Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

Neither the Russian land bridge, nor China or even Iranian routes are viable for them to trade with Europe. They will have to use the middle corridor b/c Europe does not trust Russia.

Turkey and Azerbaijan can squeeze them together to bring them in line as retaliation, but idk if thats the right play to make.

This really should be handled more with Carrots than sticks.

Its incredibly unfortunate that they made this move, but I suspect its less them and more to do with the EU via Greece, Cyprus, France making relations with the EU conditional on the matter, and they seem to have chosen money over solidarity.

There is no real repercussion internally for them b/c they are all post soviet dictatorship and the people are largely apathetic.

I think the real failure here is lack of engagement with Turkey. And not enough engagement being pushed by the Turkish side, or perhaps they are adverse to Turkish influence in Central Asia, but thats probably not the case.

I noticed things were off when they sent a low level delegation to the Antalya Diplomacy forum, even Russia sent Lavrov, I'd understand maybe if they didn't send a head of state since they are usually busy, but not even sending a foreign minister was strange.

I think there is just not enough engagement on the part of Turkey here. No stronger defense engagement nor economic. They are more integrated with China and Russia than they are with Turkey, and those are bigger markets so i understand but the defense independence angle should have been pushed harder, and moving relations to strategic partnership. b/c as of right now, they don't give Turkey any significance, to the point where they think twice about doing things to the detriment of Turkey or care to deepen relations. They seem to be more shrewd and value economics rather than any cultural and brotherly attachment.

Thought on the bright side, this doesn't really change anything tangibly for Turkey on Cyprus, its not like even if they didn't take a stance, they would assist Turkey is Cyprus anyways, so this is more a symbolic loss than anything tangible etc.

You are taking it to lightly. I really dont like this move. This is a step back for us in the diplomatic sector.

South-Cyprus will see this as a opportunity to attrack businessmen and investments from Turkmenistan, Kazachstan, Uzbekistan and Kirgizia. And North-Cyprus is isolated again.

Traitor-nations. We should kick them out from the Organisation of Turkic States.

When the US and Israel recognized Western Sahara as a part of Morocco, the nations of Pakistan, Algeria, Mauritania, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan should have recognized North Cyprus.

We are not lobbying good.
 
You are taking it to lightly. I really dont like this move. This is a step back for us in the diplomatic sector.

South-Cyprus will see this as a opportunity to attrack businessmen and investments from Turkmenistan, Kazachstan, Uzbekistan and Kirgizia. And North-Cyprus is isolated again.

Traitor-nations. We should kick them out from the Organisation of Turkic States.

When the US and Israel recognized Western Sahara as a part of Morocco, the nations of Pakistan, Algeria, Mauritania, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan should have recognized North Cyprus.

We are not lobbying good.

I'm not being light, There are certain limitation and it would not be in Turkish interests to take punitive actions against them right now, even though theoretically there are levers(Azerbaijan/Middle Corridor)

You can't "kick them out" of the OTS, there are more of them than Turkey. 4 states vs 1 Turkey and 1 Azerbaijan(which btw has not recognized Northern Cyprus).

The reason recognition has been tricky is b/c Cyprus will veto any agreement in the EU with any country if they recognize Northern Cyprus, essentially both Greece and Cyprus try to weaponize their EU membership, its not necessarily just them, a lot of EU states throw around weight against non EU states to settle vendettas, Bulgaria for example is harassing Macedonia by saying if you want to be EU, you need to accept that your language isn't real and just a dialect of Bulgarian. The Baltics are harassing Serbia over relations with Russia etc etc.
 
You are taking it to lightly. I really dont like this move. This is a step back for us in the diplomatic sector.

South-Cyprus will see this as a opportunity to attrack businessmen and investments from Turkmenistan, Kazachstan, Uzbekistan and Kirgizia. And North-Cyprus is isolated again.

Traitor-nations. We should kick them out from the Organisation of Turkic States.

When the US and Israel recognized Western Sahara as a part of Morocco, the nations of Pakistan, Algeria, Mauritania, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan should have recognized North Cyprus.

We are not lobbying good.

IMO the Solution in Northern Cyprus is simple, you just have to have more Turks on that Island than Greeks, and all this talk of the Greeks and "unifying" the island will disappear overnight. If the Turks are a majority on the Island and then call for "Unification", watch how fast the Greeks run from the concept.

Right now the Greek Cypriot population is around 700,000 and the Turkish Cypriot population on the Island is around 150,000. There are around 650,000(and descendats) Turkish Cypriots in Turkey who are muhacirs who left the Island during various times, whether when the British Took it over or when there were troubles on the Island and they left for safety and never returned. In addition to the 300,000-400,000 who moved to the UK during British Rule.

If there is a concerted effort to have Diaspora Cypriot Turks move to Northern Cyrprus. Whether Financial incentives or otherwise, and there is an integration of Northern Cyprus's economy and transportation infrastructure with Turkey, this would facilitate people going back home.

you don't necessarily even have to move every single one of them back. If there is a significant amount that move back, where the idea the Greeks have of ruling over the Turks on the Island or subjugating them as a minority population is not viable, the Greeks themselves will move to abandon any "Unification" as then Unification to them will be seen as a demographic threat as there will be enough turks to where they cannot dictate things or outright they may not even have a majority to rule. If/When the Greeks abandon the matter themselves then recognition is far more streamlined.
 
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Italians and Brits disputing over workshare of the GCAP

There may be potential delays like with the FCAS program.

Turkey's KAAN seems to be the only one outside of China and the US that is progressing.

 
This is very interesting, there were rumors of Iran supplying drones to Sudan but this is the first time we are seeing air defense radars supplied.

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Italians and Brits disputing over workshare of the GCAP

There may be potential delays like with the FCAS program.

Turkey's KAAN seems to be the only one outside of China and the US that is progressing.



lol

A lot off Ksa boys are disappointed, we are going for the 6gen with ToT :ROFLMAO:, making fun off Kaan. What funny is that UK is the country who do not want Ksa and not Japan, so we learned againg that high sensitive technology is not to buy but working hard.
 
It’s very normal for the Chief of Staff to say that. He is the Chief of Staff and his job is to defend the country.

No problem. I dont know our hysteric media reacted to this, but the media are hysteric in every country.
I find this whole thing ridiculous. Check this out:

Turkey newspaper writes in its front page: “Missile buildup in the Aegean. Will Exocet be used against Turkey?”, while Hurriyet notes that Greece is planning an additional Belharra frigate. Similarly, Haberturk highlights France’s purchase of anti-ship missiles, presenting the developments as part of a hostile strategy against Ankara.

In a CNN Turk broadcast, analysts expressed the view that “Greece is threatening us with weapons,” but stressed that Turkey now has its own missiles with a range of 1,000 kilometers that “will reach 5,000.” In the same broadcast, statements by Greek Chief of the General Staff Dimitris Houpis, who referred to Turkey as a threat and said that Greece can react anywhere within five minutes, were described as “scandalous.”

Turkish commentators echoed the claim of French influence in the Eastern Mediterranean through Greece, while analyst Joskun Basbug argued that “Israel seeks to use Greece and Greek Cypriots against Turkey”. He even referred to alleged attempts to include Egypt in this axis, adding: “They go and arm the entire Aegean from Alexandroupoli to Crete, even Kastelorizo – which is actually ours!”


According to Turkish media, Greece and Israel recently planned to lay a cable east of Kasos and Karpathos, with Ankara claiming that the area falls within the Turkish continental shelf and describing how Athens “postponed the project after a reaction from the Turkish defence ministry.”



This is the quote about Kastelorizo that I kept asking hyperman if he agrees with,but he has been avoiding to give a clear reply. Of course an analyst's claims have no significance,but sometimes the AKP government adopts suchs claims and positions.
 
This is very interesting, there were rumors of Iran supplying drones to Sudan but this is the first time we are seeing air defense radars supplied.

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Which side? Logically the government side.
 
I find this whole thing ridiculous. Check this out:

Turkey newspaper writes in its front page: “Missile buildup in the Aegean. Will Exocet be used against Turkey?”, while Hurriyet notes that Greece is planning an additional Belharra frigate. Similarly, Haberturk highlights France’s purchase of anti-ship missiles, presenting the developments as part of a hostile strategy against Ankara.

In a CNN Turk broadcast, analysts expressed the view that “Greece is threatening us with weapons,” but stressed that Turkey now has its own missiles with a range of 1,000 kilometers that “will reach 5,000.” In the same broadcast, statements by Greek Chief of the General Staff Dimitris Houpis, who referred to Turkey as a threat and said that Greece can react anywhere within five minutes, were described as “scandalous.”

Turkish commentators echoed the claim of French influence in the Eastern Mediterranean through Greece, while analyst Joskun Basbug argued that “Israel seeks to use Greece and Greek Cypriots against Turkey”. He even referred to alleged attempts to include Egypt in this axis, adding: “They go and arm the entire Aegean from Alexandroupoli to Crete, even Kastelorizo – which is actually ours!”


According to Turkish media, Greece and Israel recently planned to lay a cable east of Kasos and Karpathos, with Ankara claiming that the area falls within the Turkish continental shelf and describing how Athens “postponed the project after a reaction from the Turkish defence ministry.”



This is the quote about Kastelorizo that I kept asking hyperman if he agrees with,but he has been avoiding to give a clear reply. Of course an analyst's claims have no significance,but sometimes the AKP government adopts suchs claims and positions.

Yes, there are sadly maximalists and hyper-nationalists on both sides in the media for years.

A Greco-Turkish war benefits only the US because they will sell ammunition to both sides and offcourse Russia because the Straits and the Bosphorus will turn in real chaos.
 
This is very interesting, there were rumors of Iran supplying drones to Sudan but this is the first time we are seeing air defense radars supplied.

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This is good news. They already partioned Sudan with the creation of South Sudan, and now they wanna cut Sudan again in parts.

Turkey and Iran are supporting Sudan against the UAE-fantasyplan, like they did in Libya against UAE-mercenary Haftar.

We must be ready for more ‘coloured revolutions’ and ‘rebel uprisings’ in Iran, Turkey, Algeria, Somalia, Mali, Mauretania, Jemen, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria etc.

Comoromised countries like Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain are safe.
 
lol

A lot off Ksa boys are disappointed, we are going for the 6gen with ToT :ROFLMAO:, making fun off Kaan. What funny is that UK is the country who do not want Ksa and not Japan, so we learned againg that high sensitive technology is not to buy but working hard.

nah the KSA people are generally respectful towards Turkey, its the Emirati ones that talk smack. Turkey is courting KSA for the KAAN, its possible they can join project.
 
Which side? Logically the government side.

Yes, Sudan is the one place, Turkey, Iran and even Saudi and Egpyt, are all on the same page, which is that the Emiratis are creating BS with Hemeti and the Janjaweed. All largely support the Govt, some more than others. Turkey and Iran have offered more help than the other two, but everyone agrees to support the Govt.

Emiratis, Haftar and Israel are supporting the Janjaweed and Hemeti, and Idk what Greece's stance is, but knowing they seem to decide to support anyone Turkey is opposing, and its seems all their friends are supporting Hemeti so I wouldn't be surprised.
 
Yes, Sudan is the one place, Turkey, Iran and even Saudi and Egpyt, are all on the same page, which is that the Emiratis are creating BS with Hemeti and the Janjaweed. All largely support the Govt, some more than others. Turkey and Iran have offered more help than the other two, but everyone agrees to support the Govt.

Emiratis, Haftar and Israel are supporting the Janjaweed and Hemeti, and Idk what Greece's stance is, but knowing they seem to decide to support anyone Turkey is opposing, and its seems all their friends are supporting Hemeti so I wouldn't be surprised.
No,I think we are neutral on this. We're not involved.
 
Massive trade with Armenia. Evaluation of the Margara-Allijan ground passage. Building the Gyumri-Kars railway. Restoration of the historic Ani bridge. These all are on the border.

Armenia is asking for full restoration of the bilateral relations.

This is a good opportunity to welcome Armenia in the Turkish hemisphere, like we did with Georgia and Azerbaijan.

But we are afraid of dat slumby moneylaundering dictator of Aliyev.

Azerbaijan is supporting Israel for its own interests. They dont asked permission from Turkey. So Turkey should think about its own interests without asking permission from Aliyev.

 

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