UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people: Why are blacks in the UK given a free pass by white english racists?

[PK781]

Wait there might be some confusion regarding the word bhayya.
Bhayya = Indoaryan.
The people of north India and Eastern Pakistan.
I know that bhayyes have different factions/sub tribes within themselves,we(the non bhayyas) can't tell you apart.neither do we care.
Just like north Korean ppl and south Korean ppl. Or Malaysian or Indonesian. Or americans and Canadians.

India and Pakistan are 2 completely different peoples/countries

Don't mix em up.

We are completely different and don't need any validations of some ancient hindutva terminology

 

[Wingzero30]

You guys have really raised some excellent points on various aspects of social and political issues affecting the Pakistani community as a whole in the UK from children upbringing to integration vs assimiliation to fully supporting our community in these changing times in the UK .

Over the last 31 years of myself being in the UK, I have seen definitely how the political narrative and hostility from the white majority has increased many folds against ethnic minorities especially against our Pakistani community.

The middle class or the liberal Pakistanis who wish to move to the UK need to get their heads out of the sand and need to learn about political realities facing UK and to come to terms with their denials about what the actual day to day life looks like in this country for their own safety. Because if white racists target them, they will be the first ones to get shocks of their lives.

My viewpoints have definitely changed over the past 3 decades and after many experiences my distrust has also grown of the white british majority, though I am not targeting them as a whole.
I fully agree that we need to empower our own community regardless whether we are from Mirpur/Azad Kashmir, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Quetta, Islamabad, Gilgit Baltistan etc. We are still Pakistanis at the end of the day even if we have 100s of sub-cultures, customs etc amongst ourselves.

We can empower ourselves by fully participating in the UK by means of education, employment, business activity, political participation and social activity whilst keeping our cultural, religious, moral and social values intact. These are hard challenges but we have to do the best we can as our survival as a minority community very much depends on keeping our community strong with whatever means possible.

Definitely the community segregation across the UK is increasing and every community is prefering to live amongst themselves.
The white majority never had any interest in facilitating the minority communities or being hospitable to them.

The Pakistanis in Pakistan who show immense hospitality to goreh need to restrict themselves and be indifference to them because we get similar treatment from them.

At the end of the day when things go bad and there are political and social upheavels in the UK, we as Pakistani community will have only ourselves to protect.

I am with @PAKISTANFOREVER on this!!

 

[PakistanLVR]

My dear op,Bhayyaforever,you have failed to recognise the issue at hand.
Its not that brown people and Muslims are being targeted in UK.
We dont see Mexicans, Maghribis or muslim caucas ppl complaining.
its the bhayyas and look alikes that are facing issues.
The pertinent question is,eventually,why bhayya people (indo aryans) are disliked anywhere and everywhere they migrated to.
Be it,inside there own country of origin or outside.

Is everyone else specificslly racist towards bhayye or is it something else??


Note- Other readers,this same op,bhayyaforever, shamelessly does what he/she/them accuses whites of.
He hates the tribal afghan ethnics in his own country. He wishes death and destruction to all of them regularly.
Yes few of the afghans might be connected with illicit activities(bhayye also do that everywhere they migrated to).
So what's wrong if someone else thinks the same about him and his bhayye biraders.

If this is the case, then why is 99% attacks that go viral on social media and intense racism I observed is always against Indians, not Pakistanis. Don’t give me that typical Indian coping mechanism that to the outsiders we’re all “Indian.” You can even tell it’s specifically Indians who are getting beaten or assaulted. Even in videos where the group is getting called out for not having any civic sense, it’s 100% Indians.

Pakistanis are disliked in England and it’s probably not even as common except with nasty low iq trash and a-holes like Elon who’s fanning flames for his own agenda. OTOH Indians across the world from the U.S. to Canada to Thailand to even Japan are not welcomed and heavily disliked.

I’ve never seen Pakistanis calling for help or South Asian unity like Indians do whenever they are getting assaulted or attacked. Thanks God for Islam. Indians are cringey therefore not welcomed anywhere

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You guys have really raised some excellent points on various aspects of social and political issues affecting the Pakistani community as a whole in the UK from children upbringing to integration vs assimiliation to fully supporting our community in these changing times in the UK .

Over the last 31 years of myself being in the UK, I have seen definitely how the political narrative and hostility from the white majority has increased many folds against ethnic minorities especially against our Pakistani community.

The middle class or the liberal Pakistanis who wish to move to the UK need to get their heads out of the sand and need to learn about political realities facing UK and to come to terms with their denials about what the actual day to day life looks like in this country for their own safety. Because if white racists target them, they will be the first ones to get shocks of their lives.

My viewpoints have definitely changed over the past 3 decades and after many experiences my distrust has also grown of the white british majority, though I am not targeting them as a whole.
I fully agree that we need to empower our own community regardless whether we are from Mirpur/Azad Kashmir, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Quetta, Islamabad, Gilgit Baltistan etc. We are still Pakistanis at the end of the day even if we have 100s of sub-cultures, customs etc amongst ourselves.

We can empower ourselves by fully participating in the UK by means of education, employment, business activity, political participation and social activity whilst keeping our cultural, religious, moral and social values intact. These are hard challenges but we have to do the best we can as our survival as a minority community very much depends on keeping our community strong with whatever means possible.

Definitely the community segregation across the UK is increasing and every community is prefering to live amongst themselves.
The white majority never had any interest in facilitating the minority communities or being hospitable to them.

The Pakistanis in Pakistan who show immense hospitality to goreh need to restrict themselves and be indifference to them because we get similar treatment from them.

At the end of the day when things go bad and there are political and social upheavels in the UK, we as Pakistani community will have only ourselves to protect.

I am with @PAKISTANFOREVER on this!!

United we stand, divided we fall. So the Pakistani community in the uk NEEDS to stand united together if we are to defeat the racists and nazis. I DON'T CARE if you are Kashmiri, Punjabi, Pushtoon, Sindhi, Baloch etc. Ultimately we are ALL Pakistanis. We are ONE people, ONE nation and ONE destiny. NOTHING can change that.

In a way, I'm glad the white racists in the uk are gaining power and are openly allowed to express their racism. For too long now there were some uppity Pakistanis in the uk who (BOTH born in the uk or in Pakistan) were starting to turn their back on their Pakistani culture and heritage and claim that they were "fully british". They have had a BIG NASTY awakening in the last 2 years and have become silent........

This cringe behaviour Pakistanis exhibit when they see white european tourists in Pakistan is sickening and abnormal. These Pakistanis may not realize this but this sort of behaviour reinforces the belief in white europeans that non-whites are an inferior race who are only worth being slaves of white europeans. These Pakistanis ALSO need to realize that white europeans would NEVER EVER, not in a million years be this hospitable to Pakistanis so PLEASE do not engage in this sickening cringe behaviour. Be civil and polite to them . NOTHING more. Treat them how they would treat you.

One particular cringe behaviour uk Pakistanis engage in is when a white european or a black person converts to Islam. They start jumping up and down like a bunch of chimpanzees in utter joy and happiness. Again this reeks of a severe inferiority complex. By a white european converting to Islam does this mean that Islam is now validated? Is Gaza and the Ummah now going to be saved? Do these uk Pakistanis believe that they are so inferior that they can't do NOTHING for their own religion, culture, community and race that they need a white saviour?
white europeans and blacks converting to Islam has got NOTHING to do with Pakistanis. These whites and blacks who convert to Islam are NOT a part of our community and we can have NOTHING to do with them. NOT our business, concern or problem.

IF us Pakistanis are to defeat our racist enemies, it can ONLY be done by having solidarity amongst Pakistanis ONLY. NO OTHER community including other Muslim communities can help us. Those that are NOT of our race or Pakistani heritage are of NO USE or help to us.

In a way, I'm not angry with white european racists, hindutva racists or anti-Muslim/anti-Pakistani blacks/half-castes. They are ONLY doing what they have been programmed to do and are following their culture and beliefs. I'm angry with my OWN fellow Pakistanis for doing VERY LITTLE in order to protect our community. White europeans ALL around the globe are uniting in their hatred against uk Pakistanis/Muslims. They are getting fit and training in mma and other martial arts. They are then joining paramilitary organisations in preparation for a race war where they can murder and harm Pakistani and Muslim people. What are WE Pakistani people doing in preparation for this? We Pakistanis are doing F**k ALL and that's the truth.

The BIGGEST losers in this brewing race war in the uk is those non-whites who call themselves british/english, who race-mix with white people and those that want to join white european social circles. They are in for a VERY VERY NASTY shock soon.............

Stick to your own race, religion, culture, heritage and NEVER EVER race-mix. Race-mixing KILLS your community, race and the purity of your bloodlines.

 

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Good. When these uneducated, retarded racists who have failed lives and have achieved nothing complain about Pakistanis/Muslims/Islam it means we MUST be doing something right.

 

[PK781]

United we stand, divided we fall. So the Pakistani community in the uk NEEDS to stand united together if we are to defeat the racists and nazis. I DON'T CARE if you are Kashmiri, Punjabi, Pushtoon, Sindhi, Baloch etc. Ultimately we are ALL Pakistanis. We are ONE people, ONE nation and ONE destiny. NOTHING can change that.

In a way, I'm glad the white racists in the uk are gaining power and are openly allowed to express their racism. For too long now there were some uppity Pakistanis in the uk who (BOTH born in the uk or in Pakistan) were starting to turn their back on their Pakistani culture and heritage and claim that they were "fully british". They have had a BIG NASTY awakening in the last 2 years and have become silent........

This cringe behaviour Pakistanis exhibit when they see white european tourists in Pakistan is sickening and abnormal. These Pakistanis may not realize this but this sort of behaviour reinforces the belief in white europeans that non-whites are an inferior race who are only worth being slaves of white europeans. These Pakistanis ALSO need to realize that white europeans would NEVER EVER, not in a million years be this hospitable to Pakistanis so PLEASE do not engage in this sickening cringe behaviour. Be civil and polite to them . NOTHING more. Treat them how they would treat you.

One particular cringe behaviour uk Pakistanis engage in is when a white european or a black person converts to Islam. They start jumping up and down like a bunch of chimpanzees in utter joy and happiness. Again this reeks of a severe inferiority complex. By a white european converting to Islam does this mean that Islam is now validated? Is Gaza and the Ummah now going to be saved? Do these uk Pakistanis believe that they are so inferior that they can't do NOTHING for their own religion, culture, community and race that they need a white saviour?
white europeans and blacks converting to Islam has got NOTHING to do with Pakistanis. These whites and blacks who convert to Islam are NOT a part of our community and we can have NOTHING to do with them. NOT our business, concern or problem.

IF us Pakistanis are to defeat our racist enemies, it can ONLY be done by having solidarity amongst Pakistanis ONLY. NO OTHER community including other Muslim communities can help us. Those that are NOT of our race or Pakistani heritage are of NO USE or help to us.

In a way, I'm not angry with white european racists, hindutva racists or anti-Muslim/anti-Pakistani blacks/half-castes. They are ONLY doing what they have been programmed to do and are following their culture and beliefs. I'm angry with my OWN fellow Pakistanis for doing VERY LITTLE in order to protect our community. White europeans ALL around the globe are uniting in their hatred against uk Pakistanis/Muslims. They are getting fit and training in mma and other martial arts. They are then joining paramilitary organisations in preparation for a race war where they can murder and harm Pakistani and Muslim people. What are WE Pakistani people doing in preparation for this? We Pakistanis are doing F**k ALL and that's the truth.

The BIGGEST losers in this brewing race war in the uk is those non-whites who call themselves british/english, who race-mix with white people and those that want to join white european social circles. They are in for a VERY VERY NASTY shock soon.............

Stick to your own race, religion, culture, heritage and NEVER EVER race-mix. Race-mixing KILLS your community, race and the purity of your bloodlines.

well said brother, i whole-hearted;y agree.
Couldn't have said it better myself!

Pakistan Zindabad!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

well said brother, i whole-hearted;y agree.
Couldn't have said it better myself!

Pakistan Zindabad!

Pakistanis are VERY capable people and have ALOT of potential to do some SERIOUS DAMAGE to our enemies hence why the racists hate us so much. The BIGGEST threat to the Pakistani community is not the hindutva, the white european racists or the zionist. The BIGGEST threat to Pakistani people is our INACTION, COMPLACENCY, Pakistanis who engage in or advocate race-mixing and those Pakistanis who jump up and down like a pack of chimpanzees when some random white european or black converts to Islam. The white european racists have helped the uk Pakistani community become more united and silenced the race-mixers and british/english-wannabes amongst us.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistanis are VERY capable people and have ALOT of potential to do some SERIOUS DAMAGE to our enemies hence why the racists hate us so much. The BIGGEST threat to the Pakistani community is not the hindutva, the white european racists or the zionist. The BIGGEST threat to Pakistani people is our INACTION, COMPLACENCY, Pakistanis who engage in or advocate race-mixing and those Pakistanis who jump up and down like a pack of chimpanzees when some random white european or black converts to Islam. The white european racists have helped the uk Pakistani community become more united and silenced the race-mixers and british/english-wannabes amongst us.

The far right and racists revealing themselves is the best thing that could happen to our community

All it does is make it more difficult for idiots to ask us to bend to fit in with the whites

It's the liberal "we r British" types that will really suffer the consequences, because it's their identity that is built on being accepted