UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people: Why are blacks in the UK given a free pass by white english racists?

[313Ghazi]

I agree with you.
Can’t generalise but i also see where pakistanforever is coming from.
You are derived and based on what your experiences are. Clearly he has had a crap experience in his lifetime hence his mind is stuck with that Fxxk you mentality.
You know if you lived here for 20 years plus - you can smell the agitation hatred and racism. In return out bro @PAKISTANFOREVER aint the kind of character to take crap.
Frankly anyone making a remark where i think my son or anyone close is being racially abused - il knock them out…..

The thing is you have to to be careful to not become what you hate.

I get your point though and I get his vibe.

Yesterday I was parked up on double yellows in the hood, near my parents house. This junkie gora walking by mumbled something.

I don't even know what he said, but it triggered me. I jumped out of the car, walked over to him and said "yo, what the fk did you say?!" in my most ghettoest of accents... Lol

He turned around shook "I just said you can't park there sir, and then I said it's normanton, nobody here follows the rules anyway".

So I retorted "who the fk are you and what the fk are you gonna gonna do about it ya facking ****?!"

He started moving faster "listen it's not the size of the man yeah, im a black belt".

I told him your a black belt in injecting "smack you fuxking junkie. Get the **** out of here".

He then mumbled something incoherent and I took a few steps towards him "why you running bitch, thought you were a bad man!".

He shouted "I'm getting my dog" as he ran away.

Now what I did was stupid. There was no need for aggro but it's more than the words. It's the auqat. Bro 20 years ago people used to walk around our hood, not through it. If you were a junkie walking through norms you kept your head down and your tail tucked between your legs. I swear most goray don't drive through our ends - they think it's dangerous.

Now that our youngsters have started recording people on thier phones instead of stomping heads, suddenly these junkies think they're safe. Worse still they've seen a few racist social media videos and suddenly have this Josh about them.

F.uck that shit. Not in my hood. Today he's mumbling under his breath within my presence, what if it had been a woman, or a kid. Or someone elderly.

I'm right there when it comes to it, I was there on the front lines with the youth tooled up with Tommy and his boys were spreading rumours of marches. But we can't become them.

The country is full of wonderful people of all ilks. You see them every day.

 

[Master Chief]

Your vibe is very racist to all non whites and non Pakistani people
You claim.they are all ugly horrible insidious people Europeans Indians blacks the lot
You claim you only wish to integrate with Pakistanis

My question to you is this
Have you not thought of burning your British passport and moving to Pakistan..That why you and yours won't be touched by any body in any way by no. Pakistani the people that you claim are the universally the best for you ..

I have to agree with Yasser
I live and work in the second city for high street bank
I live with white middle class and Asian middle class people in suburbia
I love travelling to Europe Italy Austria France etc ..I love the Europeans their look their style their history and culture

At work I have Pakistani colleagues both sexes and love talking to avd helping the elderly Asians of all South Asian heritage

They give me respect and admiration

Pakistan for ever ...you claim the whites are racist
For seventy years they have let us worship follow our culture traditions in the UK without limits

I think you need to be careful what you wish for

Your vocal but will be the last to leave Europe and go to Pakistan if push came to shove

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bro - go outside, touch the grass. Look who you are arguing against. He's not interested in your views, he's interested in telling you his ethno facists views are right.

Chill yera, life's too short. Not a pop at you bro, I'm just trying to save the mental health of the few sane voices we have left on this forum.

When there were more "sane voices" on PDF, anti-Pakistani, Islamaphobic, anti-Muslim racism by indians was rampant and the hindutva were running riot here. When the Pakistani nationalists and patriots started ffighting back we were told that PDF was becoming biased and intolerant. Why is anti-Pakistani and Islamaphobic racism allowed but racism against racist people not allowed?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

There is NO collective mythical "south asian" community. Pakistanis are racially, genetically, culturally and religiously VERY fundamentally different to indians. ALSO, please never forget that it was uk indian hindus and sikhs who have been supporting white european racists in their violent racism against Pakistanis and Muslims. uk indian hindus and sikhs have also tried to instigate violent attacks against Pakistanis and Muslims by white european racists. They have gone quiet as the white racists have now turned on indian sikhs and hindus too.

The ONLY other communities us Pakistanis can form alliances and have good relations with are other communities of practicing Muslims who are not Pakistanis. That's it, no one else. indian hindus and sikhs are just as much a racist enemy of Pakistanis as are the white european racists.

 

[harpy1]

We'll agree to disagree. I'm 47 years old now. I have witnessed ALOT of extreme racial violence since the 1980s when I was still at primary sschool. I'm a racial REALIST.

Slightly older than you but can honestly say thankfully not suffered blatant racism from whites ever.

Birmingham Born In Punjabi sikh strong hold maybe
The circle I stay in maybe
But I do travel out accross the UK on hiking trips national trust etc Never felt threatened or singled out
Travelled western Europe with wife and boys never felt it in Europe either

Yes I know there is worry by all.whites on immigration and Islamphobia but witnessing the scenes in Spain this week of north African people storming Spanish enclaves I see why there is a growing right wing movement in all of Europe

These Africans are like herds of animals swamping our shores

You claim Pakistani people should only link with other islamic people ..Are you referring to those hordes

Or is it selective

I say it again be careful what you wish for do you really want to live only with these types

Because that is not Europe or the west

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Slightly older than you but can honestly say thankfully not suffered blatant racism from whites ever.

Birmingham Born In Punjabi sikh strong hold maybe
The circle I stay in maybe
But I do travel out accross the UK on hiking trips national trust etc Never felt threatened or singled out
Travelled western Europe with wife and boys never felt it in Europe either

Yes I know there is worry by all.whites on immigration and Islamphobia but witnessing the scenes in Spain this week of north African people storming Spanish enclaves I see why there is a growing right wing movement in all of Europe

These Africans are like herds of animals swamping our shores

You claim Pakistani people should only link with other islamic people ..Are you referring to those hordes

Or is it selective

I say it again be careful what you wish for do you really want to live only with these types

Because that is not Europe or the west

Europeans, africans and the west can look after themselves. They don't need sikhs like you protecting and promoting them. Do you think these white europeans and africans give a damn about sikhs and sikhism? Are they advocating for sikhs and promoting sikhism? You just concentrate on india, sikhs, sikhism and kalistan. The non-sikhs/non-indians can take care of themselves.

 

[harpy1]

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

This divide has always existed it's nothing new
In bham we have predominate Indian Punjabi areas and also predominantly Pakistani regions

I was shocked to read the Pakistan community outnumber the Sikhs by factor or one to ten in 2025. In second city ..

I recently had my mum in hospital in heartlands unfortunately ..!


it is Pakistani location hospital and it felt like I was in another country

Yet I am born and bred Brummie ..The experience shocked me I felt uncomfortable not going to lie . Simply because of the fact I have never been to this part of Bham..

It's weird

 

[harpy1]

Europeans, africans and the west can look after themselves. They don't need sikhs like you protecting and promoting them. Do you think these white europeans and africans give a damn about sikhs and sikhism? Are they advocating for sikhs and promoting sikhism? You just concentrate on india, sikhs, sikhism and kalistan. The non-sikhs/non-indians can take care of themselves.

Khalistan is bull shit
Just like in Pakistan Kashmiri riots going on in Pakistan is bull shit or the Baluchistan or kpk kick offs are bull shit

But I am.happy in uk living amongst whites and others
And yes I have problem of hoardes of people from.Africa etc storming Europe

You sir are hypocritical you want to live in the west but a islamic enclave so you claim

But I'm not convinced deep down you would like that really

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Khalistan is bull shit
Just like in Pakistan Kashmiri riots going on in Pakistan is bull shit or the Baluchistan or kpk kick offs are bull shit

But I am.happy in uk living amongst whites and others
And yes I have problem of hoardes of people from.Africa etc storming Europe

You sir are hypocritical you want to live in the west but a islamic enclave so you claim

But I'm not convinced deep down you would like that really

Not really bothered with what your opinions are or not. Not happy with hordes of africans coming to the uk but probably happy with a horde of 1 million indian immigrants coming to the uk under sunak whom the white english are not happy about. ALOT of the white english have a problem with indian immigrantion. It's not for the sikhs to decide who can come to the uk or not. sikhs are not responsible for british/white western european culture and civilisation.

When did sikhs start dictating what is good for the british and english?.................


PS You are posting on a Pakistani forum and speaking from a sikh perspective which is VERY alien and different to us. Your better off on a sikh/indian forum.