entirely supported. Their posts are not merely repetitive. Some content may refer to existing discussions, as is common in these forums.

A verified analyst in Türkiye.

MMME posts are based on truly factual information obtained from primary sources.

They believe in the courage of Turks in defending their nation.

People dissent on comparison and explanation.

Discussions are often informal. They may contain speculation or secondary explanations.

This is common in interest groups. They often resort to fabrications.

Our style of speaking can sometimes be emotional. This is common in polarized environments.

However, this stems not from a lack of novelty, but from a reflection of the context. Their explanations regarding the Steel Dome batteries accurately laid out the requirements. These largely coincide with those subsequently verified and published by the SSB in Türkiye. This shows that he is not just an ordinary commentator, but an innovative and intelligent person.

Overall, the resulting conclusion can best be described as a defensive view. A controversial and context-driven perspective. Ish.

 

[Sinan]

I am not talking about Galium production
I am talking about lies ( Turkiye lacks advanced electronic/avionic industry )


This is not an opinon ; it's a complete lie and bad mounting, disparagement of the Turkish defense industry.

Türkiye is one of the few NATO countries that produces gallium-based AESA Radars

MURAD-100A : It was integrated into KIZILELMA , AKINCI , F-16
ALP-300G/310G : for SIPER Air Defense System
CENK-400N : ISTIF class Frigate
also CAFRAD Radar for the TF-2000 Destroyer

Turkiye has developed TOYGUN EOTS , KARAT IRST , FEWS EW suite , TULGAR HMDS , YILDIRIM DIRCM and many more for the KAAN project

I always giving detailed info what about Turkish Defense Industry but with their tiny brains, they still continue to lie for anti-Turkiye propaganda

No you are not giving detailed info, you don't even know what detailed info looks like. You have no idea because you all you do is copy/paste.

There are people out there, who are giving detailed info but you even refuse to learn.

You have no idea not the slightest...what sensor fusion means and how it works. On top of it despite all ignorance you claim, it's a piece of cake.

 

[Sinan]

A verified analyst in Türkiye.

How do you even verify i person that who you don't know his name albeit his achivements. Lol.

 

[MMM-E]

No, i didn't say Türkiye can't make sensor fusion. You are making things up. My posts are up there. Show me my post where i said that.

Yapamaz demekle, yapımı çok zor demek arasında çok büyük bir fark var. Kimse de zaten yapamaz demedi, neyi anlamıyosun?

And I didn't say sensor fusion is so easy

that was my post 1,703


They underestimate and mock Türkiye because they have no idea what ASELSAN is.

Nobody says Sensor fusion is so easy.
( only USA , France , Turkiye , The UK can do it in NATO )

And Turkish ASELSAN is one of leading companies in the world to make it

The important thing is that we developed all these components domestically.
-- MURAD AESA Radar
-- TOYGUN EOTS
-- KARAT IRST
-- FEWS EW Suite
-- TULGAR HMDS

All Systems integrated into Platforms, not just on paper.

We will complete this with software integration using millions of lines of code
They lead the sensor fusion software architecture with AI algorithms

 

[hodor]

No one believed Türkiye could develop all the components for the KAAN. I think it’s completely normal that people had their doubts.

Today, very few people believe we can develop the TF35000, but we will have built one of the top three engines in the world by the mid2030s. People laugh because these things seem impossible to believe. I understand where they are coming from, and I don't think there is any need to insult anyone.