Türkiye's NATO membership | News & Developments
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Yasser76
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Zero. Turkey does not need NATO's support to deal with Israel. That's a myth.
Our goal would be to keep other NATO members from supporting Israel. In light of the Iranian and Ukrainian War and its repercussions for Europe, I believe that even Germany would hesitate to offer assistance. On the other hand, the United States remains strongly supportive of Israel.
Yasser76
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Noticed a subtle but significant shift in NATO's and Rutte's stance on Turkiye now. They see it as vital for it's industrial base, more export approvals have also been forthcoming. Should NATO not respond to an attack on Turkiye I think that would be the end of NATO, and Trump has been saying it is largely useless anyway
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..... What about Turkiye for NATO .....
NATO's rising Military Power TURKIYE
Türkiye is NATO’s second strongest Army by active personnel - weapon inventory
and a rising power with significant regional influence, indigenous defense industry growth and increasing modernization.
Turkiye’s push for self-reliance (80%+ localization as of 2026) and 90%+ as of 2035
Here I will showcase technologies that only a few NATO countries can develop/produce 2026-2032 period
1 -- 5th gen Fighter Jet
USA : F-22 and F-35
Turkiye : KAAN ... ( also TF-35000 engine under development )
The UK and Italy have their own project GCAP for 2040s
2 -- Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
USA : YFQ-44
Turkiye : KIZILELMA
3 -- Flying-wing stealth UCAV
USA : X-47
Turkiye : ANKA-III
The UK : TARANIS
France : NEURON
4 -- Strike UCAV
USA : MQ-9
Turkiye : AKINCI
USA : MQ-9 Seaguardian (Seaspray 7500E V2 Radar with range of 320 nm - 592 km)
Turkiye : AKINCI UCAV ( FULMAR-500 AESA Radar with range of 320 nm- 592 km )
5 -- Attack Helicopter
USA : AH-64 and AH-1Z
Turkiye : T-129 and T-929
Italy : AW-249
France-Germany : Eurocopter TIGER
6 -- Utility Helicopter with Turboshaft Engine Technology in the World
USA : S-70 Black Hawk ( General Electric T700-GE-701D )
The UK : AW159 Wildcat - Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322
France : EC-725 ( Turboméca ( SAFRAN ) Makila 2A1 )
Turkiye : T-625 GOKBEY ...( TEI TS-1400turboshaft Engine )
7 -- Next gen Trainer Jet
USA : T-7
Turkiye : HURJET
8 -- High-altitude long range Air Defense System
USA : PATRIOT
France-Italy : SAMP-T
Turkiye : SIPER
9 -- Exoatmospheric Ballistic Missile Intereptor
USA : THAAD
Turkiye : SIPER-4 .. ( under development )
France-Italy : ASTER-30 Block-2 BMD .. ( under development )
10 -- Weapon Locating Radar
-- 50 km AN/TPQ-37 ... USA
-- 100 km ARTHUT ... Sweden
-- 100 km COBRA ... France
-- 250+ km SURALP ... Turkiye
11 -- Land based long range AESA Radar
-- 250 km Hensoldt TRML-4D ... GERMANY
-- 470 km Thales Ground Master 400 ... FRANCE
-- 470 km Saab GIRAFFE 8A .... SWEDEN
-- 500 km Leonardo RAT-31DL ... ITALY
-- 450-600 km Aselsan ERALP .... TURKIYE
12 -- Multi-function Naval AESA Radar
-- 320 km Raytheon AN/SPY-3 ( Zumwalt class Destroyer of the US Navy ) .... THE US
-- 400 km BAE Systems SAMPSON ( Type-45 class Destroyer of the Royal Navy ).. THE UK
-- 400 km Thales SMART-L ( Horizon class Destroyer of the French Navy ) .... FRANCE
-- 400 km Aselsan CENK-S ( ISTIF class Frigate of the Turkish Navy ) ... TURKIYE
-- 450 km Aselsan CAFRAD ( TF-2000 class Destroyer of the Turkish Navy ) ... TURKIYE
13 -- Airborne AESA Radar for Fighter Jets
USA : AN/APG-81 and AN/APG-85
Turkiye : MURAD-100A and MURAD-600A
France : RBE2
Italy : Raven ES-05
The UK : ECRS
14 -- BVR Air to Air Missile
USA : AIM-120 , AIM-260
France : MICA , METEOR
Turkiye : GOKDOGAN
Turkiye also develops 185+ km GOKBORA and 200+ GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile with active AESA radar seeker
15 -- Stand off jammer Aircraft
USA : EA-37B
Turkiye : ASOJ-23A
16 -- Primary Military Satellite Producers in NATO
USA
Turkiye
France
The UK
Germany
Italy
17 -- Advanced Frigate
The UK : Type-26
France-Italy : FREMM
Turkiye : ISTIF
Spain : F-110
Turkiye is one of a few Countries in NATO that produced its own Systems
VLS , 76-127 mm Guns , CIWS , CM System , Sonar , Radars , EW Suite , etc
18 -- Destroyer
USA : ZUMWALT
The UK : Type-45
France : HORIZON
Spain : F-100
Italy : DDX ... ( under development )
Turkiye : TF-2000 .. ( under construction )
19 -- AIP Submarine / Attack Submarine
Germany : Type-214
Spain : S-80
USA : VIRGINIA
France : BARRACUDA
The UK : ASTUTE
Turkiye : MILDEN .. ( under construction )
20 -- Aircraft Carrier
USA : Gerald R. Ford 337 m
The UK : Queen Elizabeth 284 m
France : Charles de Gaulle 261 m
Italy : TRIESTE 245 m
Turkiye : MUGEM 300 m .. ( under construction )
21 -- Tank with Engine and Transmission
USA : M1A2 Tank with Honeywell AGT1500 Engine
The UK : Challenger-2 Tank with Perkins CV12-6A Engine
Germany : Leopard-2 Tank with MTU Engine
Turkiye : ALTAY Tank with BATU Engine
( also AKKOR active protection System is sole in NATO )
22 -- VLS with Long Range SAMs
USA : MK-41 VLS .... SM-2 , SM-6 SAMs
France : SYLVER VLS .... ASTER-30 SAM
Turkiye : MILDAS VLS .... SIPER-1D SAM
23 -- Assault Amphibious Vehicle
USA : AAVP7A1
Turkiye : ZAHA
France : AMX-10P
Germany : APVT
24 -- Global Positioning System
USA : GPS
Europe : GALILEO
Turkiye : ULUGBEY .... ( with 100 Satellites within 5 years )
25 -- RAMJET for supersonic Missiles
USA
The UK
France
Germany
Turkiye
26 -- Thermobaric Bombs
USA : BLU-118/B
Turkiye : GAZAP ( WRATH )
( World’s one of most powerful non-nuclear Bomb )
GAZAP’s thermobaric blast reaches 5,432°F (3,000°C) delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold.
27 -- Ground based Hypersonic Ballistic Missile
USA : DARK EAGLE
Turkiye : TAYFUN Block4 and CENK
28 -- Short range Ballistic Missile
USA : ATACMS and PrSM
Turkiye : BORA and TAYFUN
The UK : NIGHTFALL ... ( under development )
29 -- Long range strategic Cruise Missile
USA : Tomahawk
France : MdCN
Turkiye : GEZGIN
30 -- Cruise Missile with turbojet Engine technology
USA
Turkiye
France
31 -- Guided MLRS
USA : only GPS/INS
Turkiye : GPS/INS and LASER .. ( TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 )
32 -- Air launched Ballistic Missile
USA : AGM-183 ARRW
Turkiye : 300-ER
33 -- Targetin Pod
USA : SNIPER
France : TALIOS
Turkiye : ASELPOD
34 -- Combat support auxiliary Ship
USA : John Lewis-class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 227 m )
The UK : TIDE class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 200 m )
France : Jacques Chevallier class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 194 m )
Italy : Vulcano class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 193 m )
Turkiye : TCG DERYA combat support auxiliary Ship ( 200 m )
35 -- Next Gen HMD System
USA : Collins Aerospace F-35 Gen III
The UK : BAE Systems STRIKER-2
Turkiye : Aselsan TULGAR
36 -- PDMS ( Point Defense Missile System )
USA-Germany : RIM-116 RAM ( 9 km )
Turkiye : GOKSUR-100N ( 15 km ) and LEVENT ( 11 km )
37 -- Surface-to-air Missiles developed to protect Naval Platforms
USA : 50+ km ESSM
Turkiye : 40+ km HISAR-D RF
France-Italy : 30 km ASTER-15
The UK : 45 km CAMM-ER
38 -- Heavyweight Torpedo
USA : MK48 ( 50 km and 293 kg warhead )
Germany : DM2A4 ( 50 km and 260 kg warhead )
France : F21 ( 50 km and 200 kg warhead )
The UK : Spearfish ( 56 km and 300 kg warhead )
Italy : Black Shark ( 50 km and 350 kg warhead )
Sweden : Torped62 ( 50+ km and 260 kg warhead)
Turkiye : AKYA ( 50+ km and 350 kg warhead )
39 -- Bliks and Single crystal blade technologies for gas turbine turboshaft/turbofan Engines
USA
UK
France
Turkiye
40 -- Coastal Defense System
Norway : NSM
Sweden : RBS-15 MK-III
France : EXOCET
Turkiye : BARBAROS ( ATMACA anti-ship Missile )
41 -- Modern MANPADS
USA : STINGER
France : MISTRAL
Turkiye : SUNGUR
42 -- Long range anti-Tank Missile
France : AKERON-LR ( up to 20 km )
Turkiye : UMTAS-GM Block 1 and UMTAS-GM Block 2 ( 20-50 km )
43 -- Intelligence Gathering Ship
USA : T-AGOS
France : Dupuy de Lôme (A759)
Germany : TYPE-424
Turkiye : TCG UFUK
44 -- Land based ICBMs in NATO
USA : MINUTEMAN III
Other ICBMs ... ( under development )
USA : LGM-35 SENTINEL
Turkiye joins the elite club with YILDIRIMHAN ICBM ( 6.000 km )
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There are only 4 countries in NATO that can produce state-of-the-art weapons, and Turkiye is one of them ...... ( USA , The UK , Turkiye and France )
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Top 10 nations that said they would fight for their Country
( Among NATO allies )
1) Turkiye: 88%
2) Albania: 69%
3) Sweden: 66%
4) Finland: 64%
5) Montenegro: 63%
6) Greece: 63%
7) Norway: 61%
8) Lithuania: 52%
9) Poland: 49%
10) Slovenia: 49%
Canada : 39%
USA : 37%
Germany : 27%
Italy : 25%
www.fpri.org
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Turkiye has by far the most Commando (special operations/infantry commando) brigades in Europe
The Turkish Army has 25 commando brigades
And the process of establishing 15 new commando brigades is underway to gradually increase this number to 40
40 brigades = approximately 120,000 to 200,000 elite soldiers in total.
No European Country has more than 5-6 commando/special forces brigade-level units.
Our best weapon is the brave and warrior Turkish People
NATO's rising Military Power TURKIYE
Türkiye is NATO’s second strongest Army by active personnel - weapon inventory
and a rising power with significant regional influence, indigenous defense industry growth and increasing modernization.
Turkiye’s push for self-reliance (80%+ localization as of 2026) and 90%+ as of 2035
Here I will showcase technologies that only a few NATO countries can develop/produce 2026-2032 period
1 -- 5th gen Fighter Jet
USA : F-22 and F-35
Turkiye : KAAN ... ( also TF-35000 engine under development )
The UK and Italy have their own project GCAP for 2040s
2 -- Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
USA : YFQ-44
Turkiye : KIZILELMA
3 -- Flying-wing stealth UCAV
USA : X-47
Turkiye : ANKA-III
The UK : TARANIS
France : NEURON
4 -- Strike UCAV
USA : MQ-9
Turkiye : AKINCI
USA : MQ-9 Seaguardian (Seaspray 7500E V2 Radar with range of 320 nm - 592 km)
Turkiye : AKINCI UCAV ( FULMAR-500 AESA Radar with range of 320 nm- 592 km )
5 -- Attack Helicopter
USA : AH-64 and AH-1Z
Turkiye : T-129 and T-929
Italy : AW-249
France-Germany : Eurocopter TIGER
6 -- Utility Helicopter with Turboshaft Engine Technology in the World
USA : S-70 Black Hawk ( General Electric T700-GE-701D )
The UK : AW159 Wildcat - Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322
France : EC-725 ( Turboméca ( SAFRAN ) Makila 2A1 )
Turkiye : T-625 GOKBEY ...( TEI TS-1400turboshaft Engine )
7 -- Next gen Trainer Jet
USA : T-7
Turkiye : HURJET
8 -- High-altitude long range Air Defense System
USA : PATRIOT
France-Italy : SAMP-T
Turkiye : SIPER
9 -- Exoatmospheric Ballistic Missile Intereptor
USA : THAAD
Turkiye : SIPER-4 .. ( under development )
France-Italy : ASTER-30 Block-2 BMD .. ( under development )
10 -- Weapon Locating Radar
-- 50 km AN/TPQ-37 ... USA
-- 100 km ARTHUT ... Sweden
-- 100 km COBRA ... France
-- 250+ km SURALP ... Turkiye
11 -- Land based long range AESA Radar
-- 250 km Hensoldt TRML-4D ... GERMANY
-- 470 km Thales Ground Master 400 ... FRANCE
-- 470 km Saab GIRAFFE 8A .... SWEDEN
-- 500 km Leonardo RAT-31DL ... ITALY
-- 450-600 km Aselsan ERALP .... TURKIYE
12 -- Multi-function Naval AESA Radar
-- 320 km Raytheon AN/SPY-3 ( Zumwalt class Destroyer of the US Navy ) .... THE US
-- 400 km BAE Systems SAMPSON ( Type-45 class Destroyer of the Royal Navy ).. THE UK
-- 400 km Thales SMART-L ( Horizon class Destroyer of the French Navy ) .... FRANCE
-- 400 km Aselsan CENK-S ( ISTIF class Frigate of the Turkish Navy ) ... TURKIYE
-- 450 km Aselsan CAFRAD ( TF-2000 class Destroyer of the Turkish Navy ) ... TURKIYE
13 -- Airborne AESA Radar for Fighter Jets
USA : AN/APG-81 and AN/APG-85
Turkiye : MURAD-100A and MURAD-600A
France : RBE2
Italy : Raven ES-05
The UK : ECRS
14 -- BVR Air to Air Missile
USA : AIM-120 , AIM-260
France : MICA , METEOR
Turkiye : GOKDOGAN
Turkiye also develops 185+ km GOKBORA and 200+ GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile with active AESA radar seeker
15 -- Stand off jammer Aircraft
USA : EA-37B
Turkiye : ASOJ-23A
16 -- Primary Military Satellite Producers in NATO
USA
Turkiye
France
The UK
Germany
Italy
17 -- Advanced Frigate
The UK : Type-26
France-Italy : FREMM
Turkiye : ISTIF
Spain : F-110
Turkiye is one of a few Countries in NATO that produced its own Systems
VLS , 76-127 mm Guns , CIWS , CM System , Sonar , Radars , EW Suite , etc
18 -- Destroyer
USA : ZUMWALT
The UK : Type-45
France : HORIZON
Spain : F-100
Italy : DDX ... ( under development )
Turkiye : TF-2000 .. ( under construction )
19 -- AIP Submarine / Attack Submarine
Germany : Type-214
Spain : S-80
USA : VIRGINIA
France : BARRACUDA
The UK : ASTUTE
Turkiye : MILDEN .. ( under construction )
20 -- Aircraft Carrier
USA : Gerald R. Ford 337 m
The UK : Queen Elizabeth 284 m
France : Charles de Gaulle 261 m
Italy : TRIESTE 245 m
Turkiye : MUGEM 300 m .. ( under construction )
21 -- Tank with Engine and Transmission
USA : M1A2 Tank with Honeywell AGT1500 Engine
The UK : Challenger-2 Tank with Perkins CV12-6A Engine
Germany : Leopard-2 Tank with MTU Engine
Turkiye : ALTAY Tank with BATU Engine
( also AKKOR active protection System is sole in NATO )
22 -- VLS with Long Range SAMs
USA : MK-41 VLS .... SM-2 , SM-6 SAMs
France : SYLVER VLS .... ASTER-30 SAM
Turkiye : MILDAS VLS .... SIPER-1D SAM
23 -- Assault Amphibious Vehicle
USA : AAVP7A1
Turkiye : ZAHA
France : AMX-10P
Germany : APVT
24 -- Global Positioning System
USA : GPS
Europe : GALILEO
Turkiye : ULUGBEY .... ( with 100 Satellites within 5 years )
25 -- RAMJET for supersonic Missiles
USA
The UK
France
Germany
Turkiye
26 -- Thermobaric Bombs
USA : BLU-118/B
Turkiye : GAZAP ( WRATH )
( World’s one of most powerful non-nuclear Bomb )
GAZAP’s thermobaric blast reaches 5,432°F (3,000°C) delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold.
27 -- Ground based Hypersonic Ballistic Missile
USA : DARK EAGLE
Turkiye : TAYFUN Block4 and CENK
28 -- Short range Ballistic Missile
USA : ATACMS and PrSM
Turkiye : BORA and TAYFUN
The UK : NIGHTFALL ... ( under development )
29 -- Long range strategic Cruise Missile
USA : Tomahawk
France : MdCN
Turkiye : GEZGIN
30 -- Cruise Missile with turbojet Engine technology
USA
Turkiye
France
31 -- Guided MLRS
USA : only GPS/INS
Turkiye : GPS/INS and LASER .. ( TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 )
32 -- Air launched Ballistic Missile
USA : AGM-183 ARRW
Turkiye : 300-ER
33 -- Targetin Pod
USA : SNIPER
France : TALIOS
Turkiye : ASELPOD
34 -- Combat support auxiliary Ship
USA : John Lewis-class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 227 m )
The UK : TIDE class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 200 m )
France : Jacques Chevallier class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 194 m )
Italy : Vulcano class combat support auxiliary Ship ( 193 m )
Turkiye : TCG DERYA combat support auxiliary Ship ( 200 m )
35 -- Next Gen HMD System
USA : Collins Aerospace F-35 Gen III
The UK : BAE Systems STRIKER-2
Turkiye : Aselsan TULGAR
36 -- PDMS ( Point Defense Missile System )
USA-Germany : RIM-116 RAM ( 9 km )
Turkiye : GOKSUR-100N ( 15 km ) and LEVENT ( 11 km )
37 -- Surface-to-air Missiles developed to protect Naval Platforms
USA : 50+ km ESSM
Turkiye : 40+ km HISAR-D RF
France-Italy : 30 km ASTER-15
The UK : 45 km CAMM-ER
38 -- Heavyweight Torpedo
USA : MK48 ( 50 km and 293 kg warhead )
Germany : DM2A4 ( 50 km and 260 kg warhead )
France : F21 ( 50 km and 200 kg warhead )
The UK : Spearfish ( 56 km and 300 kg warhead )
Italy : Black Shark ( 50 km and 350 kg warhead )
Sweden : Torped62 ( 50+ km and 260 kg warhead)
Turkiye : AKYA ( 50+ km and 350 kg warhead )
39 -- Bliks and Single crystal blade technologies for gas turbine turboshaft/turbofan Engines
USA
UK
France
Turkiye
40 -- Coastal Defense System
Norway : NSM
Sweden : RBS-15 MK-III
France : EXOCET
Turkiye : BARBAROS ( ATMACA anti-ship Missile )
41 -- Modern MANPADS
USA : STINGER
France : MISTRAL
Turkiye : SUNGUR
42 -- Long range anti-Tank Missile
France : AKERON-LR ( up to 20 km )
Turkiye : UMTAS-GM Block 1 and UMTAS-GM Block 2 ( 20-50 km )
43 -- Intelligence Gathering Ship
USA : T-AGOS
France : Dupuy de Lôme (A759)
Germany : TYPE-424
Turkiye : TCG UFUK
44 -- Land based ICBMs in NATO
USA : MINUTEMAN III
Other ICBMs ... ( under development )
USA : LGM-35 SENTINEL
Turkiye joins the elite club with YILDIRIMHAN ICBM ( 6.000 km )
------------------------------------------------------------------------
There are only 4 countries in NATO that can produce state-of-the-art weapons, and Turkiye is one of them ...... ( USA , The UK , Turkiye and France )
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 10 nations that said they would fight for their Country
( Among NATO allies )
1) Turkiye: 88%
2) Albania: 69%
3) Sweden: 66%
4) Finland: 64%
5) Montenegro: 63%
6) Greece: 63%
7) Norway: 61%
8) Lithuania: 52%
9) Poland: 49%
10) Slovenia: 49%
Canada : 39%
USA : 37%
Germany : 27%
Italy : 25%
Would You Fight For Your Country? The Most and Least Willing Among NATO Allies - Foreign Policy Research Institute
This piece is part of The Ties That Bind, a project on NATO’s role in the global security landscape.
www.fpri.org
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Turkiye has by far the most Commando (special operations/infantry commando) brigades in Europe
The Turkish Army has 25 commando brigades
And the process of establishing 15 new commando brigades is underway to gradually increase this number to 40
40 brigades = approximately 120,000 to 200,000 elite soldiers in total.
No European Country has more than 5-6 commando/special forces brigade-level units.
Our best weapon is the brave and warrior Turkish People
