TTP wrap a man in Pakistan's flag and cut his head off

[Distant_Observer]

So tell me how you plan to subdue 40 million pashtuns in a province where practically everyone is armed to the teeth with a 600000 strong army which has a substantial number of pashtuns in it by the way


Army has not been able to subdue 30000 strong Taliban and you dream of crushing an entire community

Just cut the head of the snake in Afghanistan and they will fall in line. There is a relationship of extraction here. They take from Pakistani Pakhtuns and made them like it. They even take their little girls as sex slaves and human shields.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Your hypocrisy continues.
Your beloved military continues to make these small but cute mistakes again and over again - has developed some kind of habit of stealing the public mandate across the provincial & Federal institutions and this is the sole reason why the whole nation is in such a shit hole

My friends from Balochistan told me these so called sardars are popped up and nurtured by military - i never believed them until saw this mfkry first hand in Punjab.

You're comparing different provinces with completely different contexts.

In Balochistan this happens because sardars are a natural authority in their social hierarchy so as an attempt to curb separatism, you co-opt their leaders. A very common tactic globally if you search it up. The "public mandate" alternative in Balochistan is separatists usually.

In Punjab, the sole reason was to curb PTIs power who the military had a falling out with due to internal politics like differences on foreign policy and terrorism.

In principle, the military curving sociopolitico-economic development of the country is a serious issue. They need to let young aspiring leaders wanting reforms to take over and I fully agree. But looking at context shows you Balochistan and Punjab are two different cases. And the Punjab example is directly cause of falling out with PTI.

 

[Samlee]

Just cut the head of the snake in Afghanistan and they will fall in line. There is a relationship of extraction here. They take from Pakistani Pakhtuns and made them like it. They even take their little girls as sex slaves and human shields.

Sure!! they have been trying to cut the head off for 20 years only for their headless bodies to return

 

[Distant_Observer]

Sure they have been trying to cut the head off for 20 years only for their headless bodies to return

They haven't. That's the problem.

If they did try the fauj would have entered Afghanistan in 2005 and completely crushed Afghan eastern front and established a buffer zone.

Should have listened to Musharraf.

 

[Samlee]

They haven't. That's the problem.

If they did try the fauj would have entered Afghanistan in 2005 and completely crushed Afghan eastern front and established a buffer zone.

Should have listened to Musharraf.

Musharraf and Zia are the ones who got us tangled in this mess in the first place


Please tell me when you enter so I can get my popcorn ready

 

[MS Sandhu]

In Punjab, the sole reason was to curb PTIs power

And what is that PTI 's Power in Punjab?
It's the people of Punjab who were killed and jailed mercilessly by this cruel institution.
And yet you expect us to support it and when we speak up - you call us the leftists & what not.

 

[hussain0216]

This needs an iron leader. Current lot are no good.

I completely agree, it's sickening watching the same twats, decade after decade

I was young when I weñt to Pakistan in the 80s and 90s

I am now middle aged and STILL the same zardaris, Nawaz, Bhutto, Mulla diesel etc etc

The problem is alternative leaders have not been allowed to develop

But the biggest problem is our people, they don't understand democracy.
The don't understand that the POWER the people have is also a responsibility to understand the issues and act with responsibility towards themselves, local and national issues
The electorate must not be soo stupid that it can be manipulated by local or international propaganda

Our people look for political messiahs who offer them salvation for lifelong loyalty

For the moment their is NO point in removing bhuttos or sharifs or Khans, because it will just cause instability

Unless we want to back total military dictatorship and a culling of all existing politicians


We need to understand the people are idiots
They will continue to support the leaders and parties REGARDLESS of their ineptitude

So let's just get all the leaders and parties involved
Get Khan out of prison and get him involved too

The make a national unity technocrat government
To rule for a indefinite amount of time to enforce change in Pakistan, get rid of the political ranglings and chaotic elections every 4 years


Hasina in Bangladesh was a sold out bitch,
But she bought stability through autocratic rule and it bought change a d stability to bangla

 

[hussain0216]

Sure!! they have been trying to cut the head off for 20 years only for their headless bodies to return

On the contrary

Afghanistan and Afghans have been defeated MULTIPLE TIMES in multiple battles

The entire state collapsed

Just because afghans keep committing terrorism doesn't meant they haven't lost and lost big
For all the terrorism they commit we have hammered afghans

 

[Watandar]

This TTP was on the ropes and forced to flee to Afghanistan at the end of Raheel Sharif tenure. Its why I respect the guy. Why is TTP now resurgent ? Why wont establishment drop its failed policies of hunting with the hounds while running with the hares ?

 

[Distant_Observer]

This TTP was on the ropes and forced to flee to Afghanistan at the end of Raheel Sharif tenure. Its why I respect the guy. Why is TTP now resurgent ? Why wont establishment drop its failed policies of hunting with the hounds while running with the hares ?

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yeah and Mr Taliban Khan was brought to power by Establishment. So what we have is first enormous effort is expended in Kiyani and Raheel tenures to cut down TTP to size and expel it from Pakistan, and then Bajwa and Faiz Hameed ruin it all and give TTP space to come back. Musharraf the clown also made similar blunders when he allowed TTP and linked militias space to grow in FATA/Baluchistan in 2000s. Then ordinary public in Pakistan blames Pakhtuns and Baloch for being traitors.

 

[Starlord]

On the contrary

Afghanistan and Afghans have been defeated MULTIPLE TIMES in multiple battles

The entire state collapsed

Just because afghans keep committing terrorism doesn't meant they have lost and lost big
For all the terrorism they commit we have hammered afghans

This fake mantra that Pashtoon/Afghans never been defeated, is what made these idiots more violent and they brag about it, Afghanistan was bombed by America with no tomorrow, if it wasn't for Pakistan their leadership would've been blown to bits, America was holding back a lot, just look what Israel did to Gaza and than multiple it by 100x is what America could do to these Afghanis or their cousins in KPK, and no one can stop them, its the state of Pakistan that help these savages from both sides of border and give them identity which they so passionately despise, same issue with Balochi people, their auqaat is nothing, people know them because of Pakistan and only Pakistan... these Tribal morons are stupid and this mentality is passed on by their elders who are even more of a barbaric than their new generations.

 

[Samlee]

On the contrary

Afghanistan and Afghans have been defeated MULTIPLE TIMES in multiple battles

The entire state collapsed

Just because afghans keep committing terrorism doesn't meant they haven't lost and lost big
For all the terrorism they commit we have hammered afghans

Ok so has ttp gone??Has BLA gone??Au contraire entire areas of Balochistan are out of government control,TTP flags are flying in checkpoints in DI Khan.

And you wise guys seem to think pashtuns are like that lahori chacha who you can kidnap and torture into submission

 

[SteppeWolff]

It's you that's the biggest harami bro
Not the locals.
We have zero reason to side with the state & its cruel Machinary.

Indeed. But TTP are no better. Judging by your name "Sandhu", you are a Punjabi Jutt, and to those ethnocentric dogs, you are fair game.

 

[SteppeWolff]

True, but what I'm saying is most of these PTI supporters have turned manic, they've become mentally unstable.

They have all the rights to be, considering what they have been put through by the state machinery.