Turkey Syria - News & Updates

[UKBengali]

It just started in 2011 by crushing and shooting protesters and demolishing their heads with tanks.

Those Assadist who raped mothers in front of their kids, should just prevail? Like nothing happened?

Drinking camelpis is very bad for the brains.

Like I say none of your business as Syria is a sovereign nation.

If you thought Assad was committing genocide then go to UN General Assembly and have a motion passed.

 

[Foinikas]

And when a Alewite non-muslim dictator decides to crush the Syrians, we cant just stand at the sidelines. We intervene and topple him. And we will do it again and again and again till those swines fled.

When a Jewish non-muslim dictator decides to crush the Palestinians,you seem to enjoy watching from the sidelines.

 

[UKBengali]

When a Jewish non-muslim dictator decides to crush the Palestinians,you seem to enjoy watching from the sidelines.

Not just watching but facilitating with oil shipments.

Of course getting involved in Syrian Civil War was never about any moral reasons.

 

[hyperman]

Not just watching but facilitating with oil shipments.

Of course getting involved in Syrian Civil War was never about any moral reasons.

this oil shipment talking point needs to stop. Turkey has no control over it, its not Turkish oil and its sold to third party middle men who sell it to Israel. There is no effective way to stop it other than either banning all exports exports of Oil from Turkey, which is not reasonable.

Furthermore the people who use this talking point don't understand how the oil market works. Its elastic. There is no difference refusal of a single exporter to sell oil to another party makes. Why you may ask? b/c as long as production is not cut, the oil reroutes, b/c thats just how the oil markets work. as long as production is the same, when someone refuses to sell to one person and sells it instead to another, the excess oil that the other buyer was supposed to buy eventually gets bought by the person who you withheld it from.

Its just how the economy works. Unless you are buying it at a deeply undercut rate from a specific buyer, there is no difference.

Its the same reason why Russian oil continues to flow despite EU not buying Russian oil, b/c all the oil that was going to Asia from the Middle East started getting bought up by the Euros, but the Asians still needed oil, its not like the Middle east countries increased production(they have agreements via OPEC + Russia to keep it steady), so the Russians ended up selling it to Asia instead, namely China and India etc.

 

[UKBengali]

this oil shipment talking point needs to stop. Turkey has no control over it, its not Turkish oil and its sold to third party middle men who sell it to Israel. There is no effective way to stop it other than either banning all exports exports of Oil from Turkey, which is not reasonable.

Furthermore the people who use this talking point don't understand how the oil market works. Its elastic. There is no difference refusal of a single exporter to sell oil to another party makes. Why you may ask? b/c as long as production is not cut, the oil reroutes, b/c thats just how the oil markets work. as long as production is the same, when someone refuses to sell to one person and sells it instead to another, the excess oil that the other buyer was supposed to buy eventually gets bought by the person who you withheld it from.

Its just how the economy works. Unless you are buying it at a deeply undercut rate from a specific buyer, there is no difference.

Its the same reason why Russian oil continues to flow despite EU not buying Russian oil, b/c all the oil that was going to Asia from the Middle East started getting bought up by the Euros, but the Asians still needed oil, its not like the Middle east countries increased production(they have agreements via OPEC + Russia to keep it steady), so the Russians ended up selling it to Asia instead, namely China and India etc.

This stain on Turkey will be remembered for decades and maybe even centuries.

It is one of the defining events of this genocide, that has been faciliated by local Muslim countries. Without co-operation from Turks and some Arabs countries, logistically it would be almost impossible to genocide Gazans.

No one buys "international agreements" as Turkey should never have been a conduit to supply oil to the Zionist entity that usurps and occupies Palestine in the first place.

Sorry but when Turks or their supporters keep repeating that they care about "genocide" in Syria, they will be reminded as and when about Turkey facilitating an actual genocide in Gaza. ICC has already indicted the two arch Jewish terrorists Netanyahu and Gollant and only a matter of time till ICJ declares this to be a genocide.

We understand exactly how the "oil market works" and Turkey's willingless to enter into a devil's agreement to the only remaining colonial settler entity on this planet. You knew exactly what you were doing when you signed this agreement and no-one placed a gun on your head at the time.

Apparently the Zionist terrorist units have a "competition", in which of them can kill in cold blood the most Gazan civilians in a sector. This is the devil which has reincarnated itself on Earth.

Shameful that Turkey has sunk so low when it used to be a leading light of the Muslim world of the Ottoman era.

Now I am blunt here but your post warranted it. You should have not tried to defend the indefensible.

 

[Anatolia]

This stain on Turkey will be remembered for decades and maybe even centuries.

It is one of the defining events of this genocide, that has been faciliated by local Muslim countries. Without co-operation from Turks and some Arabs countries, logistically it would be almost impossible to genocide Gazans.

No one buys "international agreements" as Turkey should never have been a conduit to supply oil to the Zionist entity that usurps and occupies Palestine in the first place.

Sorry but when Turks or their supporters keep repeating that they care about "genocide" in Syria, they will be reminded as and when about Turkey facilitating an actual genocide in Gaza. ICC has already indicted the two arch Jewish terrorists Netanyahu and Gollant and only a matter of time till ICJ declares this to be a genocide.

We understand exactly how the "oil market works" and Turkey's willingless to enter into a devil's agreement to the only remaining colonial settler entity on this planet. You knew exactly what you were doing when you signed this agreement and no-one placed a gun on your head at the time.

Apparently the Zionist terrorist units have a "competition", in which of them can kill in cold blood the most Gazan civilians in a sector. This is the devil which has reincarnated itself on Earth.

Shameful that Turkey has sunk so low when it used to be a leading light of the Muslim world of the Ottoman era.

Now I am blunt here but your post warranted it. You should have not tried to defend the indefensible.

Why won't Palestinians just fight back against the Zionist? Why don't the Muslims do more to help? I keep asking this to hardcore muslims but never get an answer.

If Azeri want to sell oil to Israel thats their business. The world sees that the Muslim world does nothing for Palestinians and get laughed at. The shameful nations if you, not Turkiye, we're still trying to feed our own people thats the job of our leaders.

 

[hyperman]

Why won't Palestinians just fight back against the Zionist? Why don't the Muslims do more to help? I keep asking this to hardcore muslims but never get an answer.

If Azeri want to sell oil to Israel thats their business. The world sees that the Muslim world does nothing for Palestinians and get laughed at. The shameful nations if you, not Turkiye, we're still trying to feed our own people thats the job of our leaders.

Don't take this guy's bait. He is some shia guy doing his own politics, hiding behind Palestine, thats what they all do. They pretend to care more about Palestine than Palestinians. all these people do is create infighting. Most Palestinians support Turkey and have a positive image of Turkey and appreciate what Turkey has reasonably done with its limitations, as well as most Palestinians being Sunnis, generally support the Syrian Opposition against Assad. Syrians were the ones who were getting slaughtered before the Gaza war, Palestinians and everyone that have an ounce of empathy understands this fact, and this unreasonbility they want to feed up about how Syrians need to be slaughter by assad en masse, so "Palestine can be free". Its all BS, the Palestinians themselves understand thats an unreasonable outlook.

 

[Anatolia]

Don't take this guy's bait. He is some shia guy doing his own politics, hiding behind Palestine, thats what they all do. They pretend to care more about Palestine than Palestinians. all these people do is create infighting. Most Palestinians support Turkey and have a positive image of Turkey and appreciate what Turkey has reasonably done with its limitations, as well as most Palestinians being Sunnis, generally support the Syrian Opposition against Assad. Syrians were the ones who were getting slaughtered before the Gaza war, Palestinians and everyone that have an ounce of empathy understands this fact, and this unreasonbility they want to feed up about how Syrians need to be slaughter by assad en masse, so "Palestine can be free". Its all BS, the Palestinians themselves understand thats an unreasonable outlook.

Do you want to know whats crazy? If all the Muslims actually worked together the genocide on Palestinians wouldn't be happening. The Israelis would've stopped all atrocities and we'd have peace in ME. The Israelis are smart you have to give it to them, they got all Muslims killing each other

 

[hyperman]

Do you want to know whats crazy? If all the Muslims actually worked together the genocide on Palestinians wouldn't be happening. The Israelis would've stopped all atrocities and we'd have peace in ME. The Israelis are smart you have to give it to them, they got all Muslims killing each other

The Issue isn't muslims as much as its leadership. There is consensus amongst the Muslims, that Israel needs to be dealth with, that its a threat to the region with its expansion and ethnic cleansing and its demand that all the countries in the region are subservient to it and where its the Apex Predator, that lets them live in exchange for subservience.

The problem is the dictators appointed post WW1 and those of the regimes that followed, whose concern isn't the interests of the greater muslim world or even their own countries, but preserving their own rule and kleptocracy.

If you hold elections in Jordan, Egypt, Saudi, and even in the UAE(assuming UAE Arab citizens vote) they would all vote along similar lines and have similar outlooks.

but this will result in the closing of all US and European bases in the region and a general consolidation of the region, and thats a threat to Israel, so the Israelis will actively fight against any sort of sovereign movement in the region.

Their ideal is to destroy the region and turn every state and government into the PA, where they will appoint a Mahmoud Abbas to manage and pacify the population while they carry out land theft.

 

[Musings]

On topic guys

 

[Foinikas]

Why won't Palestinians just fight back against the Zionist? Why don't the Muslims do more to help? I keep asking this to hardcore muslims but never get an answer.

If Azeri want to sell oil to Israel thats their business. The world sees that the Muslim world does nothing for Palestinians and get laughed at. The shameful nations if you, not Turkiye, we're still trying to feed our own people thats the job of our leaders.

Because those "hardcore" Muslims who keep talking about Ummah and excusing all those barbarians and their groups in Syria,prefer to fight the Shia,the Alawi and the Sunnis who disagree with them. Just like those groups they tend to support online,they believe their biggest obligation is to fight the Shia and those not deemed as real Muslims by them.

 

[Foinikas]

@UKbengaliShia-Persiangay

Oh yes, go to the UN. It worked in Cyprus when the Greeks massacred the Turks (not).

If the PKK comes to our border, we intervene. If they want to create a artificial communist state next to our borders, we intervene. If they build tunnels on the border, we intervene. All this made Syria our business. Turkey is not Bangladesh.

You are far more naive than i thought. Could have to do with your colonial history of serving and begging.

What about the Turks who massacred Greeks? You tend to ignore that often.

Turkey has been looking for chances to invade and snatch land. And always calling it a "peace operation". Peace operation in Cyprus,grabbed about 40% of the land. Peace operation in Syria,grabbed big parts of northern Syria. Every time Turkey launches a peace operation,somehow people are forced to leave their homes.

 

[Anatolia]

The Issue isn't muslims as much as its leadership.

Dude, if the Muslims let these useless slaves to govern them , are they not also part of the problem?

There is consensus amongst the Muslims, that Israel needs to be dealth with

Not sure if I have the right word for it, but the Muslim do not actually want to confront Israel. Not saying its fear or maybe it's a little bit of that or just not enough patriotism/nationalism when t.You have to remember the Europeans invented their lands, what fighting did they have to do for Syria, Iraq and bunch of other made up "sovereign" states? Nothing is the answer, the British came and did everything for them. UKBengali and other Muslims like him will be happy if Assad returns back, Azeri Oil stop being sold. Kurdish/American oil sold instead to Israel. Palestinians still be slaughtered but its ok Syria is "sovereign" and Russia has a few bases.

 

[Ravenman]

What about the Turks who massacred Greeks? You tend to ignore that often.

Turkey has been looking for chances to invade and snatch land. And always calling it a "peace operation". Peace operation in Cyprus,grabbed about 40% of the land. Peace operation in Syria,grabbed big parts of northern Syria. Every time Turkey launches a peace operation,somehow people are forced to leave their homes.

We sticked to the Annan Plan to unify Cyprus. The Turkish side voted yes. The Greek side didn't.

If i think afterwards, good that they didn't unify otherwise the EU could freely navigate at our shores.

Thank you Greece. We love you.

 

[Anatolia]

Because those "hardcore" Muslims who keep talking about Ummah and excusing all those barbarians and their groups in Syria,prefer to fight the Shia,the Alawi and the Sunnis who disagree with them. Just like those groups they tend to support online,they believe their biggest obligation is to fight the Shia and those not deemed as real Muslims by them.

I don't think you fully understand the Sunni versus Shia dynamics. In Turkiye we have 10% Shia. but they're Turks and we have Azerbaijan too. The Sunni Versus Shia nonsense was created by Arabs and Iran/Pakistan. They don't want to openly call it Arab v Iran so they bring Religion into it.