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qutbuddin aibak said:
Is AlJazera gonna report everything without sources. An explosion happened but it was not a strike. Israel didn´t claim it either.
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Israel doesn't claim things all the time. But in this case you might be right. Conflicting reports:


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qutbuddin aibak said:
They absolutely can respond and have the forces to start a war with if they want but it is not in there interest currently but if pushed enough they will have no option but to engage them conventionally. If there red lines are crossed they will fight Israel like directly attacking their forces...

If Israel was to cross the red line by targetting HTS, FSA forces, bases and installations it is red line crossed which Israel has not done yet
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To be clear, I don't see Israel crossing red lines yet. The point is that Israel will work to challenge the recovery process in Syria. In coming months/years. And Arabs/Turks should be prepared for that.

So far Israel seems afraid of upsetting Arabs/Turks and thus won't target these people or disrupt transition process. That's partially because they're still comfortable with US deployment in eastern Syria allowing for Kurdish groups to occupy half of it. If Trump withdraws US forces, they will get more aggressive and hostile.
 
Falcon29 said:
Israel doesn't claim things all the time. But in this case you might be right. Conflicting reports:


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To be clear, I don't see Israel crossing red lines yet. The point is that Israel will work to challenge the recovery process in Syria. In coming months/years. And Arabs/Turks should be prepared for that.

So far Israel seems afraid of upsetting Arabs/Turks and thus won't target these people or disrupt transition process. That's partially because they're still comfortable with US deployment in eastern Syria allowing for Kurdish groups to occupy half of it. If Trump withdraws US forces, they will get more aggressive and hostile.
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The US has already said they will wrap up and has informed the Kurds.

As for Israel I don´t see them crossing the red lines and become provocative post US exit and it would be the opposite.

I think after the ceasefire they will slow down right now they are desparate for any wins they can get because they just couldn´t put away Hamas which is frustating them. Hamas is too resilient they don´t know what to do.
 
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It is not Iran that is invading Syria, occupying Syria or boming Syria right now..

Iran has packed their bags and left Syria, only thing left from Iran is the Embassies.

It is Israel that is invading Syria, occupying Syria or boming Syria..

Just saying ...
 
Ali_Baba said:
It is not Iran that is invading Syria, occupying Syria or boming Syria right now..

Iran has packed their bags and left Syria, only thing left from Iran is the Embassies.

It is Israel that is invading Syria, occupying Syria or boming Syria..

Just saying ...
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There were a few people arrested around Homs that were Hezbollah fighters, or had Lebanese IDs, they were taking part in the Assadist holdouts in the clashes. That Iranian Mollah video from Syria is also there. Also Khamenei and the Iranian Foreign minister inciting and encouraging insurrection. There was also that Press TV A-hole talking about partnering with the PKK trying to start BS.

Thats what the statement is aimed at. I would advise the Iranians to stop being bitter and try to incite things, b/c two can play this game, you don't want Sunni Baloch separatists and Sunni Islamist Kurdish insurgents from Iran to come set up shop in Syria. B/c the Israelis and the American won't do anything against that, they might even encourage such things. This would serve no one's interests other than outside forces. So I would Advise those in the Iranian sphere to just get over what happened and accept it, and move on and establish cordial relations based of respect of soverignty, instead of trying to interfere in Syria out of bitterness or resentment or trying to think that somehow it benefits to have such interferences.

Iran has enough enemies with the US and Israel, it does not need more enemies in Turkey or Syria, by stirring things up out of resentment against them, and delusions of somehow this bringing them any benefit from such things.
 
hyperman said:
Oh most Certainly, not a single one of these wannabe "Lawrence of Kurdistan" wannabes should be allowed to go back to normal life, like its some sort of holiday trip, come to Turkey on a Turkish visa, then slip into Syria and joining a terrorist organization trying to harm turkey and aid an insurgency. This isn't gonna be like those IDF war criminals taking holiday in malibu and elsewhere after their terrorism. These guys are going to be treated like ISIS fighters. Let this be a lesson, you come stick your head where it doesn't belong and try to start BS in Turkey's neighborhood and inside Turkey. There will be consequences, no casual holiday adventure. Its something that you will be paying for a long time with your life.

Turkey is doing Europe and the west a Favor, these people with their militant training going back might try to export the Rojava revolution to Europe. Maybe take over a part of the rundown city for their own "anarchist communes", I've seen these guys in Greece in their own little areas, who knowns maybe they start making their own weapons and doing all sorts of BS when they get back to their "Anarchist communes".
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I'm just a bit confused as to you are you so obsessed with this. I mean...you're supposedly not a Turk and you live in USA. Supposedly. Before you say "why were you so fixed on Assad having to stay in power",it was for religion(protection of Greek Orthodox community in Syria)and geopolitical reasons,since Greece-Cyprus-Turkey-Syria are all connected. But you,I'm baffled. Why are you so passionate about it?
 
www.syriahr.com

Final hours in power | Al-Assad gave up everyone and his plane did not accommodate military commanders and senior officials - The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights

Bashar refused to deliver resignation speech and ordered dissolution of the army under pressure by Russian authorities
www.syriahr.com www.syriahr.com

Reliable SOHR sources have reported that Bashar refused to deliver the resignation speech following the successive developments in Syria, which started with taking control of Aleppo by the HTS-led Military Operations Administration, and after Moscow refused request by Al-Assad to establish a state in the Syrian coastline, where Moscow considered this request as a project to tear Syria apart.

SOHR sources have confirmed that the orders to kill Syrians civilians were issued by Bashar Al-Assad and under direct instructions by commanders of the military and security services.

I didn't come across this story until later, but as I suspected, this guy did indeed try to destroy the territorial integrity of Syria, rather than resign and let go of power. It was only the Russians(who I think negotiated with the Rebels to allow the use of the 2 bases on the coast) stark refusal to allow that, that the attempt failed. I suspect the only cooperation that he did give(the military cooperating with rebels) was with the Russian pressure, they probably threatened him with asylum rejection.

Guy was a gutless evil self serving coward to the very end.
 
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Ukrainian Foreign Minister in Syria. Crazy.
 
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hyperman said:
www.syriahr.com

Final hours in power | Al-Assad gave up everyone and his plane did not accommodate military commanders and senior officials - The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights

Bashar refused to deliver resignation speech and ordered dissolution of the army under pressure by Russian authorities
www.syriahr.com www.syriahr.com

Reliable SOHR sources have reported that Bashar refused to deliver the resignation speech following the successive developments in Syria, which started with taking control of Aleppo by the HTS-led Military Operations Administration, and after Moscow refused request by Al-Assad to establish a state in the Syrian coastline, where Moscow considered this request as a project to tear Syria apart.

SOHR sources have confirmed that the orders to kill Syrians civilians were issued by Bashar Al-Assad and under direct instructions by commanders of the military and security services.

I didn't come across this story until later, but as I suspected, this guy did indeed try to destroy the territorial integrity of Syria, rather than resign and let go of power. It was only the Russians(who I think negotiated with the Rebels to allow the use of the 2 bases on the coast) stark refusal to allow that, that the attempt failed. I suspect the only cooperation that he did give(the military cooperating with rebels) was with the Russian pressure, they probably threatened him with asylum rejection.

Guy was a gutless evil self serving coward to the very end.
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Wait,so...when SOHR accuses Turks and Turkish-backed militias of atrocities,it's not reliable,but when it accuses Assad it is? 🤔
 
Foinikas said:
SOHR has always been a bit dubious.
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Excellent. So you may not use them against SNA and others now as a source going forwards. b/c according to you they are dubious.

I on the other hand don't find them dubious, and I think there were some issues by some people in the SNA, I don't deny it unlike you and Assad.
 
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