UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people: Why are blacks in the UK given a free pass by white english racists?

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The usual suspects. They always seem to be driving a white van.

It's usually these uneducated, achieved nothing in life, have broken relationships and broken kids individuals who are the MOST fanatical obnoxious racists.

 

[Waz]

White english man is sickened my too many non-whites in ASDA. Says he can't wait till they are all "purged":

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He needs to have a wash before trying to purge. Looking at him he's weak as hell and wouldn't do anything.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

He needs to have a wash before trying to purge. Looking at him he's weak as hell and wouldn't do anything.

This guy is typical of the british far-right. Is highly likely uneducated. probably has only 3 gcses, not including Maths, English and Science. Never went to college let alone university. Probably is not in a relationship and has no kids. Is renting a single room or lives with his parents. Has no money, property, status or good job prospects. Blames ALL his problems and life's failures on non-whites and gets MASSIVELY triggered when he sees non-whites. Without racism, these guys are empty voids and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Just got sent this link to a youtube video. Although he doesn't say it explicitly, it looks like he is talking about the dating, marriage and having children situation of white european men:

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In brief he claims that a large proportion of young men (I'm assuming white european men) now don't go on a date, get married or have children. It's the main reason that birthrates are declining (I'm assuming in white european countries).

Is the above one of the main causes of Islamaphobia because the vast majority of the Muslim community have traditional values, get married amongst their own and have children?

Something more insidious and dangerous, could the above be the cause of a RECENT (past 2 years) substantial rise in the number of white european men in the uk converting to Islam and trying to enter our communities and get married to our girls? This is something VERY SINISTER and DEVASTATING that we Pakistani Muslim men and women need to be VERY WARY of and guard AGAINST.

 

[Master Chief]

Just got sent this link to a youtube video. Although he doesn't say it explicitly, it looks like he is talking about the dating, marriage and having children situation of white european men:

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In brief he claims that a large proportion of young men (I'm assuming white european men) now don't go on a date, get married or have children. It's the main reason that birthrates are declining (I'm assuming in white european countries).

Is the above one of the main causes of Islamaphobia because the vast majority of the Muslim community have traditional values, get married amongst their own and have children?

Something more insidious and dangerous, could the above be the cause of a RECENT (past 2 years) substantial rise in the number of white european men in the uk converting to Islam and trying to enter our communities and get married to our girls? This is something VERY SINISTER and DEVASTATING that we Pakistani Muslim men and women need to be VERY WARY of and guard AGAINST.

Well much of this seems to be idle speculation but I do notice one thing, probably a common observation.

The obsession with getting Muslim females to remove the hijab is quite a vile and increasingly pervasive one. Whether it is hindutva urchins or Tommy's boys, the objective is likely identical. It is certainly NOT in the interests of equality of economic opportunity (because that already exists, regardless of attire!), and is completely in the interests of having some "right" to "oggle", or worse.

 

[Waz]

Bro, israelis will NEVER EVER see indians as their equals. In fact, ACCORDING to israeli racial hierarchy, indians are seen as lower than even Palestinians/Arabs.

Yes that is correct, rabbinic rulings class Hindus the worst of humans for being idol worshipers. They ironically hold Islam in high esteem but say people to people relations are bad.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Well much of this seems to be idle speculation but I do notice one thing, probably a common observation.

The obsession with getting Muslim females to remove the hijab is quite a vile and increasingly pervasive one. Whether it is hindutva urchins or Tommy's boys, the objective is likely identical. It is certainly NOT in the interests of equality of economic opportunity (because that already exists, regardless of attire!), and is completely in the interests of having some "right" to "oggle", or worse.

They want access to our women so they can corrupt them and make them like the kuffar women.

 

[Waz]

I'm sure she is

But as you say, they will never really accept non-whites, so her or anyone else from Braverman, Patel, Sunak trying is really pathetic

It's better just to take pride in your own faith and cultural identity

The problem with people like her, is that they leave themselves stuck in no man's land,
Look at her post, our community is largely conservative, half white kids and Jewish this and friends blah blah blah and we don't really accept people like this, we keep them at arms length because we don't trust them and fear they will have a negative influence on our people


She used to wear a hijab
And took it off a few years ago, and the reason she gave was that some of her dress and outspoken ways did not respect the hijab and she did not want those things making a mockery of the hijab

I came across a post on Reddit and someone wrote, that since she got divorced, she is isolated and having problems "as a Muslim" finding a man to marry a women with three mixed race kids


Basically she can't find a Muslim guy to take her on with her baggage and past

So either she stays alone, or tries to find someone amongst the Non-Muslims and hence she took off her hijab because people would then question her wearing hijab on one hand and dating or being friends with men on the other


Basically her own behavior has left her In a pile of shit, confused




And this is predictable, and all we are saying is that this can be avoided by Muslims if we just keep ourselves on our faith and cultural path

I don't think they look at the future and if things do go down south. Many are led by their emotions. It's all fun and glitter at the time. This need to be explained more as such marriages, which are fine in the deen do come with more challenges.
I know Pakistani girls who have divorced, had kids and remarried again with other Pakistani men who had kids. So they have blended families, but because their kids are all from the same cultural and faith background it's easier for them to do this.

 

[Waz]

The problem is when a man or woman from our community has offspring with someone of another race, that person becomes dead to us. However much good they do after, means NOTHING. WHAT is the motivation for her going against the white english racists? Is it because it's anger and frustration at not being accepted by the white english despite breeding mixed race offspring with a white english man? Someone who race mixes can NEVER love their own race and people so she is not going against the racists on behalf of the Pakistani community.

I suspect when bushra sheikh was younger, she was one of those uppity Pakistanis who were left-wing liberal degenerates and believed they were superior to the rest of the Pakistani community. They believe that race-mixing is fine because "Islam allows it". She thought she would be accepted and assimilated into white english society. The rejection and non-acceptance of her by the white english is likely to her motivating factor in going against the far-right. Unfortunately the uk Pakistani community does have a minority who think like bushra shaikh when they are younger.

The likes of bushra shaikh need to be kept away from the Pakistani community especially the young girls as they promote degeneracy and UnIslamic behaviour.

Our elders who come to the uk in the 1950s and 1960s were super intelligent and shrewd. They knew the TRUE nature of the other races. They told us to work hard, be successful, makes lots of money and build a home back in Pakistan because ONE day the white english may kick out all non-whites from the uk. They also told us to NEVER NEVER EVER race-mix under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES as it is a filthy and disgusting act that destroys your identity, bloodline and heritage. How TRUE were those words from over 70 years ago.

To be fair I have not seen her telling impressionable young Pakistani women "do as I did", I mean why would she? It didn't end well.
As for her why she is so keen on fighting the right, it can be a range of things and I don't believe it's down to her being angry at them for not accepting her. Although I have read blogs and seen videos of Pakistani women who have married white reverts talk about not being accepted by his family, remarks being made, overt/covert racism etc.
I think she's trying to make up for lost time and doing her bit.

 

[PakistanLVR]

I don't think they look at the future and if things do go down south. Many are led by their emotions. It's all fun and glitter at the time. This need to be explained more as such marriages, which are fine in the deen do come with more challenges.
I know Pakistani girls who have divorced, had kids and remarried again with other Pakistani men who had kids. So they have blended families, but because their kids are all from the same cultural and faith background it's easier for them to do this.

This is true I think for all women. Unfortunately, we are at a disadvantage given Euro-centric beauty standards and the de-religionization of the world. Something I feel our British Pakistanis live in a bubble within their own niche community - no offense to you guys. I'm seeing many Pakistani women marrying outsiders Muslim or not Muslim. I don't see as many men, but then Its true for all men. The women have achieved complete freedom of movement which includes choosing their own lifestyles. They are not marrying, they are having zina relationships with just about everyone. Everyone is headed off the cliff. I consider you guys my friends so not trying to disparage the UK British community.

It took me a while to understand that our culture is a derivative of the Anglo + Islamic culture. I would even add the Eastern side of Pakistan there are three dominating cultures - Anglo (western), Islamic, and remnants of the former Hindu/Pagan wrapped in "Islam."

Long story short - we're all cooked

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

To be fair I have not seen her telling impressionable young Pakistani women "do as I did", I mean why would she? It didn't end well.
As for her why she is so keen on fighting the right, it can be a range of things and I don't believe it's down to her being angry at them for not accepting her. Although I have read blogs and seen videos of Pakistani women who have married white reverts talk about not being accepted by his family, remarks being made, overt/covert racism etc.
I think she's trying to make up for lost time and doing her bit.

To be honest bro, I just down know. There is something sinister and not right about Pakistani men and women who race-mix. It's a way of defiling, humiliating and degrading yourself when it should never have happened in the first place. Like the example you just gave, a Pakistani women married to a white english "Muslim convert" and his parents not accepting her. That is humiliating, lowering and defiling your self. It means you have no self-respect if you lower and put yourself in situation where the acceptance by others of your race and religion matters.

I myself attended an ALL white and black nursery, primary school, secondary school and sixth form college in West London. The first 18-20 years of my life was like this. There were NO Pakistanis Muslims, indians, South asians, Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc where I grew up and went to school and college. So unlike the vast majority of Pakistanis, Muslims, indians, South Asians etc I KNOW and UNDERSTAND FULLY the psychology, behaviour, attitudes and the character of white and black people VERY WELL. Thankfully now aged 47 I live in an area that is 98% Pakistani and bengali.

They the whites and blacks are COMPLETELY incompatible in terms of marriage and relationships with Pakistanis. They have NO business mixing and trying to enter our communities and WE Pakistanis ALSO have no business in mixing with and trying to enter their communities. That is the natural order. Work with them, be colleagues with and do business with them but LEAVE it at that.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This is true I think for all women. Unfortunately, we are at a disadvantage given Euro-centric beauty standards and the de-religionization of the world. Something I feel our British Pakistanis live in a bubble within their own niche community - no offense to you guys. I'm seeing many Pakistani women marrying outsiders Muslim or not Muslim. I don't see as many men, but then Its true for all men. The women have achieved complete freedom of movement which includes choosing their own lifestyles. They are not marrying, they are having zina relationships with just about everyone. Everyone is headed off the cliff. I consider you guys my friends so not trying to disparage the UK British community.

It took me a while to understand that our culture is a derivative of the Anglo + Islamic culture. I would even add the Eastern side of Pakistan there are three dominating cultures - Anglo (western), Islamic, and remnants of the former Hindu/Pagan wrapped in "Islam."

Long story short - we're all cooked

Is that in canada you are seeing this? Here in the uk, the VAST majority of Pakistani women AND men marry their own. I live in an area that is 98% Pakistani and bengali and we marry and stick with our own. In canada/america it's probably very different.

On the contrary, I don't think we are cooked. I honestly, sincerely believe that with the rise of far-right racism and racial politics, we are ALREADY witnessing a revival of traditional Pakistani cultural values and community cohesion. Where the vast majority sticks to their own and takes pride in their race, religion, culture and identity. This is ESPECIALLY true of uk Pakistani youngsters under the age of 20.

 

[Waz]

This is true I think for all women. Unfortunately, we are at a disadvantage given Euro-centric beauty standards and the de-religionization of the world. Something I feel our British Pakistanis live in a bubble within their own niche community - no offense to you guys. I'm seeing many Pakistani women marrying outsiders Muslim or not Muslim. I don't see as many men, but then Its true for all men. The women have achieved complete freedom of movement which includes choosing their own lifestyles. They are not marrying, they are having zina relationships with just about everyone. Everyone is headed off the cliff. I consider you guys my friends so not trying to disparage the UK British community.

It took me a while to understand that our culture is a derivative of the Anglo + Islamic culture. I would even add the Eastern side of Pakistan there are three dominating cultures - Anglo (western), Islamic, and remnants of the former Hindu/Pagan wrapped in "Islam."

Long story short - we're all cooked

We are a niche community for sure and most of the marrying out is happening in expat communities in US, CAN etc.

 

[Waz]

To be honest bro, I just down know. There is something sinister and not right about Pakistani men and women who race-mix. It's a way of defiling, humiliating and degrading yourself when it should never have happened in the first place. Like the example you just gave, a Pakistani women married to a white english "Muslim convert" and his parents not accepting her. That is humiliating, lowering and defiling your self. It means you have no self-respect if you lower and put yourself in situation where the acceptance by others of your race and religion matters.

I myself attended an ALL white and black nursery, primary school, secondary school and sixth form college in West London. The first 18-20 years of my life was like this. There were NO Pakistanis Muslims, indians, South asians, Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc where I grew up and went to school and college. So unlike the vast majority of Pakistanis, Muslims, indians, South Asians etc I KNOW and UNDERSTAND FULLY the psychology, behaviour, attitudes and the character of white and black people VERY WELL. Thankfully now aged 47 I live in an area that is 98% Pakistani and bengali.

They the whites and blacks are COMPLETELY incompatible in terms of marriage and relationships with Pakistanis. They have NO business mixing and trying to enter our communities and WE Pakistanis ALSO have no business in mixing with and trying to enter their communities. That is the natural order. Work with them, be colleagues with and do business with them but LEAVE it at that.

The thing is bro they don't really see it that way, and our community is slow to adapt to explain the potential pitfalls. Or at the very least make sure he is a true God fearing man and won't walk off or give up his deen.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The thing is bro they don't really see it that way, and our community is slow to adapt to explain the potential pitfalls. Or at the least make sure he is a true God fearing man and won't walk off or give up his deen.

It's MUCH MUCH more than that. When a woman race-mixes, she loses her racial identity and becomes subservient to the racial identity of her partner EVEN though there is NO chance she can EVER TRUELY fit in or be ACCEPTED by that different race. That is an EXTREME act of defilement, lowering one-self and showing that you are worthless with NO self-respect. Whether the man becomes a committed Muslim or not is of no consequence and means NOTHING as far as racial dynamics and cohesion is concerned. The woman becomes a defiled, dishonoured, dirty woman with no self-respect whose ONLY purpose now is to breed the offspring of men of different races. An INSULT and SHAME to her parents, ancestors and their legacy.