Turkish Engine Programs

MMM-E said:
What Germany persistently fail to understand is that with embargoes they are only stealing our time. They're actually creating a very strong competitor which soon taught them harsh realities in a tank mod tender. Now they are threatening own customers not to work with Turkiye

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Yep, they threatened to not sell Chile Leopard 2A4s b/c Chile was going to go with the upgrade package for those thanks from Rocketsan rather than Rheinmetall. lol
 
MMM-E said:
What Germany persistently fail to understand is that with embargoes they are only stealing our time. They're actually creating a very strong competitor which soon taught them harsh realities in a tank mod tender. Now they are threatening own customers not to work with Turkiye

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I would say the only thing missing is an indigenous 105 mm gun replacement for the Belgian Cockerill gun and an indigenous powerpack for the Kaplan light tank(maybe one of the BMC units can be fitted) and then all Turkish land systems should theoretically is completely indigenous.
 
hyperman said:
Yep, they threatened to not sell Chile Leopard 2A4s b/c Chile was going to go with the upgrade package for those thanks from Rocketsan rather than Rheinmetall. lol
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... what Turkey does not understand is, that developing and producing reliable powerful engines and transmissions which is even more the relevant part is not that easy and therefore still these "export" dreams are just dreams!

And the same is even more valid for fighter engines.
 
You are thinking very wrongly my friend @Deino

Because these "reliable and civilized" engine manufacturers do not sell platform engines to the countries we plan to sell weapons to for various reasons. Because these so-called noblemens label everyone else as barbarians. The Chinese are included in this! 2-3 Years ago, the German Defense Minister forgot that the microphone was off and revealed this. LOL

The main reason we got involved in this business was the sales that were not made to us, not export concerns. Therefore, just as we easily sold UAVs, we can sell these engines just as easily.

In fact, we have already started selling them! Kale AR-GE cannot keep up with the orders for the mini turbojet engines it produces for cruise missiles at the moment. By the way, there are NATO countries among the buyers. Not just "barbarian" countries. ;)

Also remember, two major machine manufacturers will withdraw from the market due to the economic devastation caused by the war. These are Russia and Ukraine. Instead of these countries, China, India and Turkey will enter the market. In the future, Italy and Japan will also join this league of countries that cannot produce machines. Because of their aging populations. I did not count South Korea as an independent machine manufacturer because it is not an independent country. They act like a state of the USA.

As for the part where we cannot produce reliable machines, the ones we have produced so far have been very reliable. UAV diesel engines, TS-1400 engine and turbojet engines. The engine part of the BATU power pack has also proven to be better than the South Korean engine. If we can manage the transmission part, there will be no problem. We will see what will happen with large jet engines in time.
 
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Deino said:
... what Turkey does not understand is, that developing and producing reliable powerful engines and transmissions which is even more the relevant part is not that easy and therefore still these "export" dreams are just dreams!

And the same is even more valid for fighter engines.
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There are quite a few Armored vehicles with Turkish drive trains.

We see the K2 being exported and cutting into German Leopard 2 sales, case in point Poland.

Do you really think German exports of equipment will be as competitive considering the various production emerging from South Korea and Turkey, with none of the baggage of dealing with the German bureaucracy and unpredictability with embargoes?

The TS1400 is almost ready for mass production with the passing of ESA certfications, and will indeed to exported.

Just wait 10 years, the export environment is going to be completely different from what it is now.
 
Deino said:
... what Turkey does not understand is, that developing and producing reliable powerful engines and transmissions which is even more the relevant part is not that easy and therefore still these "export" dreams are just dreams!

And the same is even more valid for fighter engines.
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BTW Deino, what does this have to do with the Chile situation of sales being refused if the upgrade contracts didn't go to Rhinemettal as opposed to Rocketsan?
 
MMM-E said:
What Germany persistently fail to understand is that with embargoes they are only stealing our time. They're actually creating a very strong competitor which soon taught them harsh realities in a tank mod tender. Now they are threatening own customers not to work with Turkiye

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Why does Germany have beef with Turkish industry, there are many Turkish people living in Germany also they had good relations prior to 1920

I don't quite understand the rift in modern era
 
Well I will just have to follow the stories closely I am not quite familiar with Germany , only often hear about Turkish footballers playing for Germany or Muslims buying German cars

They did won some positive news when they allowed Syrian refugees in their country , I thought that was also a very bold positive move
 
AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
Why does Germany have beef with Turkish industry, there are many Turkish people living in Germany also they had good relations prior to 1920

I don't quite understand the rift in modern era
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They don't like Turkey's geopolitical growth, though they are not the worst, France is on a whole different level. The French vetoed the EU buying artillery shells from Turkey to supply Ukraine, they would rather spend more money on shells and less shells to Ukraine, that let any benefit come to Turkish defense industry. These are Turkey's "NATO allies" mind you. lol
 
AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
Why does Germany have beef with Turkish industry, there are many Turkish people living in Germany also they had good relations prior to 1920

I don't quite understand the rift in modern era
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It is founded on real mutual interests that are more important than the lack of common values

-- Germany support PKK-YPG Terrorism to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity
-- Germany support Greece to steal oil-gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

so on and so on

not only Germany but also France
Turkiye and Germany-France are experiencing a huge Geopolitical conflict of interests from the Balkans to Caucasus - Central Asia and from Libya to Syria and Eastern Mediterranean
 
TEI General Manager Mahmut Faruk Akşit


▫-- We have also completed the second TF-6000 Engine
We have conducted nearly 60 tests. We are currently making the afterburner version ....... TF-6000 and TF-10000 are being developed simultaneously.

▫-- TF-6000 can power KIZILELMA and ANKA-3. Even in this form, there are customers from abroad.

▫-- There are two companies in the world that can process aircraft engine turbine blades with the additive manufacturing Nickel Superalloy method,

one is General Electric from USA , the other is TEI from Turkiye

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✅ While TEİ continues its work to meet our engine needs in many classes, it has also undertaken very important work in material technology.

✅It has also managed to become one of the world's leading companies with production technology at certain points by developing new generation production methods.

Additive manufacturing technologies
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We as TEI had to produce the first Pure Nickel and the first Pure Cobalt in Turkiye
because they were also coming from abroad. while producing Engines,
 
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Deino said:
... what Turkey does not understand is, that developing and producing reliable powerful engines and transmissions which is even more the relevant part is not that easy and therefore still these "export" dreams are just dreams!

And the same is even more valid for fighter engines.
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What does Deino not understand is, we as Turks can do whatever we want, , we cant accept any limits from outsiders, we discussed it with you at KAAN topic so the plane flies now. and the engines will run perfect eventually despite all others' objections .

we export Anka and Aksungur with Turkish engines thet is not a dream
 
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