Turkish UAV/UCAV Projects

[Ak01]

Haluk Bayraktar:

The K2 kamikaze drone costs approximately 1/50 as much as conventional military guided munitions with comparable range!

It offers much faster mass production capabilities and higher production capacity compared to similar systems...

It’s a kamikaze system, but it’s not actually a single-use platform...It’s a smart system that can drop its payload and return, making it reusable if desired.

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For all the people saying just make a storm shadow. lol

so its a TB2, just one thats had its capabilities degraded! Sounds like a winning combo, since we could clearly see the success of the TB2 against proper AD...right...

 

[GoatsMilk]

so its a TB2, just one thats had its capabilities degraded! Sounds like a winning combo, since we could clearly see the success of the TB2 against proper AD...right...

TB2 was an outstanding success in many battlefieds from syria, libya, Azerbaijan, Ukraine and a few other places it was deployed.

Its a cheap tactical drone that turned into an international success because of its immense battlefield achievements.

Close to a thousand units have been produced of the TB2 alone.

 

[Ak01]

TB2 was an outstanding success in many battlefieds from syria, libya, Azerbaijan, Ukraine and a few other places it was deployed.

Its a cheap tactical drone that turned into an international success because of its immense battlefield achievements.

Yea, Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan (against SHORADS which literally dont have the reach to get it). Ukraine it was pulled back from attack roles to ISR after they were getting whacked out of the sky.

Truth is the truth, no matter how much it hurts you

 

[GoatsMilk]

Yea, Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan (against SHORADS which literally dont have the reach to get it). Ukraine it was pulled back from attack roles to ISR after they were getting whacked out of the sky.

Truth is the truth, no matter how much it hurts you

TB2 turned into a global sensation and raised the image of the Turkish defence industry considerably. A cheap tactical drone did that and that tactical drone is already old old news for the Turkish defence industry.

 

[T80UD]

TB2 was an outstanding success in many battlefieds from syria, libya, Azerbaijan, Ukraine and a few other places it was deployed.

Its a cheap tactical drone that turned into an international success because of its immense battlefield achievements.

Close to a thousand units have been produced of the TB2 alone.

The only reason they were able be effective early on in the Ukraine war was because Russian armoured columns were moving faster then their AD once they caught up the TB-2 became a non factor.

As for Azerbaijan they were able to be effective because Harops and Harpys were hunting Armenian Radars

 

[GoatsMilk]

The only reason they were able be effectively early on in the Ukraine war was because Russian armoured columns were moving faster then their AD once they caught up the TB-2 became a non factor

Its a small tactical drone, Russia is 4 years into their 3 day war. But trust if Turkiye were to still deploy that drone combined with a full functioning military, its still going to be exceptionally dangerous.

But while the rest of the Muslim world is incapable of producing something like the TB2, that TB2 is old old news for where the Turkish defence industry is today.

 

[Ak01]

Its a small tactical drone, Russia is 4 years into their 3 day war. But trust if Turkiye were to still deploy that drone combined with a full functioning military, its still going to be exceptionally dangerous.

But while the rest of the Muslim world is incapable of producing something like the TB2, that TB2 is old old news for where the Turkish defence industry is today.

man, the delusion is so strong here

 

[GoatsMilk]

man, the delusion is so strong here

obviously you got a complex. Lots of shia's do when it concerns their previous Turkic masters.

 

[Ak01]

obviously you got a complex. Lots of shia's do when it concerns their previous Turkic masters.

You wish.

Not a shia. Cope harder.

 

[MMM-E]

The K2 is literally a TB2 with less fancy kit and more fuel tanks.

The K-2 is 50 times cheaper than TB-2


1 -- Thanks to the GNSS system, it will not be subject to electronic jamming.

2 -- With the support of artificial intelligence, interruptions in communication will also be impossible

3 -- highly intelligent platform equipped with advanced artificial intelligence and autonomy algorithms with EO/IR gimbal Camera



Compared to the TB-2, it has the capability for much faster mass production and a higher production capacity for 50 times cheaper price

2.000+ km range with warhead of 200 kg

to produce 50 K-2 kamikaze Drones in price of 1 TB-2 for swarm attack

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BAYKAR produces everything in-house, from the engine to the software. There's no need anything from abroad at high prices.

Its pretty pathetic that you want to die on this hill that the storm shadow, a LO, highly intelligent CM is less survivable than a low cost MALE drone lol.

Greece can go and pay $3 million for buying a SCALP-EG Cruise Missile
We are not stupid , Turks have advanced defense industry for more options for more cheaper price

 

[hyperman]

Your post is a piss poor cop out full of copium.

The K2 is literally a TB2 with less fancy kit and more fuel tanks.

We have seen the survivability (or lack thereof) of the TB2 in contested environments.

Its pretty pathetic that you want to die on this hill that the storm shadow, a LO, highly intelligent CM is less survivable than a low cost MALE drone lol.

Ukraine is another poor cop out, do you, or the prospective customers have the ISR backing that Ukraine does? Ukraine will be receiving regular data on SAM batteries and their placements, allowing the operators to plan profiles to avoid them. So please, spare us the cope and the "Wow, you seem to have it all figured out, Baykar engineers wasted all that effort for nothing. lol". Because by this exact logic, nobody is allowed to be critical and everything would work as intended. Who are we to say the pantsir is a poor system, do you know more about missile design than the engineers who worked on it? Give it a break.

Reading comprehension isn't your strongpoint is it?

You read this

"These things are case dependent."

and then decided to extrapolate it to this

"a LO, highly intelligent CM is less survivable than a low cost MALE drone."

Are there scenarios where this new drone would be a better use case and a better chance of hitting a target?

Yes

Can the Storm shadow launch itself? No

Can the aircraft that lauch storm shadows use the surfaces that this new drone can launch from? like say a random field? No

Are there scenarios where there is denial of air fields for aircraft to take off and launch storm shadows? Yes

so again.. it goes back to "These things are case dependent."

 

[MMM-E]

Yea, Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan (against SHORADS which literally dont have the reach to get it). Ukraine it was pulled back from attack roles to ISR after they were getting whacked out of the sky.

Truth is the truth, no matter how much it hurts you

TB-2 used 8km MAM-Laser guided munition while PANTSIR , BUK , TOR have longer range Missiles up to 20-40 km

still TB-2 destroyed 40+ AD Systems

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The 50 TB-2 wouldn't have been able to withstand Russia for long anyway.

btw , Russia used Fighter Jets to stop the TB-2 UCAVs
as like NATO uses Fighter Jets to stop even dumb Shaded-136 not to attack American-British-French targets in Cyprus

 

[hyperman]

Who are we to say the pantsir is a poor system

Its not a poor system.

Its dependent on operating environment.

 

[kimjongun]

Do you remember the polemics against the TB2? they mocked it as a useless flying cessna. how did that turn out?

We have TB2 sized drones being used RIGHT NOW, in Ukraine.

Do you know why people are not using Reaper size drones as loitering muntions????
It costs a lot to fly these things and using a highly sophisticated large drone with "AI" as LM is not a good way to look at things , there is a reason drone swarms using ai have small form factor.

 

[hyperman]

Do you know why people are not using Reaper size drones as loitering muntions????
It costs a lot to fly these things and using a highly sophisticated large drone with "AI" as LM is not a good way to look at things , there is a reason drone swarms using ai have small form factor.

You know a TB2 is not a reaper sized drone right?

The Reaper is more like an Akinci sized drone, and far more sophisticated than a TB2. You can look at the price point for both, to see the difference between a TB2 and a reaper.

Secondly, As I mentioned before... TB2 sides drones are LITERALLY BEING USED IN UKRAINE

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Do some research, Baykar was inspired by the tactical Data Ukraine has been sharing with Baykar as part of the strategic partnership. There is a Baykar factory in Ukraine as well, and Baykar is collaborating Ukraine in drone research and production.

The Baykar drone is based on the study case of the Antonov An‑196 “Lyutyy”(which Ukraine has been using for long range Kamikazi strikes DEEP into Russia with much success), which itself is an adaptation of the TB2.

Baykar took that concept and used the R&D knowledge that its been building for swarms and AI and integrated that into the new drone, to make a smarter strike option.