Foinikas
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There were Sunnis in the Army and the government,yet people are like "Alawite sect"
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Foinikas
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Why doesn't anyone mention how the Muslim Brotherhood actually started this by terrorist acts?
UKBengali
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The old divide and conquer crap that Zio-US US feeds the Sunnis in ME and they clap while they are made even more slaves and killed more in mass.
So many Muslims are not aware that Turkey is their Muslim "henchman" in the region. It is used to deceive the masses that of course it must have their best interests on side.
Muslim country in Nato.
hyperman
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So many Muslims are not aware that Turkey is their Muslim "henchman" in the region. It is used to deceive the masses that of course it must have their best interests on side.
Muslim country in Nato.
If thats true why do these nutbag neocons treat Turkey as a boogeyman. lol
hyperman
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The old divide and conquer crap that Zio-US US feeds the Sunnis in ME and they clap while they are made even more slaves and killed more in mass.
So many Muslims are not aware that Turkey is their Muslim "henchman" in the region. It is used to deceive the masses that of course it must have their best interests on side.
Muslim country in Nato.
Its cute he likes your tweet here, then he will go into a different setting and paint Turkey as an "Islamist" "expansionist" threat to Europe, to get the Frenchies, Dutch, Germany, etc. on his side.
Schrodinger's Turkey, Undermining "European Values" and "Western interests" while Also being a "Western Henchmen".
I wish the Turkey haters from both factions would come together and decide on a narrative, it can't be both. Either Turkey is a Henchmen for the West, or Turkey is an enemy of the west.
I guess they will throw the kitchen sink, to see what sticks, in bashing Turkey. lol
UKBengali
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It's not about him but Turkey always undermining any resistance against Zio-US.
Whether by accident or design, Turkish interests always seem to be that of the Zio-US.
hyperman
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You have a one tracked mind of Iran and Russia on one side anyone that runs counter to that as "working for the Zionists".
There is ample evidence and even commentary from Israeli commentators, that eludes to a very different reality. Its not black and white. You don't know the history of Assad and Israel outside of surface level understanding, nor do you seem to be aware of the other smaller elements that have been taking place with regards to the Iran, Russia Assad Dynamics.
Your assesment is that Iran, Russia, Assad, are all besties with no conflicts and they are all ride or die against "the Zionists".
When reality is a lot more complicated, and doesn't neatly fit in exactly like some jigsaw puzzle. .
Its not a very sophisticated and nuanced analysis.
UKBengali
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Not sure how you read my mind that Iran-Syria-Assad were all aligned 100% in their motivation and interests.
What counts is that all 3 were a pain for the Zio-US in ME. Their motivations are not that important.
1. Russia acted as some sort of deterrent with its bases and supplying of S-300 and Buk systems. They did not stop Zionist SOW but(along with Iranian air defences) they made sure that the Zionists could not drop bombs on Assad's head like they can now with Jolani.
2. Iran wanted to keep its landlink with Hezbollah, which was fighting the entity for over a year in support of Gaza.
3. Assad - he allowed weapons to flow to Hezbollah which is better than all other Muslim neighbours of the Zionist entity.
Now Turkey has come in and of course made things much better for Zio-US interests in ME. It would be better if it did not try to "help" and just did nothing.
hyperman
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But they weren't. Iran Yes, but Assad was an Asset, a known commodity which Israel had an understanding with for 50+ years. Israel backed Assad during the inter Baathist tensions with Saddam's Baath party. You don't know the history and nuances of the dynamics.
Assad was normalizing with the UAE and Saudi, you think he did that for free? lol the Saudi Embassy opened this year and the Houthi embassy closed? why would the "resistance" man betray a key part of the resistance? I thought they were besties?
Why did Assad deny several requests from Iran to expand its presence in Syria? they wanted to build bases in Damascus? I thought they were friends and part of the "resistance" why would Assad deny that? could it be that he was limiting Iran's role because of the talks between Israel and Assad facilitated by Russia?
Did it occur to you that Iran and Russia despite their cooperation in some areas, have competing and conflicting interests in another? ones that even jeopardize each other's interests in some cases?
Did you ever wonder why Israel was not sending weapons to Ukraine to help before the Oct 7 war? Why no? Iran was sending weapons to Russia, the US hates Russia and hates Iran. And Iran was helping Russia and Russia was helping Iran in some limited areas, So Israel should have sent weapons to Ukraine right? Zelensky(who is himself jewish btw and has praised Israel) was even asking for support, why was Israel so hostile to the proposal? to the point where they vetoed US weapons that have Israeli components to be sent?
Senators say Israel blocking transfer of US-owned Iron Dome batteries to Ukraine
Graham and Van Hollen say they're not asking Israel to offer its own air defense equipment to Kyiv, but to revoke veto barring the US from sending systems to Ukraine
www.timesofisrael.com
Arms deliveries to Ukraine that were blocked by Israel prior to February 2022
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Reconnaissance UAVs [Deal to purchase drones from Aeronautics cancelled by the Israeli government in 2014]
- Iron Dome SAM system [Request to purchase denied by the Israeli government before and since February 2022]
Arms deliveries to Ukraine that were blocked by Israel since February 2022
- Spike-MR/LR ATGM [Italian intention to donate Spike ATGMs to Ukraine announced in early March 2022. Vetoed by Israel]
- Spike-LR ATGM [Polish intention to donate Spike ATGMs to Ukraine announced in early March 2022. Vetoed by Israel]
- Spike-LR ATGM [German intention to donate Spike ATGMs to Ukraine announced in early March 2022. Vetoed by Israel]
- Spike-LR ATGM [U.S. request to allow Germany to donate Spike ATGMs to Ukraine denied by Israel in May 2022]
An Israeli-designed Forpost-R UCAV that now sees action against Ukrainian forces over Ukraine.
these would be perplexing question for people who don't know the dynamics of the relationship beyond surface level understanding.I have explained the different nuances 100x times already here, so I'm not going to bother. You have a binary simplistic view of the world, so anything that doesn't fit neatly into your box you either aren't aware of it, or you just choose to ignore it.
Sometimes in order to understand things, its important to not just look at how we ourselves observes and discuss things in our bubble, but also important to look at how the enemy observes us and how they think and discuss matters, in order to account for blind spots.
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