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[Ali_Baba]

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So - it is all over it seems? All areas, except those occupied by Israel, are now under the control of the state ?

Getting hold of the oilfields is significant as far as economic regeneration goes.

 

[hyperman]

So - it is all over it seems? All areas, except those occupied by Israel, are now under the control of the state ?

Getting hold of the oilfields is significant as far as economic regeneration goes.

No not yet.

The current agreement hasn't been implemented yet.

The Hijri militia backed by israel still controls Suweida.

But for the most part if the agreement is implemented, then in theory it should be over in the north, Meaning all forces can now be concentrated on the south on the border with Israel. The consolidation might take several months.

 

[hyperman]

ensuring the privacy of Kurdish areas

Approval of a list of names nominated by SDF for appointment within the Syrian state

These two I'm still suspicious of, but lets see how it plays out.

The major elements are there though, like the border, oil, central governance(from the looks of it), management of the Al Hawl camp and other areas by the govt(taking away the leverage from the PKK), adding of people to security forces on an individual basis and based on vetting. local Security force under the ministry of interior.

 

[hyperman]

Until the Syrian Army enters Qamishli and Ain Al Arab, remain suspicious. lol

 

[Eşbah]

Crazy how the US just threw their 'allies' under the bus. To be honest, I never understood those people who genuinely believed Washington would pick a ragtag militia over the second largest standing military in NATO with influence in the Middle East, Africa, Balkans, Caucasus, Central Asia and the Mediterranean/Black Sea.

It just didn't add up for me.

I'm still not convinced, though, that the SDF base is going to accept the agreement simply because too many PKK elements are hidding among their ranks but I remain hopeful.

 

[hyperman]

Turkey should ask for Tabqa airbase. Its very strategic, centrally located, with a friendly demographic around and well placed in the center but still close enough to the Turkish border.

 

[Haz]

So - it is all over it seems? All areas, except those occupied by Israel, are now under the control of the state ?

Getting hold of the oilfields is significant as far as economic regeneration goes.

It's Rojover. Unless they **** around again, then we just finish off what we started a few hours ago. They were always a paper tiger.

 

[Foinikas]

Crazy how the US just threw their 'allies' under the bus. To be honest, I never understood those people who genuinely believed Washington would pick a ragtag militia over the second largest standing military in NATO with influence in the Middle East, Africa, Balkans, Caucasus, Central Asia and the Mediterranean/Black Sea.

It just didn't add up for me.

I'm still not convinced, though, that the SDF base is going to accept the agreement simply because too many PKK elements are hidding among their ranks but I remain hopeful.

Because the Cold War was over,Russia was poor and in disarray. There were new dynamics. China was still not as rich and powerful. USA invades Afghanistan,Iraq,Germany had reunified. New countries emerging.

 

[hyperman]

I'm still not convinced, though, that the SDF base is going to accept the agreement simply because too many PKK elements are hidding among their ranks but I remain hopeful.

The main element is that no one will be automatically integrated, but on an individual basis and with a background check, and all arms are in the hands of the State.

What Hakan Fidan said last year of all the foreign fighters leaving(which this deal covers) and all the high level PKK needing to leave(hasn't been fully clarified), lets see if its implemented.

 

[Haz]

These two I'm still suspicious of, but lets see how it plays out.

The major elements are there though, like the border, oil, central governance(from the looks of it), management of the Al Hawl camp and other areas by the govt(taking away the leverage from the PKK), adding of people to security forces on an individual basis and based on vetting. local Security force under the ministry of interior.

The great thing about those, is that they are so non-specific, we have complete discretion how to implement them. Thats the genius of this agreement imo. We never promised anything explicit, but they have to concede everything immediately, including their militia, the very basis of their power, and their quest for autonomy, and all the territory they had under control. This is a big win for united Syria if it gets implemented quickly.

 

[hyperman]

It just didn't add up for me.

A lot that the Washington does doesn't add up these days. Its mainly b/c the Zionist control has got so perverse where US interests are overruled by the Lobby for Zionist interests. John Mearsheimer has commented on this phenomena.

But as consolidated at their power has gotten at the top, on the lower level amongst people, the approval of the zionist entity is probably at its lowest, so eventually there will be a reckoning as the zionist project gets more and more zealous and the appetite of the common man for support wanes.

 

[Eşbah]

It's Rojover. Unless they **** around again, then we just finish off what we started a few hours ago. They were always a paper tiger.

There's already opposition among SDF sources. They claim the agreement is unilateral and not agreed by the SDF.

 

[Haz]

There's already opposition among SDF sources. They claim the agreement is unilateral and not agreed by the SDF.

I'm sure there is. But some will undoubtedly be in support, which divides an already weak group into a weaker one. Once they try something, then we can finish the job with the ones that don't honour the agreement. Should be easier and less bloody than continuing the current offensive either way, and still enforcing this deal at the end.

 

[hyperman]

There's already opposition among SDF sources. They claim the agreement is unilateral and not agreed by the SDF.

Lol, they are sabotaging their last hope.

 

[battalion25]

The great thing about those, is that they are so non-specific, we have complete discretion how to implement them. Thats the genius of this agreement imo. We never promised anything explicit, but they have to concede everything immediately, including their militia, the very basis of their power, and their quest for autonomy, and all the territory they had under control. This is a big win for united Syria if it gets implemented quickly.

This.

Because there was no other way around really plus with another 24 hours and all these territories would have anyways been with the Syrian gov´t.

Remember when Russia and SAA couldn´t open Eastern Ghouta, the way these Ghoutans fought is one of the greatest battles modern history to the point where Russia had to use chemical weapons. That is how you fight or go home