Turkish UAV/UCAV Projects

I don’t think it will be very efficient; it will probably remain just a prototype. The use of two jet engines significantly increases the cost.

The important thing is that Turkiye has these technologies from turbojet engines to platforms and electronics-avionics

in a war , we can produce them ourselves even if there is no support from any country


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KZ-350 kamikaze Drone can operate without being dependent on external reference signals (GPS/GNSS). Thanks to specially designed avionics and visual odometry algorithms

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and IDEALAP mini turbojet engines will be enough to power the KZ-350 kamikaze Drone with range of 350 km
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1 x IDEALAP IL170 turbojet engine power the KEMANKES mini Cruise Missile with range of 150 km
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Baykar CEO Haluk Bayraktar makes a clear point: artillery shells are expensive, FPV drones are cheap and effective.“The price of a 155 mm artillery shell is approximately 2,500 USD. The maximum price of an FPV drone is 1,000 USD.” — Bayraktar.The difference isn’t just in cost. An artillery shell follows a ballistic trajectory, locked onto a single target with one shot.An FPV drone, however, is smart: it offers automatic detection with image-based artificial intelligence, follows a desired route, and can be deployed anywhere on the battlefield.Its range is close to that of artillery; its use is far more flexible. It doesn’t rely on a howitzer, a loading line, or logistics.The result is simple: cost-effectiveness and tactical agility make FPV drones indispensable.The military equation is changing. Cheap, smart, and widespread platforms are reducing the role of expensive ammunition.This dynamic will rewrite defense strategies, supply chains, and even international arms policies.In summary: as technology becomes cheaper, the rules of warfare become cheaper too. Those who aren’t prepared will lose.

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TAI and BAE Systems collaborate in the field of UAVs

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There are rumors floating around of a followup to the Kizilelma, a drone that will come after Kizilelma, which is a tailless design with 2 larger engines and a larger design overall.
 
There are rumors floating around of a followup to the Kizilelma, a drone that will come after Kizilelma, which is a tailless design with 2 larger engines and a larger design overall.


Never have read or hear about it, but this is Baykar maybe they are working on it.
 
Never have read or hear about it, but this is Baykar maybe they are working on it.

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Turkey’s TAI, UK’s BAE Systems join forces for collaborative drone ‘opportunities’​

As part of the agreement, TAI will share its experience in unmanned aircraft development and production, while BAE Systems will support through coordination of regional sales to Europe and other regions, a TAI official told Breaking Defense.
By Agnes Helou and Tim Martin on November 07, 2025 12:04 am

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Turkish Aerospace's Anka drone, spotted at IDEX 2023, can fly for 30-plus hours at around 20,000 feet, the company says. (Lee Ferran / Breaking Defense)
BEIRUT and BELFAST — Turkey’s Turkish Aerospace Industries and the UK’s BAE Systems have inked a plan to team up and assess “joint opportunities” related to developing drones.

“We have signed a strategic Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with BAE Systems to collaborate on the development of uncrewed air systems,” TAI said in a Thursday post on its X account.

The firm added that under the MoU, both firms “will target joint opportunities in the field of future uncrewed air systems.”

The new agreement “will see both organisations determine objectives, responsibilities and goals to explore opportunities to collaborate in uncrewed air systems (fixed wing, rotary and hybrid) and related technologies,” a BAE Systems spokesperson said.

A TAI official told Breaking Defense that as part of the pact, TAI will share its experience in unmanned aircraft development and production, while BAE Systems will support through coordination of regional sales to Europe and other regions. The agreement between the two firms will cover TAI’s entire UAV product range and not a single aircraft, the official said.

“It’s a long-term process, and we are still at the very beginning. Both companies will act jointly — we have the UAVs, and they have the connections. Together, we’ll see what can be achieved,” the official said.

The agreement comes amid Turkey’s increasing defense ties with Europe, exemplified by its recent deal to procure 20 Eurofighter Typhoons worth $10.7 billion, and after Spain’s cabinet approved the procurement of 45 Hurjet trainers worth $3.62 billion. In July, TAI inked a strategic partnership agreement with Airbus, formalizing the collaboration on joint production of the Hurjet.

For BAE, the latest drone tie up with TAI comes two months after it announced plans, under the company’s FalconWorks rapid prototyping division, to link arms with Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works to codevelop a family of autonomous drones, beginning with an aircraft equipped with electronic attack capabilities.

FalconWorks drone portfolio also includes the fixed wing Koios Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) system, the Malloy Aeronautics produced T-Series all electric designed, heavy lift cargo type and the PHASA-35 High Altitude Pseudo Satellite (HAPS) platform.

BAE is also set to flight test an Autonomous Collaborative Platform (ACP) in the next year, after revealing a design of the drone wingman in 2024, according to Flight Global.

The ACP program is guided by the UK’s strategic defense review and is based around the premise of acquiring systems that are capable of collaborating with in-service and future generations of combat aircraft, like the trilateral Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP) sixth-generation platform, while also being able to operate off British aircraft carriers.

The latest European-Turkish drone partnership also bears similarity to Italy’s Leonardo and Turkish prime Baykar’s move to establish a drone joint venture, in a bid to take advantage of a European aerial uncrewed systems market valued in excess of $100 billion.
 
Uk saw the potential market for the drone like the Italians and want ther share, ther eurodrone failed so they are in urgent need. Look to the German army staff they want Turkish drone but ther political leaders do not want it. Everybody in Europe will buy it from JV companies from BEA or Leonardo with European name on it with EU parts.

Only ther Germand and France, Greece should be banned...:cool:
 
There are rumors floating around of a followup to the Kizilelma, a drone that will come after Kizilelma, which is a tailless design with 2 larger engines and a larger design overall.

I think it's a project as important as KAAN
Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with a tailless design can change balance of power in the region even against the F-35 .... also Russia can not match with it

also we can use it on MUGEM Aircraft Carrier

16 meters Real stealth Fighter Jet but unmanned
It would be a game changer if something like this .. and BAYKAR can develop it
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and We won't have any trouble with the Engine .. ( we have many options )

-- BAYKAR is investing to develop a turbofan engine with 20.000lb thrust ( most likely with Ukraine )
-- or 2 x TF-10.000 turbofan Engines ( indigenous )
-- or 2 x EJ-200 turbofan Engines ( from Europe - based on British Rolls Royce technology )

if needed , Italy and the UK's participation in Turkish UAV projects could make it easier to purchase Engines from Europe.
 

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