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[hyperman]

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@Ali_Baba Big news potentially. Still too early IMO, but it seems Saudi and Pakistan will step up and provide support to Turkey in Syria.

 

[Ali_Baba]

One of their dreams was to have a Kurdish State in order to have more control and allies in the area. And like you said about the oil routes,a Kurdish State in Eastern Syria would be pretty darn sweet for them. Imagine,a small buffer of Druze in Syria,a big buffer of Kurds(to be armed heavily)in the northeast. They'd have some allies there both in economy and militarily.

But they can't do much right now and especially when Trump's administration is full of backsies.

I would say that all the plans the Hexagon alliance had to "reshape" the middle east have failed, starting from Sindoor, to the attack on Lebanon, to the war in Iran. All part of the same conspiracy and all failed ( well, Partial success in Lebanon due the actions of the Lebanese governments help - but that is a different story ).

 

[Ali_Baba]

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@Ali_Baba Big news potentially. Still too early IMO, but it seems Saudi and Pakistan will step up and provide support to Turkey in Syria.

Interesting. As I have said before, the point of the Makkah Pact is to defend against Israel and the Greater Israel project and not Iran. I think Iran has finally cottoned onto it that judging by their statements.

We know that the Lebanese also visit Pakistan recently as well, so that is interesting too and as you say far too early, but a step in the right direction for peace in the region.

So, changes are afoot, and "The Abraham accords" are dead now it seems ...

 

[hyperman]

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[Eşbah]

Arabs, Westerners and especially Iranians will never understand this:

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Turkey is not in charge in Syria and our leaders don't even want to be in the driver's seat in Damascus. Ankara - unlike Riyadh or Tehran - will not foot the bill for the Syrians or any other Middle Eastern country.

 

[hyperman]

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Let the Zionists keep Howling and trying to lure Syria and Turkey into a provocation, the reality is something very different. People should not respond with Emotion and Ego, and do something that disrupts the positive momentum and give the zionists an opening to reverse the momentum in Washington.

Don't let a runway being bombed that can be rapidly repaired distract from the actual progress being made.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Syria is not really helping Turkiye in this at all right now in this aspect imho, from what I have seen so far.

Mr Ahmed al-Sharaa needs to get off that fence he is sitting on and his "hedging" and be more clear on what his vision is for Syria and how Turkiye and Turkish state military assistance is important in that. He does have a voice, and agency in that.

Syria needs to come out and state clearly that Turkish armed forces are in Syria at the invitation of the Government of Syria to rebuild Syria's armed forces to help Syria to protect itself, and interference by Israel in that is unacceptable and unwarranted? Point me somewhere where they have been this clear, I may have missed it etc.

I have not seen anything by the Syrian government state, or discuss or indicate this aspect at all.

 

[hyperman]

Syria is not really helping Turkiye in this at all right now in this aspect imho, from what I have seen so far.

Mr Ahmed al-Sharaa needs to get off that fence he is sitting on and his "hedging" and be more clear on what his vision is for Syria and how Turkiye and Turkish state military assistance is important in that. He does have a voice, and agency in that.

Syria needs to come out and state clearly that Turkish armed forces are in Syria at the invitation of the Government of Syria to rebuild Syria's armed forces to help Syria to protect itself, and interference by Israel in that is unacceptable and unwarranted? Point me somewhere where they have been this clear, I may have missed it etc.

I have not seen anything by the Syrian government state, or discuss or indicate this aspect at all.

There is no issue. He is keeping a low profile and thats fine. The work is happening beneath the surface. Turkish military officers have been meeting with Ahmad Al Sharra as well as Syrian military officials. We are seeing military equipment being transferred and capabilities being built. This is a long term process, from my own assessment of the situation, I'm content with the coordination and developments.

 

[Ali_Baba]

There is no issue. He is keeping a low profile and thats fine. The work is happening beneath the surface. Turkish military officers have been meeting with Ahmad Al Sharra as well as Syrian military officials. We are seeing military equipment being transferred and capabilities being built. This is a long term process, from my own assessment of the situation, I'm content with the coordination and developments.

Certainly, here in the UK, the subtle messaging when this is reported is that Israel is acting against a creeping invasion by Türkiye of Syria given that all the talking is done by Turkish officials and Israeli and none by Syria. It is not helping Türkiye case here, I will say that.

That affects how the public react, and therefore how politicians will react to it.

 

[HAIDER]

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@Ali_Baba Big news potentially. Still too early IMO, but it seems Saudi and Pakistan will step up and provide support to Turkey in Syria.

Bangladesh also planning to join.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Bangladesh also planning to join.

Pakistan should stop this. Bangladesh is a complete basket case when it comes to military matters and defense procurements. 20-30 years, and they have yet to fully commit to buying just a dozen jets for their airforce.

Bangladesh will be hangers on - and the door should be shut on them until they meet minimal standards for the size of their armed forces, budget allocation for defense procurements on a sustained basis etc...

In fact, there should be no further expansion of the pact until the founding members fix the core design issues of the pact. ie lack of spare military capability and commitments to the pact in terms of capability and funding levels, etc.

 

[Bharatah]

Erdogan at Harward university (in 2004): Turkey’s collaboration with America in the 2003 invasion of Iraq and help israel, Erdogan's speech from 2004:

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“Türkiye, Amerika Birleşik Devletlerinin Irak'ta başarılı olmasını samimiyet ile arzu etmektedir. Çok yönlü destek olmaktadır. İsrail devletinin yaşama hakkını kimsenin tehdit etmesine Türkiye razı olmayacak.”

"We desire from the bottom of our hearts that America succeeds in Iraq and is giving full support. If anyone threatens Israel's right to exist, Turkey will not tolerate it."

As we can see, Erdogan and Turkey works for NATO (as everyone knows) and is there to help Israel. After this statement, Erdogan visited Netanyahu several times, went to the Holocaust museum, etc. Today (decades later), Erdogan was ordered to implement the "scissors strategy" with Netanyahu, simulating a non-existent opposition, similar to "progressives vs. conservatives" in the US (where a single power plant controls everything).

NOTE: The objective of this is to replace Mulahs of Iran (the real adversary) for Erdogan and Syria in a "combined" conflict where Israel will win easily(like won easely in past in 6 days wars for exemple), because the heads of state of the enemies have made videos in the past saying they work to protect Israel (as we can see).

 

[hyperman]

Certainly, here in the UK, the subtle messaging when this is reported is that Israel is acting against a creeping invasion by Türkiye of Syria given that all the talking is done by Turkish officials and Israeli and none by Syria. It is not helping Türkiye case here, I will say that.

That affects how the public react, and therefore how politicians will react to it.

Nothing is going to change the zionist media narrative in the west. Syrian statements will not change anything in the coverage.