Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[Foinikas]

Didn't you send an S-300? lol

lol no lol

 

[CrniLabud]

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Turkiye needs to address this, even threaten Serbia directly via backdoor diplomacy if necessary.

Yes the Bosnian prosecutors office started an investigation. The Bosnian SIPA state police arrested the priest and took him in for questioning. The priest ordered the construction of orthodox crosses within the confines of a Bosnian mosque. They claim this is a memorial for three Bosnian serb soldiers who died in WW1, however, records do not back this claim and it appears it is fabricated. Serbian church is an extended arm of Serbian intelligence and they routinely get involved in politics and provocative actions such as this.

 

[CrniLabud]

That's what puzzles me. I don't know what's going on there,I do know there Orthodox who were killed in Srebrenica(and supposedly some also counted among the dead Muslims),
but I don't understand. Maybe,maybe they went for a memorial service of the dead in the area,if they think there were dead who were not recognized or found and they went there for that reason. That's my thought.

If they could connect RS to Serbia,I don't think a few Bosnian Muslims would be their problem. They can't. It's part of bigger deals.

No serbs were killed during the Srebrenica genocide, however, during the course of the war 3,000 serbs dies in the municipality of Srebrenica. They were mainly soldiers (90%+) per court process and evidence in the hague. One off atrocities were committed by Bosnian soldiers but in few numbers, nothing systematic as per the serb side.

 

[CrniLabud]

Well Milorad Dodik has been trying his best. They need Brcko to do it. I think they are just waiting for the right opportunity and support from Serbia.

Every few months they rabble rouse over it. I hear of some incident in the news, then tensions calm down, they seem to be looking for a reason and opportunity to annex Brcka, they have already changed the demographics there from like 19% to a plurality in 2013 around 48% and its probably gone higher since then, they just haven't managed to break the status quo .

Correct, Dodik has been threatening secession for 15 years, but it is difficult when you don’t have an army and are prohibited to have an army per dayton peace accords. Bosnia is an EU candidte country and a NATO partner, EUFOR is present as is a NATO regional base, it is simply unreasonable to seek secession especially given the methods this entity rs was created with (genocide and mass ethnic cleansing). Brcko is a issue because 70% of the inhabitants are Bosniaks and Croats. Plus bordering brcko you have the Tuzla kanton home to 450k Bosniaks and a lot of Bosnian army bases. Serbia is arming themselves rapidly and constantly provoking everyone around it. Who knows, bit which ever way know that Bosniaks will fight just like they fought serbs, croats under an arms embargo 1992-1995 and achieved to preserve the state.

 

[Foinikas]

No serbs were killed during the Srebrenica genocide, however, during the course of the war 3,000 serbs dies in the municipality of Srebrenica. They were mainly soldiers (90%+) per court process and evidence in the hague. One off atrocities were committed by Bosnian soldiers but in few numbers, nothing systematic as per the serb side.

Stop calling it a genocide. Come on...it was first called a Massacre,then narrative wanted it "genocide". What's happening in Gaza was a genocide.

Naser Oric and his troops had been attacking and burning Serb villages in the area for 3 years. Their attacks on Serb civilians in the entire area was what pushed Serbs to decide on taking over Srebrenica in the first place. And where was he when Mladic's forces were closing in? Out pillaging.

 

[CrniLabud]

Stop calling it a genocide. Come on...it was first called a Massacre,then narrative wanted it "genocide". What's happening in Gaza was a genocide.

Naser Oric and his troops had been attacking and burning Serb villages in the area for 3 years. Their attacks on Serb civilians in the entire area was what pushed Serbs to decide on taking over Srebrenica in the first place. And where was he when Mladic's forces were closing in? Out pillaging.

It is a genocide per verdicts of the international court. It is also a textbook definition of genocide, the intent was to erase an ethnic group. Even though Srebrenica gets all of the attention, tens of thousands of Bosniaks died in other atrocities/massacres throughout Bosnia. Srebrenica symbolizes all atrocities against the Bosniak people.

Naser Oric went through a multi-year court proceeding and was found not guilty. Sure, there were isolated incidents but that was due to the atrocities serbs did in visegrad, bratunac, bijeljina, zvornik, foča, vlasenica at the begining of their aggression in 1992. If another war breaks out I am certain many serbs will find themselves in mass graves as revenge . But, in the lat war (1992-1995) only 4,000 serb civilians were killed, as opposed to the 45k Bosniak civilians…. 1/10 is not the same.

Some Serbs who remained loyal to Bosnia remained in big cities such as sarajevo and tuzla, they died from serb shelling so out of the 4k who knows how many died by their own.

Besides, you’re a greek, we won’t see eye to eye and you won’t accept the truth. You probably like what happened to Muslims, and probably wish more died.

 

[Foinikas]

It is a genocide per verdicts of the international court. It is also a textbook definition of genocide, the intent was to erase an ethnic group. Even though Srebrenica gets all of the attention, tens of thousands of Bosniaks died in other atrocities/massacres throughout Bosnia. Srebrenica symbolizes all atrocities against the Bosniak people.

Naser Oric went through a multi-year court proceeding and was found not guilty. Sure, there were isolated incidents but that was due to the atrocities serbs did in visegrad, bratunac, bijeljina, zvornik, foča, vlasenica at the begining of their aggression in 1992. If another war breaks out I am certain many serbs will find themselves in mass graves as revenge . But, in the lat war (1992-1995) only 4,000 serb civilians were killed, as opposed to the 45k Bosniak civilians…. 1/10 is not the same.

Some Serbs who remained loyal to Bosnia remained in big cities such as sarajevo and tuzla, they died from serb shelling so out of the 4k who knows how many died by their own.

Besides, you’re a greek, we won’t see eye to eye and you won’t accept the truth. You probably like what happened to Muslims, and probably wish more died.

Yeah Bosniaks got off lightly,Serbs and Croats condemned. One of the biggest sham trials. A triumph of Western propaganda. Of course,going against the official NATO/EC narrative would have meant to discredit their involvement in the Yugoslav Wars.

 

[Foinikas]

You probably like what happened to Muslims, and probably wish more died.

That's an extremely offensive assumption.

 

[hyperman]

Stop calling it a genocide. Come on...it was first called a Massacre,then narrative wanted it "genocide". What's happening in Gaza was a genocide.

Naser Oric and his troops had been attacking and burning Serb villages in the area for 3 years. Their attacks on Serb civilians in the entire area was what pushed Serbs to decide on taking over Srebrenica in the first place. And where was he when Mladic's forces were closing in? Out pillaging.

Srebenica was a Genocide. lol, shame I expected better from you, I knew you were Pro Serb but damn not even denial but outright defending the genocide.

 

[Foinikas]

Srebenica was a Genocide. lol, I shame I expected better from you, I knew you were Pro Serb but damn not even denial but outright defending the genocide.

If I give you a couple of videos to watch, two documentaries,will you watch them?

 

[hyperman]

If I give you a couple of videos to watch, two documentaries,will you watch them?

I don't need your propaganda to watch. They literally took slaughtered whole villages. and the rape camps in Foca. there is literally survivor testimony. Its fking disgraceful you would defend or justify that.

I have friends who are orphans b/c the their dads and uncles were lined up and shot while they were children and being hidden by the women folk as they watched.

They are all lying? Cmon man, we know you are Pro Serbian but don't act so disgracfully to justify the shit that happened as Srebenica.

 

[Waz]

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Turkiye needs to address this, even threaten Serbia directly via backdoor diplomacy if necessary.

Horrid lot. Hate them.

 

[Foinikas]

I don't need your propaganda to watch.

First of all,it's not "my propaganda". People,from diplomats,journalists,politicians,military and others from around the world talk about and analyze the events. With sources and quotes. One of the documentaries is made by Norwegians. Both are extremely awakening experiences.

They literally took slaughtered whole villages. and the rape camps in Foca. there is literally survivor testimony.

Same thing happened to Serbs by Bosniaks and Croats. Same thing happened to Croats by Bosniaks,same thing happened to Bosniaks by Croats.

I have friends who are orphans b/c the their dads and uncles were lined up and shot while they were children and being hidden by the women folk as they watched.

And there are children in Serbian whose fathers were literally beheaded by jihadi volunteers and their Bosniak units. One of the families left the screening at an event,before this specific scene was to be shown(the husband and father being abused by the Bosniaks and their bloodthirsty jihadis).

They are all lying?

Who's all? Were they dead in Srebrenica? Yes. Was it 7,000 or 8,000 or 9,000 like Jewish-American Madeleine Albright rushed to announce? No. What happened? Serbs were looking for those responsible for the atrocities against Serb villages in the area. There was a battle. Muslims lost. Town was surrounded by Serb forces. Some tried to escape while armed,some died. Then Serbs were looking for those who killed Serb villagers for 3 years in the area. They executed a number. How many? Some say a few hundred,some say maybe 2,000.

Suddenly,Western newspapers started writing about 8,000 and 9,000 innocent Muslim "men and boys",executed. Of course,this rang a ball. Serbs had been accused of the Markale massacre as well




And in a typical American fashion,villains become heroes and heroes become villains.

Same story with Oric and same story with your new star:

but don't act so disgracfully to justify the shit that happened as Srebenica.

Excuse me,you support and cheer the takeover of Syria by terrorists. People who belonged to some of the most notorious inhuman groups in history. And you justify it as "well Assad regime was bad"... You justify extremist groups in Syria. Isn't that a disgrace?

Let me ask you something...

Do you personally,the guy who hides behind two american flags and refuses to say straight up what's the deal with all his heavily pro-Turkish stance...

Do you condemn the genocide of Greeks in Asia Minor? And Armenians,let's put the Armenians too. Do you condemn it? I'm asking because if you don't,then isn't that a disgrace? Shouldn't I say "Hey,I knew you were pro-Ottoman,but oh man...this is so low!" or something like that?

 

[hyperman]

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[CrniLabud]

Foinakas spreads serb propaganda on forums and avoids the truth. Don’t waste your time on his arguments.