Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[Anatolian]

They shouldn't have taken the RSF side in Sudan. Maybe it's something about the gold mines?

What do you mean taken RSF side lol, they ARE the RSF. I have never seen a more despised country than UAE, the Sudanese especially despise them with every fiber of their being. They are just a bunch of rich sheikhs going on war adventures. Investing mindboggling amount of resources and money into places they honestly have no business being in. Yemen, Libya, Sudan and etc.

There is a reason why they are effectively blackballed and shadow-embargoed from getting the most cutting edge weapons and technology from every arms supplier. They were willing to sell out Palestinians and create ties with Israel to get their hands on F-35's, which is basically heresy in the Middle-East. Only to still not get the F-35's lmao lol. I don't know why we aren't actively helping the Sudanese Army, because **** UAE.

 

[UKBengali]

What do you mean taken RSF side lol, they ARE the RSF. I have never seen a more despised country than UAE, the Sudanese especially despise them with every fiber of their being. They are just a bunch of rich sheikhs going on war adventures. Investing mindboggling amount of resources and money into places they honestly have no business being in. Yemen, Libya, Sudan and etc.

There is a reason why they are effectively blackballed and shadow-embargoed from getting the most cutting edge weapons and technology from every arms supplier. They were willing to sell out Palestinians and create ties with Israel to get their hands on F-35's, which is basically heresy in the Middle-East. Only to still not get the F-35's lmao lol. I don't know why we aren't actively helping the Sudanese Army, because **** UAE.

And Turkey has not "sold out" Palestine with supplying oil to carry out genocide since October 7th?

At least UAE did not supply the very fuel that went into Zionist planes that dropped 2000lb bombs on Gaza apartment blocks, sometimes killing hundreds at once.

Now don't come back with "international agreements" as no honourable Muslim country would have any relations with the Zionist occupier of Palestine to start off with.

It would be funny if not so serious that one collaborator is accusing another of being worse.

 

[hyperman]

They shouldn't have taken the RSF side in Sudan. Maybe it's something about the gold mines?

It has to do with elections. lol

The current General agreed with the Local activists to hold elections early, and elections terrify the UAE regime, he have been trying to destroy post Arab spring govts and any rule by popular consent, b/c they think if it survives in one place, it will spread throughout the region and eventually their own fiefdoms.

They facilitated the coup in Egypt. They backed Haftar in Libya. And they facilitated the "self coup" by Kais Said in Tunisia.

But the momentum seems to be going the other way now, with their Assad rehabilitation project collapsing.

 

[hyperman]

What do you mean taken RSF side lol, they ARE the RSF. I have never seen a more despised country than UAE, the Sudanese especially despise them with every fiber of their being. They are just a bunch of rich sheikhs going on war adventures. Investing mindboggling amount of resources and money into places they honestly have no business being in. Yemen, Libya, Sudan and etc.

There is a reason why they are effectively blackballed and shadow-embargoed from getting the most cutting edge weapons and technology from every arms supplier. They were willing to sell out Palestinians and create ties with Israel to get their hands on F-35's, which is basically heresy in the Middle-East. Only to still not get the F-35's lmao lol. I don't know why we aren't actively helping the Sudanese Army, because **** UAE.

They were also connected to the Gulen coup in Turkey.

For a while there was a cold war between Turkey and the UAE in every country basically not just Libya, but in Syria they gave money and weapons to the PKK, but there was a detente eventually agreed to as neither side was able to break the Standstill, Emiratis failed in toppling Tayyip and Turkey had a bunch of other issue unresolved, so they made peace.

Syrian Opposition getting rid of Assad has reignited it, but Turkey is cautious right now, they don't want to overcommit, and they are trying to navigate this delicately without picking a direct fight like last time.

 

[hyperman]

And Turkey has not "sold out" Palestine with supplying oil to carry out genocide since October 7th?

At least UAE did not supply the very fuel that went into Zionist planes that dropped 2000lb bombs on Gaza apartment blocks, sometimes killing hundreds at once.

Now don't come back with "international agreements" as no honourable Muslim country would have any relations with the Zionist occupier of Palestine to start off with.

It would be funny if not so serious that one collaborator is accusing another of being worse.

There is no Jet fuel being supplied. Please stop lying. The oil thing has been explained to you a 100x times.

And nice sidestepping of the Question on Iran's actions with regards to the PKK. lol

 

[Anatolian]

And Turkey has not "sold out" Palestine with supplying oil to carry out genocide since October 7th?

At least UAE did not supply the very fuel that went into Zionist planes that dropped 2000lb bombs on Gaza apartment blocks, sometimes killing hundreds at once.

Now don't come back with "international agreements" as no honourable Muslim country would have any relations with the Zionist occupier of Palestine to start off with.

It would be funny if not so serious that one collaborator is accusing another of being worse.

Turkey is absolutely not squicky clean, and most Turks would tell you how Erdogan is nothing more then a populist that say one thing and does the other. But beside that we don't actively support genocidal groups in civil wars nor do we create them. They much like Iran are an ACTIVE destablizing force within the region, and that is an objective fact.

Also my point wasn't them supporting Israel, but supporting them so publically and openly. With the explecit goal in mind to trade it for fighter jets. Thats one of the most cutt throat brutal outright transactional thing they did. Countries at least have the deceny to not publically support Israel, as bad as that still is, but to openly trade Palestinians for fighter jets is beyond evil. So yeah, they ARE worse and public concensus and sentiment would absolutely align with me on that.

Biases aside, our foreign policy is largely based around supporting populist and moderate factions. Unlike Iran and UAE, which would destroy entire countries to retain their unpopular influence.

 

[hyperman]

Turkey is absolutely not squicky clean, and most Turks would tell you how Erdogan is nothing more then a populist that say one thing and does the other. But beside that we don't actively support genocidal groups in civil wars nor do we create them. They much like Iran are an ACTIVE destablizing force within the region, and that is an objective fact.

Also my point wasn't them supporting Israel, but supporting them so publically and openly. With the explecit goal in mind to trade it for fighter jets. Thats one of the most cutt throat brutal outright transactional thing they did. Countries at least have the deceny to not publically support Israel, as bad as that still is, but to openly trade Palestinians for fighter jets is beyond evil. So yeah, they ARE worse and public concensus and sentiment would absolutely align with me on that.

Biases aside, our foreign policy is largely based around supporting populist and moderate factions. Unlike Iran and UAE, which would destroy entire countries to retain their unpopular influence.

this dude never criticizes Iran like he attacks Turkey. I was confused about it as first, but then I realized why. lol

The try to act more Pro Palestine than everyone but really they are peddling Iranian interests disguised Pro Palestine. Like they will justify Assad slaughtering people, "all for the sake of palestine", but you see how they are all quiet now over the Iran supporting the PKK stuff, or now Iran trying to distance itself and not going all out to save Hezbollah or the Houthis, in their "Axis of resistance". And now Javad Zarif is saying they don't have proxies and whatnot. lol

 

[Eşbah]

It has to do with elections. lol

The current General agreed with the Local activists to hold elections early, and elections terrify the UAE regime, he have been trying to destroy post Arab spring govts and any rule by popular consent, b/c they think if it survives in one place, it will spread throughout the region and eventually their own fiefdoms.

They facilitated the coup in Egypt. They backed Haftar in Libya. And they facilitated the "self coup" by Kais Said in Tunisia.

But the momentum seems to be going the other way now, with their Assad rehabilitation project collapsing.

In some ways, they're worse than the Netanyahu regime in Israel.

United Arab Emirates occupation of Socotra - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Anatolian]

this dude never criticizes Iran like he attacks Turkey. I was confused about it as first, but then I realized why. lol

The try to act more Pro Palestine than everyone but really they are peddling Iranian interests disguised Pro Palestine. Like they will justify Assad slaughtering people, "all for the sake of palestine", but you see how they are all quiet now over the Iran supporting the PKK stuff, or now Iran trying to distance itself and not going all out to save Hezbollah or the Houthis, in their "Axis of resistance". And now Javad Zarif is saying they don't have proxies and whatnot. lol

Iran atleast tries to pretend it doesn't use the Palestinians to justify and disguise it efforts to pettle their influence. Literally every single Arab I have talked to, all of whome Pro-Palestine also despice Iran, but despise Israel more and therefore its tolerated. So the fact this guy tries to make the argument that there is no "worse" country is laughable because practically every one has a list of "worse" countries and Iran is always at the top or second to Israel. And the UAE is a top contender on that list. His argument boils down to whataboutsim that he only applies to selected countries. You ask the average Middle-Eastern if they would support Iran, UAE, S.Arabia or Turkey, 8 to 9 times out of 10 it would always be Turkey.

 

[Anatolian]

In some ways, they're worse than the Netanyahu regime in Israel.

United Arab Emirates occupation of Socotra - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Hence my point that UAE is one of the most despiced countries, much like Iran they would destroy countries to gain influence. But they don't even pretend to do it for the Palestinians and infact actively spit on their plight by giving a Palestine a price tag. That price tag being F-35 fighter jets... which makes it sooooo much worse.

 

[UKBengali]

There is no Jet fuel being supplied. Please stop lying. The oil thing has been explained to you a 100x times.

And nice sidestepping of the Question on Iran's actions with regards to the PKK. lol

"Explanations" have been rejected as not good enough.

The only honourable relations Turkey could have with a modern day Crusader entity in ME is none. No one is asking Turkey to fire a single shot at it.

Who cares if it is jet fuel or crude oil and I just said "oil" and then "fuel", as the Zionists can refine crude oil into both jet fuel and diesel to put into their jets and armoured vehicles to slaughter Gazans, Lebanese and others.

Only reason I again mentioned this supply of "fuel" is one collaborator(Turkey) accused another collaborator(UAE) of being worse than them.

As long as Turks and their supporters do not throw stones when sitting in glass houses, then no need to remind about this again.

 

[Eşbah]

The UAE (in coordination with Israel) is also trying to break Somalia apart by supporting the secessionist region Somaliland. The UAE is by far the worst regional player of all.

UAE to train Somaliland forces under military base deal | Africanews

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) will train Somaliland security forces as part of a deal to establish a military base in the semi-autonomous region, Somaliland’s president said on Thursday.

www.africanews.com

Through Somaliland, UAE Bolsters Israeli Military Presence - Emirates Leaks

Israeli media confirmed that the UAE is financing Israeli regional military expansion through the establishment of a military base in Somaliland. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz published a report titled, “All Eyes on Somaliland: The Small African State That Holds the Key to Israel’s War on Houthi...

emiratesleaks.com

 

[UKBengali]

The UAE (in coordination with Israel) is also trying to break Somalia apart by supporting the secessionist region Somaliland. The UAE is by far the worst regional player of all.

UAE to train Somaliland forces under military base deal | Africanews

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) will train Somaliland security forces as part of a deal to establish a military base in the semi-autonomous region, Somaliland’s president said on Thursday.

www.africanews.com

Through Somaliland, UAE Bolsters Israeli Military Presence - Emirates Leaks

Israeli media confirmed that the UAE is financing Israeli regional military expansion through the establishment of a military base in Somaliland. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz published a report titled, “All Eyes on Somaliland: The Small African State That Holds the Key to Israel’s War on Houthi...

emiratesleaks.com

OK, UAE is bad, very bad.

But it is a fake artificial entity that is an absolute dictatorship.

Turkey is a democracy and so are current relations with the Zionist entity based on what the people want or just an "elite" thing?

 

[Oublious]

OK, UAE is bad, very bad.

But it is a fake artificial entity that is an absolute dictatorship.

Turkey is a democracy and so are current relations with the Zionist entity based on what the people want or just an "elite" thing?

Iron....

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[hyperman]

"Explanations" have been rejected as not good enough.

The only honourable relations Turkey could have with a modern day Crusader entity in ME is none. No one is asking Turkey to fire a single shot at it.

Who cares if it is jet fuel or crude oil and I just said "oil" and then "fuel", as the Zionists can refine crude oil into both jet fuel and diesel to put into their jets and armoured vehicles to slaughter Gazans, Lebanese and others.

Only reason I again mentioned this supply of "fuel" is one collaborator(Turkey) accused another collaborator(UAE) of being worse than them.

As long as Turks and their supporters do not throw stones when sitting in glass houses, then no need to remind about this again.

Its been explained to you why, Turkey is not going to cut off its nose to spite its face. All for some BS Symbolic action that has not tangible discernible outcome.

That pipeline has very little to do with Israel and everything to do with Azerbaijan. Turkey doesn't really even have any leverage here, as there are several paths for the oil to travel without going through Turkey(ex: being offloaded in Georgia for example) Turkey is not going to jeopardize its interests in the Caucasus and Central Asia for essentially no damage or gain against Israel, which all it will have to do is buy oil from Russia. These are commodities, go learn how markets work. This is all you have, you have no other point to offer, just beating a dead horse. lol

The fact that you ignore that Turkey cancelled all exports to Israel which was a $10 billion dollar market but are stuck on an oil pipeline that has middle men come and transport the oil, saying they are taking the oil to Egypt and then offloading the oil elsewhere, says all there is in this situation. This is not honest criticism from a well meaning person and a person friendly to Turkey, this is hackery done by someone with Iranian interests in defamation of Turkey in mind.