Turkey to build bomb shelters across the country

[Anatolia]

I think you're the one living in a dream world actually...

If in the future Turkey is having trouble and at the same time has been a hindrance or threat to their interests,do you think the Westerners or the Russians will not fall on you and try to grab pieces here and there?

You think especially the Westerners,are above ripping Turkey apart for their own profit?

Thanks for your crystal ball.. when should I pack my things and move away? do I have a week?

 

[Foinikas]

Yes , everybody has seen Turkiye in Syria , Iraq , Azerbaijan , N.Cyprus , Libya , Qatar , Somalia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

Ya komsun...bro,I don't know your name to address you in a friendly manner,but man look at this,in Syria you mostly fought Kurdish militias,the ragtag Syrian Army which was almost nothing by then and the black caliphate. All that with the help of thousands of proxy militias.

In Iraq,you fought the PKK ragtag bands.

In Azerbaijan,you helped the Azeris fight the tiny Armenian forces with majority obsolete soviet weapons and a traitorous government.

In Cyprus,you fought a small,underequipped Greek Cypriot army that got no help from Greece(except for the ELDYK infantry and a few commandos)during a time when Greek Cypriots were divided because of the coup.

In Libya,you fought what? The LNA. The LNA was supported mainly by Russia,Egypt and UAE,but you were supporting the GNA along with Italy,USA and other countries. But we're talking the LNA.

In Qatar,Somalia you fought noone.

Man,do you really think these are military achievements to boast? Do you really think Russia is on the same level as Armenia or the Kurdish militias and that the West is as easy to fight against as was Haftar's Libya and Assad's Syria?

dream on , dream is free
your wishful thinking is another level

How many times have you seen countries change from friend to foe? What makes you think this is a dream,when you see geopolitical realities change easily the last 30 years.

 

[Foinikas]

What interests? They aren't willing to fight in Ukraine for their interests. lol

Things apparently will escalate in the future.

 

[MMM-E]

Netanyahu Criticises Turkiye, then watches Trump showering praises on Erdogan inside White House​

 

[Foinikas]

There are several EU states that have recognized Palestine recently. but regardless of that, going to war on behalf of Israel is something else. They aren't going to kill their own people and their own people don't want to go die for Israel.

Leaders don't care. There was an alliance formed against Iraq in 1991. And another one in 2003. They sent their own people to die for Israel's and big corporations' interests.

Governments can serve it the way they want. See how many civilians rushed to support Ukraine,even giving money to buy weapons to donate them.

They can always twist it somehow to make it look like it's for their people's safety. Americans had been invading countries in the name of democracy. Most of the EU propagated the fear a Russian invasion to boost support for Ukraine. Don't you remember? 2022-2023? The Russians will take the Baltics,they will attack Finland,they will attack Sweden,they will take Poland,they will invade Germany,they will reach France etc.

 

[Foinikas]

Netanyahu Criticises Turkiye, then watches Trump showering praises on Erdogan inside White House​

Man,you should know that governments change. How many changes in American policy have you seen the last 15 years? From Bush,to Obama,to Trump,to Biden to again Trump.

 

[MMM-E]

Israel and Turkiye will not fight directly
maybe over proxies in Syria ... nothing else

Man,do you really think these are military achievements to boast? Do you really think Russia is on the same level as Armenia or the Kurdish militias and that the West is as easy to fight against as was Haftar's Libya and Assad's Syria?

now is Russia your hope ?

Russia is happy to work with Turkiye
PUTIN : "We see Türkiye as a reliable and proven partner both in bilateral relations and in the international arena"

01.09.2025 ERDOGAN and PUTIN met in China

 

[hyperman]

Leaders don't care. There was an alliance formed against Iraq in 1991. And another one in 2003. They sent their own people to die for Israel's and big corporations' interests.

Governments can serve it the way they want. See how many civilians rushed to support Ukraine,even giving money to buy weapons to donate them.

They can always twist it somehow to make it look like it's for their people's safety. Americans had been invading countries in the name of democracy. Most of the EU propagated the fear a Russian invasion to boost support for Ukraine. Don't you remember? 2022-2023? The Russians will take the Baltics,they will attack Finland,they will attack Sweden,they will take Poland,they will invade Germany,they will reach France etc.

Foinikas, no one in defense circles is discussing some European invasion of Turkey on behalf of Israel, you cooked up this whole strange scenario and and derailed the thread again discussing this silliness.

 

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Chinese President Xi Jinping:

China and Turkİiye are emerging major powers with a spirit of independence and important members of the Global South.

The two countries should take their strategic cooperation to a new level and work together to build a more just and equitable global governance system



Russia and China wants to work with Turkiye instead of fighting

 

[Anatolia]

Russia and China wants to work with Turkiye instead of fighting

Not happening, right now we align with USA. stop this fantasy.

 

[Foinikas]

now is Russia your hope ?

Russia is happy to work with Turkiye
PUTIN : "We see Türkiye as a reliable and proven partner both in bilateral relations and in the international arena"

Things can change fast,politically.

 

[MMM-E]

Not happening, right now we align with USA. stop this fantasy.

The USA is not a real ally to Turkiye ... The USA is behind all the coups in Türkiye

not USA but Russia built the first nuclear power plant in Turkiye

while USA did not sale PATRIOT AD System to Turkiye , both China and Russia offered HQ-9 and S400 to Turkiye


I'm not saying we'll pull out of NATO, but we can establish economic and strategic cooperation with Russia and China.

 

[Anatolia]

The USA is not a real ally to Turkiye ... The USA is behind all the coups in Türkiye

not USA but Russia built the first nuclear power plant in Turkiye

while USA did not sale PATRIOT AD System to Turkiye , both China and Russia offered HQ-9 and S400 to Turkiye


I'm not saying we'll pull out of NATO, but we can establish economic and strategic cooperation with Russia and China.

You just dont get it.
Turks have ZERO friends. Never have and never will. thats not the question here. what we get from NATO/USA alliance works for Turks more than China/Russia will ever offer.
For starters we compete in Central Asia.
In 10-years time we might become even bigger player inside NATO than we'd ever do with Russia etc.
China offers us nothing we need. Russia I kind of understand, they're basically a neighbour, and we kind of have no choice but to be friendly in a way.

 

[MMM-E]

Turks have ZERO friends. Never have and never will. thats not the question here. what we get from NATO/USA alliance works for Turks more than China/Russia will ever offer.
For starters we compete in Central Asia.

When Turkiye could not get enough support for development projects from the West since 1958, The Soviet Union wanted Turkiye to remain a neutral country ,then ready to give every kind of support to Turkiye

However, USA backed 1960 coup prevented Turkiye from working with the Soviet Union

Never forget that
-- Russians built the first textile factory in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first oil refining factory TUPRAS in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first ammunition manufacturing factory MKE in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first Aluminum factory in Turkiye
-- Russians built many ports in Turkey including Mersin and İskenderun ports
-- Russians built the first iron and steel factory in Turkiye ( now Turkiye 2nd biggest steel producer in Europe )

and now Russians build the first nuclear power plant in Turkiye
and Israel is so angry

China offers us nothing we need.

The high speed railway link in Turkiye was built by a Chinese-Turkish consortium and Turkiye aim 10.000 km high-speed rail system to become the 2nd in the world after China

China building a 5 gigawatt plant for the production of lithium batteries in Turkiye


1-- Turkiye and Turkic Countries plays key role China's trillion Dollars OBOR Project

2-- We can work with China for 5G technology and biomedicine

3-- We can work with China for future nuclear power plants which will be based on Thorium

Turkiye hosts huge thorium reserves to provide even 500 years electric energy of Europe


on the other hand , USA-Israel wants to block Turkiye to become energy and transportation hub and they dont want to see nuclear technology in Turkiye

Also USA-Israel wants to destroy territorial integrity of Turkiye

 

[Anatolia]

Never forget that
-- Russians built the first textile factory in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first oil refining factory TUPRAS in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first ammunition manufacturing factory MKE in Turkiye
-- Russians built the first Aluminum factory in Turkiye
-- Russians built many ports in Turkey including Mersin and İskenderun ports
-- Russians built the first iron and steel factory in Turkiye ( now Turkiye 2nd biggest steel producer in Europe )

Another thing with Russians is we have a lot of tourism from them, so that's something i'd like to keep. still, i'd be wary with Russians, they don't do much "allies" they look after themselves, which is a good thing for them.
You also have to see the help they did to Iran.... which was no help lol. Russia had the chance to help against US/Israel and did nothing.
Lets not forget Russia and Israel relations too.

Also USA-Israel wants to destroy territorial integrity of Turkiye

we've fought bigger enemies than US/Israel when we were in a worse position than now, i don't have worries for that .

Lets not forget the Turkic element in Russia. and beyond Turkiye.