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[Eşbah]

Unfortunately, we need to start this thread and gather all discussions about this topic in one place.

Hopefully, we won't need to shift this topic to the defense section of our forum, but for the time being, the disagreement between the Zionist regime on the one hand and Turkey on the other is still political in nature and, most importantly, through proxies.

However, the situation is very fluid and and prone to sudden changes.

Currently, the Netanyahu regime is trying to instrumentalize Greece and Southern Cyprus.

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[Eşbah]

NEW/IMPORTANT — In recent days, two meetings were held between high-level Greek, Cypriot, and Israeli military officials—one in Tel Aviv and one outside Israel.

Critical topics regarding the Eastern Mediterranean were discussed in the meetings.

The meetings were held at Israel's request as a "response" to Ankara's plans in the region.

Israel expressed its concerns to the TRNC and Greek administrations regarding the possibility of Turkey "locking" the air routes in the Mediterranean.

Israel is concerned about Turkey increasing its air presence in the region or intensifying its radar and air defense systems; attention is drawn to Turkey's south and to Syria.

Israel is worried that these steps could affect its freedom of movement in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East.

Turkey's potential moves could obstruct the flights of Israeli warplanes to Syria and Iran.

For this reason, the parties are developing their military cooperation.

Last week, Israeli infantry units came to Greece's Kilkis city and conducted urban warfare exercises with the Greek army's 71st Air Assault Brigade.

Israel will participate in the Greek Air Force's "Iniochos" air exercise.

- Sources | Kathimerini -

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[Foinikas]

Unfortunately, we need to start this thread and gather all discussions about this topic in one place.

Hopefully, we won't need to shift this topic to the defense section of our forum, but for the time being, the disagreement between the Zionist regime on the one hand and Turkey on the other is still political in nature and, most importantly, through proxies.

However, the situation is very fluid and and prone to sudden changes.

Currently, the Netanyahu regime is trying to instrumentalize Greece and Southern Cyprus.

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Allow me two points:

1.Wasn't it a "Zionist regime" before 2010 and before 2024? When Turkey had excellent relations with Israel,wasn't it a "Zionist regime" then?
2.You said that currently Netanyahu is trying to instrumentalize Greece and Cyprus. Hasn't Turkey done the same with Syria and Libya? Weren't you moving pro-Turkish rebel forces from Syria to Libya and from Libya to Syria and both partly to Azerbaijan?

 

[Eşbah]

Explain me one thing: Why is Israel worried about Turkey's AD capabilities and capacities in an around Turkey?

Why are the Zionists worried about Turkey's MIC in general? Are they planning something that we aren't aware of?

 

[Watandar]

Explain me one thing: Why is Israel worried about Turkey's AD capabilities and capacities in an around Turkey?

Why are the Zionists worried about Turkey's MIC in general? Are they planning something that we aren't aware of?

Zios want complete domination of the region and see Turkey as a potential challenger. So I think one Zio play is to enable Greece/Cyprus against Turkey. Another is to breakup Syria and have a Kurdish client state that can also be used to needle Turkey.

Both to me seem very long term Zio plans like next 20 to 30 years.

 

[Ghaznavi101]

Hasn't Turkey done the same with Syria and Libya? Weren't you moving pro-Turkish rebel forces from Syria to Libya and from Libya to Syria and both partly to Azerbaijan?

Yeaaaa.. With Syria and Libya. Had nothing to do with messing Israel, Greece or Cyprus over; as is the case here. That's Turkiye's own security concerns to make sure there's no fall outs, from the crap that Israel and the US created.

For OP, besides Israel, I would not worry about the other 2. Useless at best. You can't go to war for 4 hours a day then take a break. LOL

 

[Auqab13]

Allow me two points:

1.Wasn't it a "Zionist regime" before 2010 and before 2024? When Turkey had excellent relations with Israel,wasn't it a "Zionist regime" then?
2.You said that currently Netanyahu is trying to instrumentalize Greece and Cyprus. Hasn't Turkey done the same with Syria and Libya? Weren't you moving pro-Turkish rebel forces from Syria to Libya and from Libya to Syria and both partly to Azerbaijan?

So? It's the Muslims' region, they should do as they please. Israel has no credence in the region, yet, they are shoving domination down everyone's throats. Turkey SHOULD threat hen them.

However those threats are soft and not direct. Syria was war gamed between America, Russia, and Turkey. Turkey although successful in most of it's objectives, Accomplished very little compared to what America and by extension what Israel was able to accomplish. We have CIA lapdog running Syria now, cuddling up with Jews in America, and elsewhere.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/syria-registers-first-jewish-organization-nations-history


I swear you greeks are starting to become like indians. Phull Saaport Saar.

 

[Foinikas]

Zios want complete domination of the region and see Turkey as a potential challenger. So I think one Zio play is to enable Greece/Cyprus against Turkey. Another is to breakup Syria and have a Kurdish client state that can also be used to needle Turkey.

Both to me seem very long term Zio plans like next 20 to 30 years.

The Kurdish State issue has been on the works for decades.

Yeaaaa.. With Syria and Libya. Had nothing to do with messing Israel, Greece or Cyprus over; as is the case here. That's Turkiye's own security concerns to make sure there's no fall outs,

In the same yeah,Israeli see it as their own security concerns.

For OP, besides Israel, I would not worry about the other 2. Useless at best. You can't go to war for 4 hours a day then take a break. LOL

Truly,you must be so ignorant on the matter if you think it's another one of those "we will have tea in Islamabad" cases.

 

[Eşbah]

NEW — Israeli retired Colonel and former Deputy Chairman of the National Security Council Itamar Yaar:

“We are concerned about Turkey’s presence; I’m talking about from Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza.”

“If Turkish soldiers are in Gaza, our flexibility to halt anti-Israel activities will be limited.”

“In this scenario, there would be a risk that NATO member Turkish soldiers could be harmed on our side—either accidentally or not.”

“The Turks are trying to gain influence in the region; they’ve already gained it after Iran’s withdrawal from Syria and Lebanon, but now they’re trying to enter areas where they previously had no influence.”

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They're terrified about the potential presence of Turkish soldiers in Gaza.

 

[hasssanali8998]

there would be a risk that NATO member Turkish soldiers could be harmed on our sid

this has to count as a threat right , i hope turkey will not let anything slide they will only stop if hit back

 

[Foinikas]

So? It's the Muslims' region, they should do as they please.

What kind of logic is that? Just listen to what you're saying: "It's the Muslims' region,they should do as they please". With that logic,should Muslim countries in the Balkans have no say,because "it's Christians' region"?

I swear you greeks are starting to become like indians. Phull Saaport Saar.

First of all,don't be so offensive.

Second,when the PRC first started selling weapons to you and sharing technology which was crucial to Pakistan's defence industry,back in 1962 and 1966,because you both had the Indian threat next to you,did you say "Screw them,we don't want any commie help,they are Maoists,they are oppressing our Uyghur Muslim brothers"?

You had a with India in 1965 and 1971. Tell me,when the Americans started boycotting you and not giving you any spare parts or ammunition when you were at war and the Chinese were providing you help with your nuclear program and kept selling you weapons to defend against any possible Indian attack,did you say "Don't trust them,they are atheists. We don't want help from you Mao,you killed millions of people for your revolution"?

When you have actual government members of a neighboring country go like "We might one night,suddenly..." and "we'll throw you to the sea,like your ancestors" and repeating that again and again (period from 2021 to early 2023) or saying things like "Athens is in range of our missiles",do you rely on goodwill or the illusion that NATO membership will save you or do you form any alliances you can,to thwart any attempt against your sovereign territory and rights?

 

[hussain0216]

Israel is a unnatural state

It's position in the middle east is artificial and built on the back of the U.S and Europe or at least some European countries

The real powers in the middle east are

Turkey (Ottomans)
Iran (Safavids)
Egypt (

And for Israel to survive it needs to dominate the region through the U.S especially and this has resulted in CHAOS in the middle east with . multiple wars and conflict and attacks and U.S foreign policy used to safeguard Israel to the detriment.of the entire region



Israel is worried that times are changing, Europe already is fading for various reasons and the writing is on the wall with the U.S although that's quite a way off
They are worried about the rise of Turkey, Iran and Egypt and will do whatever it takes to destabilize the middle east and these countries and the growth in power of Turkey, Egypt or Iran

All three countries need to plan and be smart to counter this threat


The countries of the middle east in a way have understood Israel is a U.S protectorate and may eventually go and have thus continued ancient rivalries against each other,the Arabs especially have been more concerned about Iran and Turkey then Israel even though Israel has been the cause of death of many Arabs

Things need to change

 

[Ibbi32]

Cyprus needs to stop choosing to be the next battleground

 

[Eşbah]

this has to count as a threat right , i hope turkey will not let anything slide they will only stop if hit back

Yeah but they are lying. They can't kill NATO soldiers and create a precedent for Russia in 2026. They fight tooth and nail against Turkish soldiers exactly for that reason.

 

[Foinikas]

Yeah but they are lying. They can't kill NATO soldiers and create a precedent for Russia in 2026. They fight tooth and nail against Turkish soldiers exactly for that reason.

The thing is that,Israelis are a big exception to the canon. You saw what they did to Gaza for two years and virtually got nothing but a "Please stop..." from the world. Some countries individually did something,but then again it wasn't enough.

Israel has the ability to get away with things other countries would be isolating them for, in the best case or have an international coalition go against them,in the worst case.

Like,Saddam invades Kuwait and in less than a year an entire coalition of countries gathers to take on Iraq. We've seen this many times. Kosovo War,Afghanistan,Iraq 2003,
Libya and now Ukraine.

How many times did they show us scenes from Ukraine's destruction talking about Russian bombardment? Israel turns Gaza into a huge junkyard and nobody does anything. They just talk. Zelensky gets all kinds of weapons and funding,Arab countries and Muslims don't even help their own.

Somehow I think Israel would get away with it,if they were to have some limited skirmishes with Turkey and most NATO members would just verbally protest.