UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people: Why are blacks in the UK given a free pass by white english racists?

[PK781]

I'm a Pakistani Sunni Muslim myself but I have nothing but love for my fellow Pakistani Shia Muslim brothers and sisters. Ultimately, I see us ALL as the SAME people no matter what anyone says or does. The sectarianism that started in Pakistan in the 1980s was initated by the external enemies of Pakistan who want a destablized Pakistan where there is disunity and tension between Pakistan and Iran. Not just india, but there are many nations in the region who fear Pakistan and Iran having good relations as it threatens their power and economic capabilities.

Getting back to the video, if whites and blacks want to convert to Islam then good for them as they will GREATLY benefit from it but existing Muslims will gain NOTHING from it. it is best for all concerned that the various different Muslim communities stick to their own racial groups however where our interests align, we should work together and stick up for one another. Especially when it comes to fighting the white english racist far-right and other Islamaphobes like indian hindus and sikhs, who want to commit violence against all Muslims. Ideally, we Pakistanis need to look to each other for protection and safety but where we can get help and benefit from other Muslim groups then so be it.

The MAIN problem I have is when a white european converts to Islam, some existing brown/olive-skinned Muslims including some Pakistanis start getting excited, jumping up and down like some chimpanzees and acting like Islam is now validated and the problems of the Ummah will be solved because a white european converted to Islam. That is a blatant sign of severe inferiority complex due to the lingering effects of colonialism. It's THAT which is MOST sickening and irritating.

it does appear that many of these new converted muslims are just what we can call "youtube muslims" who just trying to garner support/sympathy/.......the main goal is getting subscribers for their youtube lives.

Real converts who give it their heart will actually shun their entire previous life and go absent from online. They will be private and will devote to islam. Not for some channel likes and subscribes....

i hate those online muslims who only became muslim to win some followers and asskissers online and subscribers.......i think those are just pretenders.

 

[PakistanLVR]

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

it does appear that many of these new converted muslims are just what we can call "youtube muslims" who just trying to garner support/sympathy/.......the main goal is getting subscribers for their youtube lives.

Real converts who give it their heart will actually shun their entire previous life and go absent from online. They will be private and will devote to islam. Not for some channel likes and subscribes....

i hate those online muslims who only became muslim to win some followers and asskissers online and subscribers.......i think those are just pretenders.

EVEN with these REAL converts to Islam who are from white or black backgrounds, one must be wary of them They MAY be genuine converts to Islam and good practicing Muslims but will their children be practicing Muslims or even accept Islam at all? Based on personal experience my observation is that their children will follow the white, black or non-Muslim culture that their converted parent originates from. That is why it is important for converts to Islam marry and have children from other converts to Islam that share the same racial background as them. Converts marrying someone from established Muslim backgrounds will likely not end well for all parties concerned and the children will likely be confused and have no genuine identity. That is very tragic.

 

[Yasser76]

EVEN with these REAL converts to Islam who are from white or black backgrounds, one must be wary of them They MAY be genuine converts to Islam and good practicing Muslims but will their children be practicing Muslims or even accept Islam at all? Based on personal experience my observation is that their children will follow the white, black or non-Muslim culture that their converted parent originates from. That is why it is important for converts to Islam marry and have children from other converts to Islam that share the same racial background as them. Converts marrying someone from established Muslim backgrounds will likely not end well for all parties concerned and the children will likely be confused and have no genuine identity. That is very tragic.

This is the important thing, I do not care what colour or culture, if someone lives by Islamic ideals and makes sure their children do as well, then none of us can judge them. In fact doing so seems unislamic to me in all honesty

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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These MOFO indians don't know when to shut up and are making enemies with the rest of the world for nothing. indians need to worry about india not Spain. The Spanish are a capable people who can look after themselves. They don't need inferior subhuman indian help.

Yes, agreed. The Spanish would prefer aesthetically better looking illegal Moroccon immigrants than legal hideously ugly subhuman indians who the Spanish would probably vomit at when they saw.

This reminds me of when the trump MAGA supporters told the indian MAGA supporters that they would prefer illegal Mexican immigrants and black americans than ANY legal indian immigrants or american born indians as they have FAR FAR more in common with blacks and Mexicans than they do with indians. The white MAGA supporters even said that blacks and Mexicans are a part of american history but indians are not.

indians don't seem to understand that much to their horror, white europeans DO NOT have a favourable opinion of indians and no matter how much white european worship indians do or however many indian females are given away to breed with white european men, the white europeans will ALWAYS regard indians as an inferior race and look down on them like they do with ALL non-whites. The indian mind CANNOT accept or understand this.

PS indians ABSOLUTELY hate it when those that are neither indian or white european are better than them in any field. That is why indians hate blacks because they are more athletic and better at sports than indians and why indians hate the Chinese as they are more intelligent and scientifically advanced than indians.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This is the important thing, I do not care what colour or culture, if someone lives by Islamic ideals and makes sure their children do as well, then none of us can judge them. In fact doing so seems unislamic to me in all honesty

YOU may not care about colour, race, ethnicity or culture but it still PLAYS a MASSIVE part in the identity, social dynamics and psychological make-up of an individual. That is the REALITY. It is usually people who are racially pure who say that race, ethnicity and culture doesn't matter because they are at one with themselves. Mixed race people uusually say the exact opposite.

 

[Yasser76]

YOU may not care about colour, race, ethnicity or culture but it still PLAYS a MASSIVE part in the identity, social dynamics and psychological make-up of an individual. That is the REALITY. It is usually people who are racially pure who say that race, ethnicity and culture doesn't matter because they are at one with themselves. Mixed race people uusually say the exact opposite.

I understand your points. It is just I see many converts who are mocked for converting and who have sacrificed family and friends in order to become Muslim. For me I admire this. I was bought up as Pakistani and Muslim and am lucky, I did not have to sacrifice anything. Many real converts are examplary muslims in my opinion

 

[PakistanLVR]

I understand your points. It is just I see many converts who are mocked for converting and who have sacrificed family and friends in order to become Muslim. For me I admire this. I was bought up as Pakistani and Muslim and am lucky, I did not have to sacrifice anything. Many real converts are examplary muslims in my opinion

My view is that they shouldn’t convert because all of the turmoil it will cause them and their non Muslim families, but then I also feel that when the spirit of Islam reaches someone - they are part of our community. Both you guys made points.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I understand your points. It is just I see many converts who are mocked for converting and who have sacrificed family and friends in order to become Muslim. For me I admire this. I was bought up as Pakistani and Muslim and am lucky, I did not have to sacrifice anything. Many real converts are examplary muslims in my opinion

Many converts may be examples but many are also trying to fool the established Muslim communities by converting especially those on social media. They are trying to get more clicks and increase their following. A lot uk Pakistanis and other established Muslims are VERY gullible, naive and excitable when it comes to the kuffar converting. The kuffar are aware of this and they try to exploit it. ALSO, there are some kuffar who fake conversions for marriage or they are infiltrators trying to destroy Muslim communities from within. That's why you MUST NEVER EVER ALLOW our uk Pakistani girls to get married to men of other races who have converted to Islam.

If a kuffar converts to Islam then good for them. THEY are the ones who are going to benefit, not the established uk Muslim communities. NO NEED for uk Pakistanis to get excited and start jumping up and down like a pack of chimpanzees, acting like they have now been validated.

I'm not telling anyone to hate converts to Islam. Rather what I'm saying is that we can work and collaborate with one another especially where our interests align like fighting against reform uk, restore party and violent white european racists who want to attack and genocide Muslims. We can even be friends with them. HOWEVER we Pakistanis CANNOT marry, have physical relations or have offspring with converts to Islam who are of a different race to us. NEVER. We CAN be friends with converts BUT NEVER family.

 

[Yasser76]

Many converts may be examples but many are also trying to fool the established Muslim communities by converting especially those on social media. They are trying to get more clicks and increase their following. A lot uk Pakistanis and other established Muslims are VERY gullible, naive and excitable when it comes to the kuffar converting. The kuffar are aware of this and they try to exploit it. ALSO, there are some kuffar who fake conversions for marriage or they are infiltrators trying to destroy Muslim communities from within. That's why you MUST NEVER EVER ALLOW our uk Pakistani girls to get married to men of other races who have converted to Islam.

If a kuffar converts to Islam then good for them. THEY are the ones who are going to benefit, not the established uk Muslim communities. NO NEED for uk Pakistanis to get excited and start jumping up and down like a pack of chimpanzees, acting like they have now been validated.

I'm not telling anyone to hate converts to Islam. Rather what I'm saying is that we can work and collaborate with one another especially where our interests align like fighting against reform uk, restore party and violent white european racists who want to attack and genocide Muslims. We can even be friends with them. HOWEVER we Pakistanis CANNOT marry, have physical relations or have offspring with converts to Islam who are of a different race to us. NEVER. We CAN be friends with converts BUT NEVER family.

No one is jumping up and down. I just cannot sit here and judge who is a better muslim and who is a lesser muslim. I am glad you have bestowed this authority on yourself.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No one is jumping up and down. I just cannot sit here and judge who is a better muslim and who is a lesser muslim. I am glad you have bestowed this authority on yourself.

It's not about who is a better Muslim or not. It's about maintaining the racial purity of the uk Pakistani community and maintaining our culture, traditions, language and civilisational heritage.

 

[Yasser76]

It's not about who is a better Muslim or not. It's about maintaining the racial purity of the uk Pakistani community and maintaining our culture, traditions, language and civilisational heritage.

I do not think people converting and maintaining our heritage are incompatible

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I do not think people converting and maintaining our heritage are incompatible

As long as we don't get married, have physical relations or have offspring with non-Pakistanis then it's all good. Remember, most whites and blacks are born from unwed couples. Vast majority of whites and balcks are born from HARAM ILLICIT relations. They are a product of HARAM activity. That's why the majority of them are HARAM low class chav scumbags.

 

[ST1976]

Black British people, what's your situation and experience of Racism in the UK?​

I come here asking because I feel like I've gotten a mixed bag of responses from Brits on this. From "It's not as bad as it is in America" to "It's really bad" to "We don't see race here". I've also been told that there's less of a race issue and more of a "Social Class" issue.

I've been living here for about six months now and I honestly can't tell if some people are sometimes put off by me because I'm American or Black(I'm 6'2 and Dark Skinned). Most people have been polite and have treated me well similar to the states. I live in London (Marylebone), and in the states I lived most recently in NYC and grew up in Atlanta, Georgia.

Nowhere in the world is perfect, I know racism exists everywhere to varying degrees but l'd like to hear some of your accounts or thoughts on racism you've experienced. Maybe you haven't experienced any racism and l'd like to hear about that too.

Thoughts from other who've heard second hand from their black friends or colleagues are welcomed as well

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[Yasser76]

As long as we don't get married, have physical relations or have offspring with non-Pakistanis then it's all good. Remember, most whites and blacks are born from unwed couples. Vast majority of whites and balcks are born from HARAM ILLICIT relations. They are a product of HARAM activity. That's why the majority of them are HARAM low class chav scumbags.

Bro, listen to yourself man, even in Pakistan we have very seperate ethnicities. Islam comes before race for me. Always,