Turkey Greece Relations and Maritime Disputes

Like Greeks and Arabs and Greeks and Turks.
Not really.
I mean Greeks are europeans and jews like to be identified as europeans or an extension of western civilization, so why not europe or greece host them?
 
Not really.
I mean Greeks are europeans and jews like to be identified as europeans or an extension of western civilization, so why not europe or greece host them?

This Whole BS could have been avoided if they built Israel in Germany or in Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad. lol

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This Whole BS could have been avoided if they built Israel in Germany or in Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad. lol
Anywhere in europe is good, we had enough of jews and their genocides towards the REAL natives of the middle east, I think it's time for them to head to europe whether it's greece or germany or whatever as long as they will **** off from middle east.

they have been in constant wars with either egypt or iran or jordan or palestine or lebanon or syria etc.
 
Not really.
I mean Greeks are europeans and jews like to be identified as europeans or an extension of western civilization, so why not europe or greece host them?
Maybe because the whole point of them going to the Holy Land from the start was to establish Israel like they wanted?
 
Anywhere in europe is good, we had enough of jews and their genocides towards the REAL natives of the middle east, I think it's time for them to head to europe whether it's greece or germany or whatever as long as they will **** off from middle east.

they have been in constant wars with either egypt or iran or jordan or palestine or lebanon or syria etc.
While they've had their fair share of aggression and this whole thing started with them being given half of Palestine,let's take things from the start. Ok?

1948 Egypt attacks them among other Arabs
1967 Egypt prepares to attack them again,gets attacked first and smashed.
1973 Egypt attacks again

We often ignore the fact that both sides have their fair share of mistakes in this conflict.

For example,the PLO goes to Jordan,starts causing trouble and tries to dethrone the king.
Then PLO is sent to Lebanon,continues to attack Israelis,gets involved in Lebanese politics. That causes both Syrians and Israelis to invade Lebanon.

Arabs have been victims of this conflict,yet Arabs were often the ones who stirred the hornet's nest.

If anything,Jews should be living with you,not Greeks and Turks. We have enough problems of our own.
 
While they've had their fair share of aggression and this whole thing started with them being given half of Palestine,let's take things from the start. Ok?

1948 Egypt attacks them among other Arabs
1967 Egypt prepares to attack them again,gets attacked first and smashed.
1973 Egypt attacks again

We often ignore the fact that both sides have their fair share of mistakes in this conflict.

For example,the PLO goes to Jordan,starts causing trouble and tries to dethrone the king.
Then PLO is sent to Lebanon,continues to attack Israelis,gets involved in Lebanese politics. That causes both Syrians and Israelis to invade Lebanon.

Arabs have been victims of this conflict,yet Arabs were often the ones who stirred the hornet's nest.

If anything,Jews should be living with you,not Greeks and Turks. We have enough problems of our own.
This is quite the Zionist version of history. For starters you are leaving out the Nakba of 1948, which was the planned terrorizing , killing and expulsion of Palestinians from their land in 1948 by Zionist militias. That was what the newly formed Arab countries tried to stop in 1948 but failed. Then Israel teamed up with UK and France to attack Egypt in 1956. The 1967 attack was also planned by Israel for a long time and there was no Egyptian plan for war in 1967.

You mentioned PLO went to Jordan and Lebanon, sure but why was there a PLO in the first place ?

I agree Arabs have screwed up many times but the wars and violence in Mideast is entirely because of Israelis, who arrived from Europe after WW1 via the British colonizers.

Returning to the topic thread, Greeks had better watch out for land and homes they are selling to the Israelis, lest they end up like the Palestinians.
 
Maybe because the whole point of them going to the Holy Land from the start was to establish Israel like they wanted?
let them establish their holy land in athena
 
While they've had their fair share of aggression and this whole thing started with them being given half of Palestine,let's take things from the start. Ok?

1948 Egypt attacks them among other Arabs
1967 Egypt prepares to attack them again,gets attacked first and smashed.
1973 Egypt attacks again

We often ignore the fact that both sides have their fair share of mistakes in this conflict.

For example,the PLO goes to Jordan,starts causing trouble and tries to dethrone the king.
Then PLO is sent to Lebanon,continues to attack Israelis,gets involved in Lebanese politics. That causes both Syrians and Israelis to invade Lebanon.

Arabs have been victims of this conflict,yet Arabs were often the ones who stirred the hornet's nest.

If anything,Jews should be living with you,not Greeks and Turks. We have enough problems of our own.
we attack them because they DON'T belong here (they even put bombs and destroyed many buildings in 50s in Egypt that belongs to american and english people just to cause problems to Egypt , it's called lavon scandals)



I'm talking to a greek whose own ppl sent death squad (Greek Volunteer Guard) to kill muslims in Bosnia.
 
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For starters you are leaving out the Nakba of 1948, which was the planned terrorizing , killing and expulsion of Palestinians from their land in 1948 by Zionist militias. That was what the newly formed Arab countries tried to stop in 1948 but failed. Then Israel teamed up with UK and France to attack Egypt in 1956. The 1967 attack was also planned by Israel for a long time and there was no Egyptian plan for war in 1967.

You mentioned PLO went to Jordan and Lebanon, sure but why was there a PLO in the first place ?

I agree Arabs have screwed up many times but the wars and violence in Mideast is entirely because of Israelis, who arrived from Europe after WW1 via the British colonizers.
That's why I said both are responsible in this conflict. Jews were given half of Palestine by the UN,then Arabs rose,there was a war,the Jews did the Naqba,they won the war. The PLO started a guerilla war,then became a problem to every country it was sent to. It's history,
these are facts. Arabs tried numerous times to destroy the Israelis,they failed and here we are today 🤷‍♂️

I'm talking to a greek whose own ppl sent death squad (Greek Volunteer Guard) to kill muslims in Bosnia.
You're awfully ignorant and shouldn't be spitting just nonsense. The GVG never took part in any atrocities in Bosnia. The Greeks who went there as volunteers,went to defend fellow Orthodox Christian Serbs,not to kill or pillage. On the contrary,the thousands of mujahedin who volunteered on the other side,went on to behead and execute POWs and civilians and brag about as taking part in "holy war".

we attack them because they DON'T belong here
Well you did attack them the first time and you lost. And you kept fighting them. See it from their side for once: They were trying to establish a State(back then it was just that)
and Arabs kept trying to destroy that State. Now,I don't blame the Palestinians,they masters of the land in majority and suddenly were losing more than half of it with the partition. But if you see it from the Jewish point of view,the Arabs kept attacking them.
That's how they see it,that's how you see it. And they have no place in Greece nor Turkey,they themselves want to be in what they believe is their ancestral homeland,so that's your problem actually as a misry. Don't say "let them establish their holy land in Athena". For them,that's not the issue,if that was the issue they would have stayed in Europe,in America,in the USSR. It's all about what they perceive their historical and biblical homeland.
 
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People are retarded. I heard they let them go afterwards? Or something.

The quote on such flags is usually "Orthodoxy or Death". Like Freedom or Death. You know,in that context.
 
US Ambassador to Turkiye, Tom Barrack:

“I think you’ll see the S-400 issue resolved soon.

From my boss’s point of view, Turkiye’s acceptance into the F-35 program is not a problem.

Greece has S-300s and F-35s.

So the Greece-Turkiye issue is another historical issue that I wouldn’t even dare to enter Mykonos for fear they would ban me from ever going there again.”


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The question on S-400s… For those of you who don’t know, Türkiye, after the coup, bought a Russian defense system.

There was a variance in opinion—were we not willing to sell them Patriots, or could they not buy Patriots, but they bought an S-400 system.

At the time, Türkiye was also the second-largest NATO ally. This is huge. When you think of what that means and what Türkiye is doing to protect Europe, it’s incredible.

They wanted to contribute to the F-35 jet program and, as a matter of fact, were a partner in manufacturing fuselages. When they bought the S-400, Congress then imposed sanctions.

Sanctions… in my humble opinion… they don’t work. The sanctioned country becomes so smart, so ingenious, they figure out ways around them. They went off the F-35 system.


President Trump and President Erdogan… sat down.Halkbank is now fine. F-16s — renegotiating again. The alliance… is being rebuilt.

I think you’re going to see this S-400 situation solved soon. From my boss’s point of view, acceptance into an F-35 program is fine.

Greece has S-300s and F-35s. So, that the the Greece-Türkiye issue is you know, another historic issue.
 
“I think you’ll see the S-400 issue resolved soon.

From my boss’s point of view, Turkiye’s acceptance into the F-35 program is not a problem.

Greece has S-300s and F-35s.

So the Greece-Turkiye issue is another historical issue that I wouldn’t even dare to enter Mykonos for fear they would ban me from ever going there again.”
I just saw this on TV.

It's too bad someone didn't explain to Mr.Barrack how Greeced ended up with S-300s in the first place.

Overall,I see that Tom Barrack is more Turkish than the Turks themselves. One could say he fights for Turkish interests more than he does for American ones.
 
Overall,I see that Tom Barrack is more Turkish than the Turks themselves. One could say he fights for Turkish interests more than he does for American ones.

American interests = to make money from the sale of 100 F-35s to Turkiye
and to work with NATO ally Turkiye in Syria , Libya , Somalia , Caucasus , Balkans , in the Black Sea , in the Eastern Mediterranean, in central Asia and in the middle East

instead of useless Greek interests

Joe Bidenopoulos: "I am an honorary Greek"
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