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[MMM-E]

Germany will not block the sale of Eurofighters to Türkiye.

Airbus Defense and Space CEO Michael Schoellhorn:
— The German government has made it clear. They said they will not block this and that they support the sale of Eurofighters to Türkiye. I think this matter is closed.

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[Oublious]

Israel can never prestrike Turkiye, lol how that foni thinks.

 

[hyperman]

Oman wants to sell its entire fleet of 12 Eurofighter Tranche 3A to Turkey. Its a good deal, along with the Qatar buy.

 

[Foinikas]

Israel can never prestrike Turkiye, lol how that foni thinks.

Why? Invisibility cloak?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Oman wants to sell its entire fleet of 12 Eurofighter Tranche 3A to Turkey. Its a good deal, along with the Qatar buy.

How many in total will that make it from Oman, Qatar and also Türkiye orders to the UK?

 

[Oublious]

Why? Invisibility cloak?

Pre strike against Turkiye, this is not low level army like Iran who does not have airforce. No radar coverage, EW and SIGIN, no intel. If you think that F35 can fly unseen in Turkiye and bomb you are living in fantasy world.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye has high technology Radars to detect the F-35 from 120+ km away



Turkiye has American , Italian and Turkish Radars to detect the F-35 from 120+ km away

-- 460 km AN/FPS-117 AESA L band AESA Radar ( USA )
-- 470 km Selex RAT-31DL 3D L-Band AESA Radar ( Italy )
-- 450+ km ALP-300G S Band AESA Radar ( Turkiye )
-- Also 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600 km AESA Radar

These Radar systems communicate with each other via data links






And Aselsan HERİKKS Air Defence Early Warning and C4I System receives air threat information from a variety of Radars, produces a recognized air picture in real time and assigns the available air defense weapons to selected targets

 

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ASOJ-23A and KORAL-200 Radar Electronic Warfare Systems to jam enemy Fighter Jet Radars from 400 km away


This superior technology is only available in Turkiye and Israel in the region.





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36 S400 Air Defense Systems with 192 Missiles ( 240-380 km )

150+ km SIPER Block2 , HISAR-O and GOKDEMIR Air Defense Systems to play very critical role to block enemy Air Forces to enter Turkish Air Space and to protect strategic targets

SIPER Block2

GOKDEMIR

HISAR-O



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Turkiye has launched an initiative to strengthen its Fighter Jet fleet

-- 40 Eurofighters with 200 km METEOR air to air Misiles
-- 40 F-16V with 160 km AIM-120C8 air to air Misiles
-- 29 F-16 Block50+ with 160 km AIM-120C8 air to air Misiles
-- 200 F-16 Block70 standard ( OZGUR-2 upgrade ) 185-200 km GOKBORA-GOKHAN air to air Misiles

-- Also 3 stealth platforms KAAN , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 with MURAD-100A/600A AESA Radar and 185-200 km GOKBORA-GOKHAN air to air Misiles

 

[hyperman]

How many in total will that make it from Oman, Qatar and also Türkiye orders to the UK?

12 Tranche3A from Oman(they are giving their whole fleet as its expensive to maintain)

12 Tranche 3A from Qatar, which is about Half the Eurofighter fleet, funny thing is Qatar isn't doing it out of cost, they are also ordering more Eurofighters(12 Tranche 4 ordered yet to deliver), so this seems to be as a favor to Turkey rather than a sale of an asset thats expensive to maintain.

24(Tranche 4/5) new ones from the UK.

altogether about 48 jets.

 

[Anatolian]

12 Tranche3A from Oman(they are giving their whole fleet as its expensive to maintain)

12 Tranche 3A from Qatar, which is about Half the Eurofighter fleet, funny thing is Qatar isn't doing it out of cost, they are also ordering more Eurofighters(12 Tranche 4 ordered yet to deliver), so this seems to be as a favor to Turkey rather than a sale of an asset thats expensive to maintain.

24(Tranche 4/5) new ones from the UK.

altogether about 48 jets.

Sounds better then getting Tranch 1 from the UK

 

[hyperman]

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[Eşbah]

I dont agree with your logic of military supremacy, Israel has only ever gone up against poorly trained countries that don't know how to fight. Turkiye is an entirely different domain.

As you have said, Israel's advantage is it is air force on the basis of pre-emption but I do think Turkieye is better equipped to see, and understand their pre-emption and counter it before it can become effective as a military tool.

I find it hard to understand individuals who cannot provide a nuanced analysis of possible war scenarios. Is it due to a lack of knowledge or perhaps political bias? One cannot overlook the strengths of the IAF; they are currently at the forefront of technology. There exists a significant qualitative difference between the TAF and IAF that cannot be ignored, yet forecasting the actual outcome of a war is nearly impossible. There are simply too many unknown variables that cannot be accounted for.

The Israelis acknowledged that the possibility of losing a few planes over Iran was a real concern. They even had a special operations team on standby to rescue their pilots and eliminate any remnants of the aircraft, but the Iranians were just overwhelmed and not performing up to par, which is why the Zionists didn't lose fighter jets over Iran.

If the Israelis perceived a genuine risk of losing fighter jets over Iran, even though Iran does not have adequate air defense and aircraft, how would they evaluate a possible conflict with the Turkish military?

I assure you that their assessment is far more grim than many here anticipate. They prepared 20 years for the 12 Day War and had the entire NATO assist them. They will never risk a confrontation with Türkiye. At least not in the foreseeable future.

 

[Eşbah]

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I'm not sure how reliable this information is, but some Arabs claim that keeping the Eurofighters has become a financial strain that the Qataris consider unnecessary. So selling them to Türkiye is a strategic move to free resources and deepen the relationship with Ankara.

 

[Foinikas]

yet forecasting the actual outcome of a war is nearly impossible. There are simply too many unknown variables that cannot be accounted for.

Nobody is forecasting it. There's a lot of variables and that's why I've been saying to all those obsessed with Turkish superiority,that the Israelis are a tougher nut to crack than Syrians and Kurds.

I wrote a big post but deleted it,because we're running in circles. We end up not agreeing on it.

 

[hyperman]

I'm not sure how reliable this information is, but some Arabs claim that keeping the Eurofighters has become a financial strain that the Qataris consider unnecessary. So selling them to Türkiye is a strategic move to free resources and deepen the relationship with Ankara.

Qataris have 12 Trance T4 Eurofighters waiting to be delivered, that haven't been built yet.

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