Trump says one officer shot at DC dinner, suspect in custody

[Hamartia Antidote]

2.) You tell me someone brought in a gun, and then passed through some sort of check point which there should be a metal detector, unless you are telling me there are no checkpoints before the room that he was in, then I will say, what if I brought in a bomb? You had checkpoints starting 100 yards + in the perimeter, because of anything that goes boom, we have a gate outside our FOB and a concrete barrier because of that, and you tell me they don't have those with the President? Then are you telling me the "gunman" wasn't killed outright, bringing a gun literally and physically outside where the president was, and he lives to tell the tale? Dude, this isn't 1865 or 1987. He had a gun, he ran = you shot him, and if the SS stopped him, and they shot, he should be dead.

Can you watch the video again please?

I think the video footage I posted is from the actual checkpoint in the hotel.. The guy avoided the dark colored metal detector at the top center left (the black “O” shaped thing) by running through a white archway one (left center) and then past everybody including the guy who pulled his gun out when he saw him running through the white security archway.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Since Trump took charge? TDS much? Trump didn't hire these they/them SS agents it was your democrat administration that decided overweight short girl boss needed to be SS agents.

Key Secret Service Scandals and Lapses:

• 2012 Colombia Prostitution Scandal: Several agents and personnel were investigated for bringing prostitutes to their hotel before a presidential visit, resulting in agents leaving.
• White House Security Breaches:
  • 2014 Intruder: Omar Gonzalez, a knife-wielding intruder, managed to enter the White House, highlighting a failure of agents to activate "crash boxes" (alarms).
  • 2009 Dinner Crashers: Tareq and Michaele Salahi were able to enter a state dinner without invitations.
  • 2011 Shooting: A suspect fired shots at the White House, but agents failed to recognize the severity of the incident initially.
  • Misconduct and Drinking:
    • 2014 Netherlands: Agents were sent home to sober up after one was found drunk and passed out in a hotel hallway.
    • 2011 Misuse of Resources: Investigations into agents, including alleged sexual assault, lewd behavior, and unauthorized database queries.
  • Operational Failures:
    • 2024 Trump Assassination Attempt: A final report detailed major lapses in security leading to the shooting at a rally, where a gunman was flagged as suspicious minutes before firing.
    • 2022 Impersonation Scandal: Two men were charged with impersonating federal agents and gifting items to Secret Service personnel, including members of the first family's security team.
    • Deleted Records: The agency was criticized for deleting text messages from around the time of the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

See them dates? Your boogie man the Orangeman had nothing to do with it.

Unbelievable that he thinks Trump suddenly downgraded the Secret Setvice capabilities

 

[j_hungary]

Since Trump took charge? TDS much? Trump didn't hire these they/them SS agents it was your democrat administration that decided overweight short girl boss needed to be SS agents.

Key Secret Service Scandals and Lapses:

• 2012 Colombia Prostitution Scandal: Several agents and personnel were investigated for bringing prostitutes to their hotel before a presidential visit, resulting in agents leaving.
• White House Security Breaches:
  • 2014 Intruder: Omar Gonzalez, a knife-wielding intruder, managed to enter the White House, highlighting a failure of agents to activate "crash boxes" (alarms).
  • 2009 Dinner Crashers: Tareq and Michaele Salahi were able to enter a state dinner without invitations.
  • 2011 Shooting: A suspect fired shots at the White House, but agents failed to recognize the severity of the incident initially.
  • Misconduct and Drinking:
    • 2014 Netherlands: Agents were sent home to sober up after one was found drunk and passed out in a hotel hallway.
    • 2011 Misuse of Resources: Investigations into agents, including alleged sexual assault, lewd behavior, and unauthorized database queries.
  • Operational Failures:
    • 2024 Trump Assassination Attempt: A final report detailed major lapses in security leading to the shooting at a rally, where a gunman was flagged as suspicious minutes before firing.
    • 2022 Impersonation Scandal: Two men were charged with impersonating federal agents and gifting items to Secret Service personnel, including members of the first family's security team.
    • Deleted Records: The agency was criticized for deleting text messages from around the time of the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

See them dates? Your boogie man the Orangeman had nothing to do with it.

Are you seriously stupid, or are you just pretending?

The Secret Service was PERSONALLY chosen by the President of the United States. Just because an agent who went to the academy during a Democrat's presidential years does not mean

1.) They are going to be a Close Protection Detail.
2.) They are going to be chosen by the President.

So when a Close Protection Detail FAILED, that's either the president or his/her Director of Secret Service failed because they would not have chosen the right people to protect the president

On the other hand, do you even know when the agents you mentioned in those incidents were hired? You won't be anywhere NEAR the president immediately after you graduate from the Secret Service Academy, which is usually a 4-year cycle of sitting in a field office before you are put into any type of protection team. Which means the agent that was presented in 2024 Butler Shooter had to have been hired by the Trump admin during the 2020 cycle. Average Protection Detail had 10 years plus experience. You don't get to be a rookie in the rank and then get assigned to protect the president.

So if you know nothing about Close Personal Protection, maybe it's time to shut up and listen to people who know?

 

[j_hungary]

Can you watch the video again please?

I think the video footage I posted is from the actual checkpoint in the hotel.. The guy avoided the dark colored metal detector at the top center left (the black “O” shaped thing) by running through a white archway one (left center) and then past everybody including the guy who pulled his gun out when he saw him running through the white security archway.

Dude, I watched the entire thing, but have you?

First of all, if you can "Avoid" the checkpoint and the metal detector, then what is the point of setting them up to begin with? Again, I don't know how much you know about Personal Protection. EVERYTHING is FUNNELED. A very big part of Personal Protection is to divert traffic, both foot traffic and automobile. You won't be able to allow someone to "by-pass" a checkpoint; this isn't some VIP who you can let go and let them by-pass the checkpoint (Which you shouldn't do it to begin with, by the way). This dude is a no-body, I don't even know if he had a "ticket" to actually got into the Correspondent Dinner, he should have been stopped a LONG TIME before he reached that "Check Point" he bypassed. Again, we know now he only had firearms this time. What if he is a suicide bomber? Trump and all the people in that building WILL BE DEAD.
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And again, you don't know if he was the only Threat, which means you need to quickly move on, you don't tackle the guy, and you don't chase him, you shot at him, and you better hit him.

 

[j_hungary]

Unbelievable that he thinks Trump suddenly downgraded the Secret Setvice capabilities

I didn't say that, I said the entire thing was suss. I don't care who hires those people, I care about how they do their job, and is it a fact that ALMOST ALL OF THE RECENT ASSASSINATIONS are aimed toward Trump? So either people like to kill him, like a lot, or his protection detail is not doing their job. I mean, how many plans to assassinate Biden, Obama, and Bush? So what if I actually say the protection quality dipped when Trump is president, when it is a fact that there were already 4 attempts on his life in just 2 years, and 2 of them, I will say Trump is lucky to be alive. Was it wrong?

And you seem to forget, Trump was also president in 2017, most of the intakes in his term back then would have made up the backbone of the Presidential Protection Service now.

Again, I want to ask you, how much do you know about the Secret Service and how to perform personnel protection?

 

[hasn2009]

Hopefully the investigators will go all the way to find the truth about this incident and make it public, unlike the previous incidents like Charlie Kirk's or previous Trump shootings for which we know nothing about.

In parallel universe.

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[j_hungary]

I just love people who comment on this post had nothing more than watching "Bodyguard" on TV as their "experience" and started questioning a dude with Special Forces training that worked both intelligence and operations in the military..........

That's just fun, isn't it?

 

[KingQamaR]

Many questions here for US secret service to answer for ?

The metal detectors are usually outside yet they were not and so close to the room.
Why???

How did he get the gun into the hotel?
Would the secret service not have checked the venue the day before, or that morning, for weapons and suspicious people?

 

[j_hungary]

Many questions here for US secret service to answer for ?

The metal detectors are usually outside yet they were not and so close to the room.
Why???

How did he get the gun into the hotel?
Would the secret service not have checked the venue the day before, or that morning, for weapons and suspicious people?

As I said, either the quality of the protection went downhill just for Trump, or people just like to kill him??

This is a mess, and I will say this isn't even a protection, this is just watch and see what happened..

 

[KingQamaR]

As I said, either the quality of the protection went downhill just for Trump, or people just like to kill him??

This is a mess, and I will say this isn't even a protection, this is just watch and see what happened..

I will go along with your first suggestion. This US admin is incompetent so it's likely the latter. Nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Their rampant incompetence are their things..

 

[j_hungary]

For those who are wondering how bad the Secret Service was in this

Take a look at this video, and I explain it by the "Personal Protection" POV

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At 0:40. This is NOT a security checkpoint; there was no one posted in front or beside the Metal Detector, and there was no diverted traffic, and that's supposed to be the Entrant of the Ball Room. If you had a cat, and your cat is spooked, and you try to catch it, you probably will do better than this Secret Service team (actually, they should be an SS team, but they are too bad at their job; I would doubt they are SS). I mean, since when is passing a "Metal Detector" in a security checkpoint optional? And no bollard or obstacle? Dude, one of those Hotel Coat Hangers would have been better than nothing.......... And you just let him run through it? Sure, it's so high tech that you can stop everything but just not when they're simply running pass, am I right? And that is when I assume they had other checkpoints outside this area, which would have been equally ineffective because that dude came up to this one outside the ballroom, and if they don't have any checkpoints, then, well, all I can say is you may as well lay out a banner and say "Welcome Suicide Bomber."

TSA Checkpoint



Ballroom Check Point



Can you see the difference? They should have let the TSA man those check point than the Secret Service....

At 0:47, the first shot is fired, and by 0:50, 4 shots have been heard. The first time the "Secret Service Agent" was next to the President is 0:57, so 10 seconds, and then that agent (I am assuming that they are SS Agents) is doing nothing but looking at the crowd until 1:06 when a uniform dude runs up to the president. After that, they actually push Trump down? 20 fricking seconds before they did something........Yes, you may say "Well, they may have a call saying 'Shot Fire" and it may come from the Agent themselves, but you don't know the situation, as in how many assailants were there and was the threat eliminated. You go pile up on him 5 seconds flat, so your principal will not get shot. They took their sweet ass time for it.

The first one is PLANNING FAILURE, failed to divert people, failed to stop separate people which is an overall planning error, and the second one is just bad protection.

 

[j_hungary]

I will go along with your first suggestion. This US admin is incompetent so it's likely the latter. Nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Their rampant incompetence are their things..

Well, I don't know. This is just funny.........I would say. And the fact is, they are all Trump, every one of these attempt was on him, so either there are so many people wanted to kill him and overwhelm the Secret Service so they had more slipped up or they aren't doing what they should have been doing with Trump, funny thing tho, this hasn't happened all that much to all previous President in the last 20 years..........the best we get to is this

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I mean, unless you don't allow shoes, this is bound to happen.........

So you will need to be the judge on that.

 

[SolarWarden]

Are you seriously stupid, or are you just pretending?

The Secret Service was PERSONALLY chosen by the President of the United States. Just because an agent who went to the academy during a Democrat's presidential years does not mean

1.) They are going to be a Close Protection Detail.
2.) They are going to be chosen by the President.

So when a Close Protection Detail FAILED, that's either the president or his/her Director of Secret Service failed because they would not have chosen the right people to protect the president

On the other hand, do you even know when the agents you mentioned in those incidents were hired? You won't be anywhere NEAR the president immediately after you graduate from the Secret Service Academy, which is usually a 4-year cycle of sitting in a field office before you are put into any type of protection team. Which means the agent that was presented in 2024 Butler Shooter had to have been hired by the Trump admin during the 2020 cycle. Average Protection Detail had 10 years plus experience. You don't get to be a rookie in the rank and then get assigned to protect the president.

So if you know nothing about Close Personal Protection, maybe it's time to shut up and listen to people who know?

You're not as clever as you think you are, bud. One incident and you make the claim the quality of SS has gone down since your Orangeman boogie man took charge. When you say stupid cht like that it makes folks in here think you suffer from TDS.

Now I agree SS quality has gone down but not because of one event that took place last night it started going down under Barry Obama when his administration was relaxing the high standards the SS. Barry's administration had eight years of relaxing the high standards hiring people who would have never made SS under previous standard. The list I posted or the SS scandals those are the ones that made mainstream headlines and it started under Barry's administration only to be made much worse under sleepy Joe that is where DEI went into overdrive in hiring Federal security forces.


-Information regarding the lowering of Secret Service hiring standards during the Obama administration is largely framed within the context of attempting to address severe, long-term staffing shortages and pressures to increase agency diversity, rather than an explicit policy to lower operational standards. However, these changes were often criticized as damaging to the agency's quality of personnel.

Key Context and Findings:

• Staffing Crisis and Pressure: The Secret Service faced a major "agency in crisis" scenario starting around 2011, with a sharp decline in personnel due to budget cuts (Budget Control Act of 2011), low morale, and high attrition.
• Hiring Challenges: Amidst these pressures, the agency struggled to meet recruitment targets for years, with some reports noting that hiring freezes in the 2010s contributed to long-term personnel gaps that lasted for years.
• Push for Diversity and Speed: Reports indicate that in attempts to fix the staffing shortages, officials aimed to speed up the slow, intensive hiring process—which could take over a year—by reducing the timeline for candidate assessments and background checks.
• Critics' Viewpoint: Some critics and veteran agents, including those commenting later on similar issues, argued that attempts to raise diversity quotas during various administrations—including the Obama era—resulted in less qualified candidates being hired or promoted, undermining the agency's merit-based traditions.
• Recruitment Changes: The Obama administration, through the Office of Personnel Management, did encourage broad federal hiring reforms to modernize recruitment and increase diversity.
• Focus on Training Improvements: While hiring processes were accelerated, officials frequently stated they were working to speed up hiring without reducing the rigorous training standards, a difficult balance given the high turnover and morale issues.

But sure blame your Orangeman boogie man for the quality of SS when this cht started during Barry's reign.

 

[SolarWarden]

I just love people who comment on this post had nothing more than watching "Bodyguard" on TV as their "experience" and started questioning a dude with Special Forces training that worked both intelligence and operations in the military..........

That's just fun, isn't it?

projecting much, eh?

 

[clutch]

The whole thing is very suspect tho. Is the shooter using a shotgun to shoot outside the ballroom? And he gets that gun in the perimeter and fires off 4 or 5 shots before getting "arrested."

First of all, you have to be the stupidest assassin to try to shoot someone outside the ballroom. If you can get in the perimeter with a shotgun, you can get in there or wait for Trump to come out for you to shoot him.

And then the SS didn't shoot the guy? And they just let him shoot outside 4 or 5 times? And then they evacuated Trump while the "imminent threat" was gone?

I am sorry but the whole thing sound suss as F. If I am letting rounds off outside the President, I am going to get shot, they are not going to just arrest me, it isn't firecracker I am letting it out, yes, stupid as it is to try to shoot outside the building, you don't know if you are SS that it is the only threat, I wouldn't arrest the guy, I will shoot the guy if I am a duty SS agent, because unless I know for sure, that's only 1 dumbass doing this, I am going to eliminate him and scan for other threats.

And Trump was sitting inside, like, as he said, "dishes come down." Dude, the first shot would have triggered SS response, you won't stay there for 4 or 5 shots + some waiting time before slowly being evac'ed........

Sounds more like a Charlie Kirk setup. The Juice are probably not happy with Trump.