Three main world leaders will meet at Shenzen on November 19th

[BHAN85]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-11-13/trump-to-meet-with-xi-putin-nov-19-in-china-white-house-says

A real summit.

We are used to fake summits of vassals who take orders from same place.

But this time, each leader represent a true sovereign state.

 

[atmi_bum]

It's between China and the US. Russia's performance in Ukraine has made it less inconspicuous on the international stage. In fact, Russia can be argued to be a vassal of China.

 

[BHAN85]

It's between China and the US. Russia's performance in Ukraine has made it less inconspicuous on the international stage. In fact, Russia can be argued to be a vassal of China.

russia is dependent economically from China, that's all.

far from the unworthy nato shows of europe servility towards usa.

 

[retaxis]

It's between China and the US. Russia's performance in Ukraine has made it less inconspicuous on the international stage. In fact, Russia can be argued to be a vassal of China.

Russia had to fight entire economy of EU and sometimes US as well. Russia may be more reliant on China but China treats Russia as a great power not like UK or Germany.

 

[El Sidd]

Shenzhen is a nice place to meet this time of the year.

 

[ety]

Trump and maybe Putin too like to talk about carve up of the world and cap of nukes on the top list, but I am sure Xi is not interested in these topics.

 

[PK781]

anyone knows what the agenda would be this time?
whats the meeting for?

 

[Yommie]

The US hands the baton to China. The US peaked in 1984 and is past its heyday. The 21st century is China's century.

 

[RescueRanger]

anyone knows what the agenda would be this time?
whats the meeting for?

 

[atmi_bum]

russia is dependent economically from China, that's all.

far from the unworthy nato shows of europe servility towards usa.

Russia is completely dependent on China for everything. The relationship is asymmetrical, with China dictating the terms and Russia accepting them. Russia is no longer the military power people think it is. They have had over 500,000 casualties and billions in losses in equipment.

Perhaps Putin is there to make a deal with Trump on the sidelines. Putin doesn't want to be under China's thumb forever.

 

[atmi_bum]

Russia had to fight entire economy of EU and sometimes US as well. Russia may be more reliant on China but China treats Russia as a great power not like UK or Germany.

No, it doesn't. The relationship is totally asymmetrical in China's favor. You don't need to be a genius to see it.

 

[Yommie]

No, it doesn't. The relationship is totally asymmetrical in China's favor. You don't need to be a genius to see it.

Russia to China is Italy to Germany in WW2. It's a puppet state.

 

[ety]

Russia to China is Italy to Germany in WW2. It's a puppet state.

I wouldn't put that way. Russia is an independent country that is also a great power, otherwise Trump won't want to meet Putin in the three men summit.

 

[Yommie]

I wouldn't put that way. Russia is an independent country that is also a great power, otherwise Trump won't want to meet Putin in the three men summit.

It's a client state.

 

[ety]

It's a client state.

Well, it's true that Russia depends on China for many of its industrial products, but China also depends significantly on Russian energy supplies. It's beneficial both ways.