UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

[Yasser76]

Most of them didn't. VERY few did and it's always exaggerated. Majority of them either stayed out of the conflict or attacked Pakistanis and other asians. I MYSELF witnessed this. These whites and blacks are under manners now because Pakistanis put them in their place in the early 90s and stopped taking their BS. Also, the whites and blacks have lost their power and prominence especially in education, professional/manuel jobs and business. Their family systems have also collapsed so they have lowered their racism as they have become demoralized. However, make no mistake about it, if these whites and blacks gain power again, they WILL target Pakistanis and other asians. So F**k them. Dirty, scummy people.

Need to agree to disagree yaar, I cannot make such sweeping statements. Many baclsk and whites are very decent people and I count as my friends. Perhaps our life experiances have been different....

 

[retaxis]

When racists are like u need to integrate, drop ur religion and culture and give us ur women or go back to where u come from. They tend to not understand the social contract that was basically signed.

When non whites immigrate to Western nations they are promised a liberal multicultural society where their faith and culture is respected. That's the social contract immigrants sign. So why the fk do people need to then be forced to assimilate? Is this some sort of western scam?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

When racists are like u need to integrate, drop ur religion and culture and give us ur women or go back to where u come from. They tend to not understand the social contract that was basically signed.

When non whites immigrate to Western nations they are promised a liberal multicultural society where their faith and culture is respected. That's the social contract immigrants sign. So why the fk do people need to then be forced to assimilate? Is this some sort of western scam?

These white racists want Pakistanis to drop our religion, culture, traditions and racial cultural heritage as these qualities are pure, righteous and are seen as a threat to white european racists. Virtually all other non-whites in the uk have lost their religion, culture, heritage and language. It's only Pakistanis who haven't which is why white european racists hate us the most.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

To be honest I disagree with all of this. Many are, not all

We'll agree to disagree. I'm 47 years old now. I have witnessed ALOT of extreme racial violence since the 1980s when I was still at primary sschool. I'm a racial REALIST.

 

[Yasser76]

We'll agree to disagree. I'm 47 years old now. I have witnessed ALOT of extreme racial violence since the 1980s when I was still at primary sschool. I'm a racial REALIST.

Fair enough bro, I am 48, appreciate life experience forms our opinions

 

[PK781]

The tribulations that are coming ahead (everywhere) will be tough so be best prepared as you can my brothers. May Allah protect us all from the age of fitnahs and help us. Aameen

 

[313Ghazi]

No one is jumping up and down. I just cannot sit here and judge who is a better muslim and who is a lesser muslim. I am glad you have bestowed this authority on yourself.

Bro - go outside, touch the grass. Look who you are arguing against. He's not interested in your views, he's interested in telling you his ethno facists views are right.

Chill yera, life's too short. Not a pop at you bro, I'm just trying to save the mental health of the few sane voices we have left on this forum.

 

[Musings]

Your vibe is very racist to all non whites and non Pakistani people
You claim.they are all ugly horrible insidious people Europeans Indians blacks the lot
You claim you only wish to integrate with Pakistanis

My question to you is this
Have you not thought of burning your British passport and moving to Pakistan..That why you and yours won't be touched by any body in any way by no. Pakistani the people that you claim are the universally the best for you ..

I have to agree with Yasser
I live and work in the second city for high street bank
I live with white middle class and Asian middle class people in suburbia
I love travelling to Europe Italy Austria France etc ..I love the Europeans their look their style their history and culture

At work I have Pakistani colleagues both sexes and love talking to avd helping the elderly Asians of all South Asian heritage

They give me respect and admiration

Pakistan for ever ...you claim the whites are racist
For seventy years they have let us worship follow our culture traditions in the UK without limits

I think you need to be careful what you wish for

Your vocal but will be the last to leave Europe and go to Pakistan if push came to shove

I agree with you.
Can’t generalise but i also see where pakistanforever is coming from.
You are derived and based on what your experiences are. Clearly he has had a crap experience in his lifetime hence his mind is stuck with that Fxxk you mentality.
You know if you lived here for 20 years plus - you can smell the agitation hatred and racism. In return out bro @PAKISTANFOREVER aint the kind of character to take crap.
Frankly anyone making a remark where i think my son or anyone close is being racially abused - il knock them out…..

 

[hussain0216]

It no longer matters about your experience

The reality is Europe is ageing
Europe has replaced its culture with consumerism
Europe and the west relationship system has broken down
Marriage rates have collapsed
Birth rates are low
30-40% of Western men don't have girl friends, relationships or even sex

Living standards are under pressure
And the west can't compete because it's simply too expensive to produce anything in the west


Now most of the above is a result of the wests own sins


BUT they won't admit that it address the underlying issues


THEY WILL BLAME MIGRATION AND BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE

This is not a maybe, this is already happening At best you will have a divided society with left and right opposing each other



At some point people may need to leave the UK, but in the meantime the worst thing you can do is integrate to the point where you lose your culture and identity



Those who have not understood this will suffer the consequences
Those who are mixed race will be left high and dry

Understand that the world is turning extreme and you not going to counter Zionists, hindutva, white supremacists with liberal secular cuckoldry

 

[313Ghazi]

I agree with you.
Can’t generalise but i also see where pakistanforever is coming from.
You are derived and based on what your experiences are. Clearly he has had a crap experience in his lifetime hence his mind is stuck with that Fxxk you mentality.
You know if you lived here for 20 years plus - you can smell the agitation hatred and racism. In return out bro @PAKISTANFOREVER aint the kind of character to take crap.
Frankly anyone making a remark where i think my son or anyone close is being racially abused - il knock them out…..

The thing is you have to to be careful to not become what you hate.

I get your point though and I get his vibe.

Yesterday I was parked up on double yellows in the hood, near my parents house. This junkie gora walking by mumbled something.

I don't even know what he said, but it triggered me. I jumped out of the car, walked over to him and said "yo, what the fk did you say?!" in my most ghettoest of accents... Lol

He turned around shook "I just said you can't park there sir, and then I said it's normanton, nobody here follows the rules anyway".

So I retorted "who the fk are you and what the fk are you gonna gonna do about it ya facking ****?!"

He started moving faster "listen it's not the size of the man yeah, im a black belt".

I told him your a black belt in injecting "smack you fuxking junkie. Get the **** out of here".

He then mumbled something incoherent and I took a few steps towards him "why you running bitch, thought you were a bad man!".

He shouted "I'm getting my dog" as he ran away.

Now what I did was stupid. There was no need for aggro but it's more than the words. It's the auqat. Bro 20 years ago people used to walk around our hood, not through it. If you were a junkie walking through norms you kept your head down and your tail tucked between your legs. I swear most goray don't drive through our ends - they think it's dangerous.

Now that our youngsters have started recording people on thier phones instead of stomping heads, suddenly these junkies think they're safe. Worse still they've seen a few racist social media videos and suddenly have this Josh about them.

F.uck that shit. Not in my hood. Today he's mumbling under his breath within my presence, what if it had been a woman, or a kid. Or someone elderly.

I'm right there when it comes to it, I was there on the front lines with the youth tooled up with Tommy and his boys were spreading rumours of marches. But we can't become them.

The country is full of wonderful people of all ilks. You see them every day.

 

[Master Chief]

Your vibe is very racist to all non whites and non Pakistani people
You claim.they are all ugly horrible insidious people Europeans Indians blacks the lot
You claim you only wish to integrate with Pakistanis

My question to you is this
Have you not thought of burning your British passport and moving to Pakistan..That why you and yours won't be touched by any body in any way by no. Pakistani the people that you claim are the universally the best for you ..

I have to agree with Yasser
I live and work in the second city for high street bank
I live with white middle class and Asian middle class people in suburbia
I love travelling to Europe Italy Austria France etc ..I love the Europeans their look their style their history and culture

At work I have Pakistani colleagues both sexes and love talking to avd helping the elderly Asians of all South Asian heritage

They give me respect and admiration

Pakistan for ever ...you claim the whites are racist
For seventy years they have let us worship follow our culture traditions in the UK without limits

I think you need to be careful what you wish for

Your vocal but will be the last to leave Europe and go to Pakistan if push came to shove

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bro - go outside, touch the grass. Look who you are arguing against. He's not interested in your views, he's interested in telling you his ethno facists views are right.

Chill yera, life's too short. Not a pop at you bro, I'm just trying to save the mental health of the few sane voices we have left on this forum.

When there were more "sane voices" on PDF, anti-Pakistani, Islamaphobic, anti-Muslim racism by indians was rampant and the hindutva were running riot here. When the Pakistani nationalists and patriots started ffighting back we were told that PDF was becoming biased and intolerant. Why is anti-Pakistani and Islamaphobic racism allowed but racism against racist people not allowed?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

There is NO collective mythical "south asian" community. Pakistanis are racially, genetically, culturally and religiously VERY fundamentally different to indians. ALSO, please never forget that it was uk indian hindus and sikhs who have been supporting white european racists in their violent racism against Pakistanis and Muslims. uk indian hindus and sikhs have also tried to instigate violent attacks against Pakistanis and Muslims by white european racists. They have gone quiet as the white racists have now turned on indian sikhs and hindus too.

The ONLY other communities us Pakistanis can form alliances and have good relations with are other communities of practicing Muslims who are not Pakistanis. That's it, no one else. indian hindus and sikhs are just as much a racist enemy of Pakistanis as are the white european racists.

 

[harpy1]

Here's the fundamental problem with the "aman ki asha" narrative.

It is now hopelessly outdated.

There was a time when I would have agreed that Pakistan origin and Indian origin diaspora could get on, mingle, and indeed be closer to one another than any two other distinct ethnic classes, while leaving south asian "politics" behind in south asia. That all changed when Mr Modi and his Golwalkar-esque cabal became mainstream in Hindustan. This mentality slowly diffused out into both the established diaspora and also via the new migrant classes from India (students, deliveroo types etc).

These events brought us to where we are today - a basal level of mistrust between two of UK's oldest established migrant groups. As they say on GB News, "sectarianism" has been exported. What GB News - deliberately - overlooks though is that the blame for this phenomenon lies squarely at the feet of hindutva movement. Modi himself has stated openly his hostility to Pakistan as a concept AND to Pakistani influence ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. Countless times we have sat down to watch some cultural event or sporting fixture outside of Pakistan itself and we Pakistanis have been subjected to malevolent efforts (variably amateurish in their nature) to derail and bring harm to those events purely because of Pakistani (or even peeceived Pakistani) participation.

Some would argue that Hindustan has always been this way inclined, and that the mask has simply slipped now, perhaps permanently.

I personally see no future for "south Asians" as a single community with any sort of cohesive or unified voice in UK. And long may it stay that way.

This divide has always existed it's nothing new
In bham we have predominate Indian Punjabi areas and also predominantly Pakistani regions

I was shocked to read the Pakistan community outnumber the Sikhs by factor or one to ten in 2025. In second city ..

I recently had my mum in hospital in heartlands unfortunately ..!


it is Pakistani location hospital and it felt like I was in another country

Yet I am born and bred Brummie ..The experience shocked me I felt uncomfortable not going to lie . Simply because of the fact I have never been to this part of Bham..

It's weird

 

[Daiba]

For years I have wondered why white english racists have ALWAYS given blacks a free pass.

Its very simple. Hating and expressing hate for Browns has no consequence. Hating and expressing hate for blacks have consequences. Why is it so? Because, blacks are a camoflarge hiding someone else too... keep on reading...

There is a very simple way to undo this. Have more lawyers in the community. Not immigration type. Civil litigation type.

Sue every hater and those who tolerate hate into oblivion. Extract money from them and destroy their life.
Second part is media. Have control over media and use it to broadcast the racists identity continuously. Also, make movies about victim narrative.
Third is advocacy group. Have lobbies to lobby legislation about anti hate laws.
Fourth is donation. Donate to political parties and be a major political donator in elections.
Fifth is money. Have more people in lucrative fields like finance to direct coporate donations to your advocacy groups.


Reminds you of someone who does all of it? Hint : They are in vast numbers in new york. They wear black caps and dig tunnels between buildings. They also support anti hate laws against hate on their own community as well as blacks. To avoid blame of only one being hated or manipulation.