The Dalai Lama's Flight to India

[Master Chief]

If Tibet was not an independent entity, then how was Tibeten government able to travel to India and sign agreement with the British on boundary demarcation?

India accepts both Macmohan and Durand lines. How about Pakistan?

So travelling on a camel from Tibet to India is the definition of national sovereignty now?? What nonsense is this!

India "accepts the Durand Line"?? Does Kabul know of this position? Do you speak for the Indian government?

Amir Abdur Rehman himself stated in his memoirs that “it was necessary to mark out the boundaries between my dominions & those of my neighbours, for the safety & protection of my kingdom.”

Where is the "duress" here? Please point it out to me. It seems to me that he was being perfectly pragmatic at the time and was happy to make arrangements on behalf of future generations of Afghans.

There were firther ratifications. Article 5 of the Rawalpindi treaty after the third Anglo-Afghan War said that "the Afghan government accepts the Indo-Afghan frontier accepted by the late Amir [under the Durand line agreement]". This position was further reiterated in the Kabul Treaty and a series of letters between Britain and the Afghan government in the 1930s.

Where is the current talib government's actual locus standi on their present day opinions?

Delhi has chosen a poor ally, who will simply embarrass you for no tangible benefit.

 

[Master Chief]

Afghanistan might have accepted the agreement back then after loosing the war to British.

But they certainly do dispute the agreement now as being coerced into signing the agreement.

Same as how China disputes it now.

Even though China did not control Tibet, when Tibetan government signed the Macmohan line border demarcation agreement.

It all comes down to the same the thing either both the border demarcation agreement that British signed are valid or both are not.
What is Pakistan's position on it?

You can not have your cake and eat it too.

Read my post and don't lose too much sleep on it old bean.

Once again, Kabul ACCEPTED the Durand Line, which you have now acknowledged yourself. Beijing never accepted the McMahon Line. You attempted to label Beijing as "inconsistent" but it is PERFECTLY consistent to (a) accept a boundary ratified by both belligerent parties while (b) denying a boundary that is NOT ratified by both belligerent parties. You simply don't understand or acknowledge the flaw in your logic.

 

[Jaeger]

So travelling on a camel from Tibet to India is the definition of national sovereignty now?? What nonsense is this!

India "accepts the Durand Line"?? Does Kabul know of this position? Do you speak for the Indian government?

Amir Abdur Rehman himself stated in his memoirs that “it was necessary to mark out the boundaries between my dominions & those of my neighbours, for the safety & protection of my kingdom.”

Where is the "duress" here? Please point it out to me. It seems to me that he was being perfectly pragmatic at the time and was happy to make arrangements on behalf of future generations of Afghans.

There were firther ratifications. Article 5 of the Rawalpindi treaty after the third Anglo-Afghan War said that "the Afghan government accepts the Indo-Afghan frontier accepted by the late Amir [under the Durand line agreement]". This position was further reiterated in the Kabul Treaty and a series of letters between Britain and the Afghan government in the 1930s.

Where is the current talib government's actual locus standi on their present day opinions?

Delhi has chosen a poor ally, who will simply embarrass you for no tangible benefit.

India is a successor state to British India and hence accepts all the boundary demarcation agreements that British signed.
That is India's official position.

Please tell what is Pakistan's official position on all the boundary demarcation agreements that British have signed?

 

[Master Chief]

India is a successor state to British India and hence accepts all the boundary demarcation agreements that British signed.
That is India's official position.

Please tell what is Pakistan's official position on all the boundary demarcation agreements that British have signed?

More b.s. deflection from you. Pakistan passes judgement on matters pertaining to Pakistani borders, as that is our writ as a successor state to British India (and we inherit border agreements and arrangements pertinent to Pakistani territory). You pass judgement on your own borders! We don't have to agree with your judgements and you don't have to agree with ours. In fact, that is why there is a border dispute between Pakistan and India in case you did not notice.

It really is that simple!

 

[Musings]

India is a successor state to British India and hence accepts all the boundary demarcation agreements that British signed.
That is India's official position.

Please tell what is Pakistan's official position on all the boundary demarcation agreements that British have signed?

Look at the thread title and topic and look at your blabbering.

 

[Beijingwalker]

If Tibet was not an independent entity, then how was Tibeten government able to travel to India and sign agreement with the British on boundary demarcation?

India accepts both Macmohan and Durand lines. How about Pakistan?

Are you crazy? a rebel state can sign anything and every person can travel everywhere, but does it make it legal? If you rebel groups in your various state signed any agreements with some governments, does India think they are legal? Your logic is so messed up, the fact is that not a single government had ever recognized Tibet as an independent country, not even Britain and India.

 

[Beijingwalker]

India is a successor state to British India and hence accepts all the boundary demarcation agreements that British signed.

But China didn't sign, so we don't recognize them. the whole world knows what was a notorious colonial and imperial power British was.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Lol ..I am not even asking you about you Macmohan line.

I am asking you for China's official position on Durand line.

And marveling how your own logic is stumping you, because of your country's non consistent position.

I will tell you the stance of the Chinese government.

China is not a party to the border line between Pakistan and Afghanistan. We will not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, and at the same time, we oppose other countries interfering with a nation's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

The line drawn by the British illegally occupied Chinese territory, and China is the party concerned. If anyone can draw boundaries in other countries, then I don't mind erasing India from the Earth. Only a delusional country like India tries to use a line drawn by the British to occupy Chinese territory.

Indians claim to have the 'inheritance rights of the British colonizers'. Then, when the British Queen passed away, why was India not notified to inherit the position of the British King?

Since India has the 'inheritance rights of the British colonizers', it could fully wait to exercise its inheritance rights. Why does India need to rebel against British colonial rule?

According to your logic, India could completely request that the UK transfer a permanent seat on the Security Council. That would be India’s 'inheritance right'.

Go ahead, if the UK recognizes India’s 'inheritance right', then we can talk about this matter.

As a country, India has now become Britain's son and Israel's wife. So, is India male or female???

 

[Beijingwalker]

India is a successor state to British India and hence accepts all the boundary demarcation agreements that British signed.
That is India's official position.

There is a reason why every India's immediate neighbor hates India.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Why don't you share proof that Indian troops had crossed Aksai Chin and were patrolling in Chinese mainland as part of their forward policy.

Why you had ouposts north of the McMahon Line?

" It involved setting up military outposts behind Chinese positions, with 43 such posts positioned north of the disputed McMahon Line, which China did not recognize."

 

[Beijingwalker]

Unlike Sikkim, which was a widely recongnized sovereign state by the international community, Tibet has never been recognized as such by any governments.

 

[El Sidd]

Anyone can make any sweeping comment on the internet. Guess that's the nature of online bickering.

A rebel government in Himachal Pradesh is beyond online bickering.

 

[Beijingwalker]

I am glad India has stood by the Dalai Lama and helped preserve the legacy and memory of true Tibet.

What legacy? Giving your children this kind of " legacy education" even in 2026?

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[Proud Thamizhan]

What legacy? Giving your children this kind of " legacy education" even in 2026?

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you wouldn't know or understand. you and couple your previous generations have been reared and bred with CCP notions of herding

 

[东风夜放花千树]

you wouldn't know or understand. you and couple your previous generations have been reared and bred with CCP notions of herding

At least we can eat, live in a house, go to school, have a job, and afford to see a doctor.

You're different, the cesspool in India raised you, and then you run to America to try to turn America into another cesspool.