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[Foinikas]

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400 Kizilelmas. It would be crazy if this is actually true.

Its not even ready yet, and we have heard from many sources trying to acquire. Kizilelma might really just be Baykar's Kizilelma. Not many people have a drone in development of this caliber.

When you got money to spend...

 

[UKBengali]

If this KSA-Turkish potential deal is true then Zio-US is not going to like this one bit.

Of course they want both Turkey and KSA to remain weak and dependent on them.

 

[hyperman]

If this KSA-Turkish potential deal is true then Zio-US is not going to like this one bit.

Of course they want both Turkey and KSA to remain weak and dependent on them.

I want all of them who buy western equipment to consider Turkey as an alternative. No need to give money to people like France, Germany, etc etc. Turkey will give them good deals and even local production and codevelopement and transfer of tech for local production, and no strings attached to weapons like hypocritical west(they give to Israel for genocide but cite "concerns" over selling to MENA countries). This way, there can be an ecosystem of defense equipment of NATO caliber formed in the Arab/Muslim world. None of these people would sell weapons that are any threat to Israel and they always sell nerfed weapons, but Turkey doesn't care one bit about that, Turkey will freely sell.

Saudi and Egypt especially are huge military markets. They should work to end their reliance on the US for defense partnerships, and keep things regional.

I honestly think there is much potential for codevelopement within the Turkic States and the OIC. No need to buy from Russia, West or even China. They have money to expand scope of defense projects and partnership and Turkey has the technical knowhow. Honestly there is potential to remove the entire Western Ecosystem of defense products with enough Research and development investment.

Turkey has the research and defense capability but can't do it alone, b/c of Fund limitation for bigger projects, but if Saudi and GCC and Indonesia and Pakistan and Malaysia work together, they can take things to the next level by developing even large planes similar to Y-20, Il-76 and C-17s etc etc. Beneficial for both sides, in breaking the monopolies.

 

[hyperman]

When you got money to spend...

Seljuk gonna Buy Airbus next after Piaggio Aerospace. lol

 

[UKBengali]

I want all of them who buy western equipment to consider Turkey as an alternative. No need to give money to people like France, Germany, etc etc. Turkey will give them good deals and even local production and codevelopement and transfer of tech for local production, and no strings attached to weapons like hypocritical west(they give to Israel for genocide but cite "concerns" over selling to MENA countries). This way, there can be an ecosystem of defense equipment of NATO caliber formed in the Arab/Muslim world. None of these people would sell weapons that are any threat to Israel and they always sell nerfed weapons, but Turkey doesn't care one bit about that, Turkey will freely sell.

Saudi and Egypt especially are huge military markets. They should work to end their reliance on the US for defense partnerships, and keep things regional.

I honestly think there is much potential for codevelopement within the Turkic States and the OIC. No need to buy from Russia, West or even China. They have money to expand scope of defense projects and partnership and Turkey has the technical knowhow. Honestly there is potential to remove the entire Western Ecosystem of defense products with enough Research and development investment.

Turkey has the research and defense capability but can't do it alone, b/c of Fund limitation for bigger projects, but if Saudi and GCC and Indonesia and Pakistan and Malaysia work together, they can take things to the next level by developing even large planes similar to Y-20, Il-76 and C-17s etc etc. Beneficial for both sides, in breaking the monopolies.

BD has already started buying major Turkish systems like TRG-300.

The Army has already selected Hisar-O SAM as an upgrade on its current Chinese FM-90 SAM.

As long as Turkey has sufficient quality then countries like BD will order as and when they have requirement and funds.

Preference will be given to Turkey over say western options but BD will want to also order stuff from China when it makes sense and to have a dual supply line.

In essence Turkey has another "home market" that is just as large as the Turkish military and will probably get larger as time goes by.

 

[hyperman]

BD has already started buying major Turkish systems like TRG-300.

The Army has already selected Hisar-O SAM as an upgrade on its current Chinese FM-90 SAM.

As long as Turkey has sufficient quality then countries like BD will order as and when they have requirement and funds.

Preference will be given to Turkey over say western options but BD will want to also order stuff from China when it makes sense and to have a dual supply line.

In essence Turkey has another "home market" that is just as large as the Turkish military and will probably get larger as time goes by.

I think there is potential for the Bangladesh Air Force to consider the Hurjet trainer and lead in fighter in the replacement role of the Chengdu J-7s they currently fly, it would be two birds one stone, with the same airframe capable of being a trainer and a light fighter.

There is potential there for Pakistan as well for the Jf-17s, but it would depend on Bangladesh, as a Pakistani purchase would no doubt be a political move as well. Both options are open for Bangladesh for upgrading their air force.

 

[UKBengali]

I think there is potential for the Bangladesh Air Force to consider the Hurjet trainer and lead in fighter in the replacement role of the Chengdu J-7s they currently fly, it would be two birds one stone, with the same airframe capable of being a trainer and a light fighter.

There is potential there for Pakistan as well for the Jf-17s, but it would depend on Bangladesh, as a Pakistani purchase would no doubt be a political move as well. Both options are open for Bangladesh for upgrading their air force.

Actually after successfully developing the basic propeller trainer, BD would be interested in an international collaboration to develop a figher jet trainer over the next decade. Turkey and BD could potentially collaborate here using technologies developed for Hurjet to create a customised BD version.

As for Pakistan and JF-17, well that is a Chinese plane in essence and so easier just to go to the Chinese.

 

[hyperman]

As for Pakistan and JF-17, well that is a Chinese plane in essence and so easier just to go to the Chinese.

A chinese jet produced in Pakistan.

China to my understanding does not have the production like in China. It was codeveloped and then everything was passed over to Pakistan. Only the radar and other avionics and engine(Chinese although there is a Russian option) come from China. Pakistan does the assembly and integration and production of the airframes in Pakistan.

 

[Foinikas]

Seljuk gonna Buy Airbus next after Piaggio Aerospace. lol

I'm talking about the Saudis though

 

[hyperman]

I'm talking about the Saudis though

yeah i know, 400 Kizilelma is going to be a lot of revenue for even bigger projects for Baykar.

 

[Foinikas]

yeah i know, 400 Kizilelma is going to be a lot of revenue for even bigger projects for Baykar.

It's a huge order! Saudis sure know how to spend money.

 

[Ak01]

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400 Kizilelmas. It would be crazy if this is actually true.

Its not even ready yet, and we have heard from many sources trying to acquire. Kizilelma might really just be Baykar's Kizilelma. Not many people have a drone in development of this caliber.

skeptical... this would more than double the aircraft fleet of the KSA, such a buy would mean theyd need to build a load more airbases/infrastructure.

 

[Quwa]

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400 Kizilelmas. It would be crazy if this is actually true.

Its not even ready yet, and we have heard from many sources trying to acquire. Kizilelma might really just be Baykar's Kizilelma. Not many people have a drone in development of this caliber.

This is what AZM or PFX ought to have been: a UCAV for loyal wingman and strike roles.

In the long-run, those numbers (400) won't seem like much, especially at the lower end of the spectrum (expendable designs for decoy, kamikaze, etc., tasks).

 

[Eşbah]

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ARES 65 | Fast Attack Craft (FAC)

Iraq will receive three boats.

 

[Eşbah]

skeptical... this would more than double the aircraft fleet of the KSA, such a buy would mean theyd need to build a load more airbases/infrastructure.

400 Kizilelma + 100 KAANs? Too good to be true...