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[fameen]

You don't care,but that's all you talk about. All morning today you've been yapping about Yunan ve Israil.


You do know all that can change easily,right? Especially with this US administration and the fragmentations in the EU.

If, in fact, you are Greek then you will also know that despite the Greek government's cosy relationship with Netanyahu the majority public opinion does not support Israel. And if, in fact, the US leaves NATO which effectively it has already - not least by threatening Greenland, then Greece will come under pressure to bury its differences with Turkey. Turkey will become an even more important pillar of European defence.

The Israelis are using Turkish-Greek rivalry to their benefit... just as they are using the Pak-India rivalry. None of this suits any of us.

As for Pakistan and Turkey... it's not at all unlikely that Turkey will be the second Muslim nation to acquire nuclear capability, to Pakistan and Pakistanis delight.

 

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What are the impossible dreams? Figuring out diplomatic or defensive alliances to counter a bully who thinks he should be in charge of the whole region?

to kick all bandit Countries and their terrorists everywhere

Israel couldn't drive the Palestinians to the SINAI/Egypt
NO ROJAVA in Syria
NO DAVID corridor from Iraq to Israel
NO PKK victory in Turkiye
NO EASTMED project in the eastern Mediterranean
NO Electrical cable project in the eastern Mediteranean
NO ENOSIS in Cyprus
NO 12 miles in the Aegean
NO more attack on Tripoli in Libya
NO regime change in Iran
NO Somaliland against Turkiye-Somalia

Many actors, including Türkiye, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the European Union, and the African Union, have declared their support for Somalia's territorial integrity.


S.Arabia , Syria , Iraq , Libya , Lebanon , Qatar , Egypt , Kuwait , etc are working with Turkiye

The region is with Turkiye

 

[Foinikas]

If, in fact, you are Greek then you will also know that despite the Greek government's cosy relationship with Netanyahu the majority public opinion does not support Israel. And if, in fact, the US leaves NATO which effectively it has already - not least by threatening Greenland, then Greece will come under pressure to bury its differences with Turkey. Turkey will become an even more important pillar of European defence.

If USA leaves NATO,things might be even worse for Turkey. As USA will be able to more freely attack Turkey in coordination with Israel and the rest of NATO will be divided about protecting Turkey against the US and Israel.

In the EU there are countries like France,Greece,Cyprus and probably some of the Scandinavians,who are against Turkish expansionism and disagree with the German block. Scandinavians probably see the Turks as too cozy with Putin and don't trust them.

The Israelis are using Turkish-Greek rivalry to their benefit... just as they are using the Pak-India rivalry. None of this suits any of us.

And you think we're not "using" them? After decades of Turkish-Israeli friendship and cooperation,they are now enemies. They are selling us weapons and systems that we need and they seem ok with giving some ToT as well. Bhai,let me remind you that Pakistan cooperated with atheist,dictatoric Maoist China in the '70s and '80s when the US put sanctions and betrayed Pakistan,right when Pakistan needed help against India. Pakistan cooperated with China and bought weapons,got valuable ToT and later even co-production.

As for Pakistan and Turkey... it's not at all unlikely that Turkey will be the second Muslim nation to acquire nuclear capability, to Pakistan and Pakistanis delight.

Only a Pakistani who would put Turkey first,would want a nuclear Turkey. Some of you guys don't want to hear that,but it's true. Pakistan's biggest card militarily and in the world scene,is that it's the only muslim country with nuclear weapons. Turkey is more cunning and energetic in diplomacy and has been very ambitious the last 15 years to gain more influence everywhere. If they were to acquire nuclear weapons,Pakistan would become irrelevant,insignificant and my guess,probably even treated as second rate by Turkey in the future.

 

[Foinikas]

to kick all bandit Countries and their terrorists everywhere

Israel couldn't drive the Palestinians to the SINAI/Egypt
NO ROJAVA in Syria
NO DAVID corridor from Iraq to Israel
NO PKK victory in Turkiye
NO EASTMED project in the eastern Mediterranean
NO Electrical cable project in the eastern Mediteranean
NO ENOSIS in Cyprus
NO 12 miles in the Aegean
NO more attack on Tripoli in Libya
NO regime change in Iran
NO Somaliland against Turkiye-Somalia

Many actors, including Türkiye, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Arab League, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the European Union, and the African Union, have declared their support for Somalia's territorial integrity.


S.Arabia , Syria , Iraq , Libya , Lebanon , Qatar , Egypt , Kuwait , etc are working with Turkiye

The region is with Turkiye

If I had 1 euro every time you repeated the same bull,I'd have a new PC by now. Can you deposit 1 euro to my account every time you do that,please?

 

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If I had 1 euro every time you repeated the same bull,I'd have a new PC by now. Can you deposit 1 euro to my account every time you do that,please?

Yes same thing about your silly posts like this

 

[hyperman]

Why? You couldn't shoot down three ballistic missiles(or was it four?)on your own. What makes you think you're so special?

Yes, Turkey is completely a lightweight militarily. lol, hope you sincerely believe these delusions, its better for Turkey's enemies to think Turkey is incapable.

1.That doesn't mean you can use American nukes for own purposes and especially against Israel.

And Who said Turkey is expecting the US to provide it with Nukes against Israel? I'm demonstrating the example of Nuclear Weapons sharing, Turkish F-16s were equipped and pilots were trained for a Cold War event where they would be dropping them on the Soviet Union for decades.

Russia is the biggest nuclear power,did they provide a nuclear umbrella for Iran?

Russia and Iran don't have the relationship that Turkey does. Russia denied the S-300s to Iran over Israeli objection and to cater to Israelis. Russia isn't really a strategic ally of Iran's despite whatever "Axis of Resistance" fanboys have in their minds about Iran, China and Russia all in some sort of alliance. So this is an apples and oranges comparison.

 

[Eşbah]

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[LeonBlack08]

I understand what you're saying and in terms of strategy,I mean if you really look at it from a survival point,it only makes sense that Turkey is next. Because they know that if Turkey keeps getting stronger,with the current administration,with the current leaders it has,the Israelis will have big problems.

But then again,I won't be surprised if they both become friends and have some sort of deal for Turkey to expand westwards and to Africa and Israel eastwards and the levant.

Unless there is a change in the Turkish government with someone who is in Zionist pocket, I doubt things will go back to like it was before. It's difficult to comeback from statements like that. Especially when it's coming from former and possibly the next Israeli PM Naftali Bennet.

Every single war Israel made America commit to, started with a seed decades ago. They did it with Iraq, and now with Iran. They talked about WMD for years and used media manipulation to vilify the target country, to buy domestic and international support for the war. That is their modus operandi. They are trying to do the same with Turkey now. The war won't come anytime soon though, may be in 10 years time. But you will see an increased vilification of Turkey in the coming years. Once they manage to push Turkey out of NATO, then we will know for certain that the war is imminent.

 

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This image is a result of Israel's expansionist policy and illegal actions in the region

Israel has become security issue for whole region


Syria
Lebanon
Palestine
Iran
were under attack by Israel who hiding behind USA and attack like mangy dog

If it weren't for the USA, then Israel can't do anything

 

[Foinikas]

Unless there is a change in the Turkish government with someone who is in Zionist pocket, I doubt things will go back to like it was before. It's difficult to comeback from statements like that. Especially when it's coming from former and possibly the next Israeli PM Naftali Bennet.

I agree

The war won't come anytime soon though, may be in 10 years time. But you will see an increased vilification of Turkey in the coming years. Once they manage to push Turkey out of NATO, then we will know for certain that the war is imminent.

In 10 years it will be too late for the Israelis to defeat Turkey,if Turkey continues at this pace and I think they know them. But man,Turkey doesn't need much of vilification in the region,
it already acts like a bully with neo-imperialist ambitions. They're a good match for each other. Misak-i-Millet vs Eretz Israel.

 

[PakAl]

In 10 years it will be too late for the Israelis to defeat Turkey,if Turkey continues at this pace and I think they know them. But man,Turkey doesn't need much of vilification in the region,
it already acts like a bully with neo-imperialist ambitions. They're a good match for each other. Misak-i-Millet vs Eretz Israel.

I dont think behind the scenes Turks and Israelis are enemies or want to harm each other, its more of a disagreements on who controls what, the same way EU and Usa have differences. I am not blaming Turkey aswell since the Arabs have alot of hate for the Turks and collaborated with the allies to kick the Ottomans out. Regarding Turkey military, no doubt in 10 years they will become very powerful, Kaan will be deadly, they also will have 1000s of ballistic and cruise missiles, really modern and strong navy. But Israel and Usa in 10 years will be inducting 6th generation plane so Kaan will be one generation behind, unless ofcourse Turkey upgrades it to near 6th generation level.

 

[Foinikas]

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This is the kind of fake news Ertugrul fanboy Pakistanis and,pardon me @LeonBlack08 Bangladeshis as well eat up eagerly.

“We aren’t like Israel. They established a military alliance with Greece and Cyprus against the Muslim countries."

What is this misinformation by Fidan again? Which are the "Muslim countries" Greece and Cyprus are against,apart from Turkey?

"We, unlike Israel, try to end the conflicts in the region, stabilise it. We seek that”

Fidan perhaps forgot about his own country's major role in de-stabilizing Syria for 12 years and the meddling of Turkey in Libya,Sudan and Nagorno-Karabakh.

Despite the usual narrative by Erdogan,Fidan and others of "we only want peace,we only want to end conflicts",everything is done for profit,influence and geopolitical gain,

Don't tell me Turkey sold and/or donated weapons to the Sudanese government out of their good heart. Don't tell me they went to Somalia,because they cared for the poor Somalis engulfed in bitter civil wars and terror for decades. You can't tell me Turkey caused the fall of Assad because they cared for the Syrian Arabs and not because they wanted to replace the government with a Muslim Brotherhood vassal and kick out the Kurds who were troublesome.

Come on....

 

[Anatolia]

I dont think behind the scenes Turks and Israelis are enemies or want to harm each other, its more of a disagreements on who controls what, the same way EU and Usa have differences. I am not blaming Turkey aswell since the Arabs have alot of hate for the Turks and collaborated with the allies to kick the Ottomans out. Regarding Turkey military, no doubt in 10 years they will become very powerful, Kaan will be deadly, they also will have 1000s of ballistic and cruise missiles, really modern and strong navy. But Israel and Usa in 10 years will be inducting 6th generation plane so Kaan will be one generation behind, unless ofcourse Turkey upgrades it to near 6th generation level.

The whole region is a potential enemy. Israelis , Arabs and others.
And like before, Turks will always win. Maybe not right away, or every battle, but the end result is always end up being good for the average Turk than a Israeli or Arab.

 

[Eşbah]

 

[Eşbah]

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lol