UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

PAKISTANFOREVER said:
It's absolutely ridiculous. The sikhs even claim that the alcohol problem they have in their community is caused by Muslims and Pakistanis.
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Back at uni, the highlight of the football calendar was the annual Islamic Society vs Sikh Society football match.

We were mostly Pakistanis and Bengalis with a few amazing Arabs and Malays.

They (sikh soc) took it much more seriously than us and they got whooped regularly for their efforts.

It's beyond the thread subject, but sikhs globally GENUINELY grieve their missed opportunity in 1947. Now they are wandering, confused as to their true place, venting their anger at the one group that refused to be subdued by the Hindu and instead chose freedom.

Ultimately, they wish they could drag us down into whatever cope bubble they perpetually exist in.
 
Master Chief said:
Back at uni, the highlight of the football calendar was the annual Islamic Society vs Sikh Society football match.

We were mostly Pakistanis and Bengalis with a few amazing Arabs and Malays.

They (sikh soc) took it much more seriously than us and they got whooped regularly for their efforts.

It's beyond the thread subject, but sikhs globally GENUINELY grieve their missed opportunity in 1947. Now they are wandering, confused as to their true place, venting their anger at the one group that refused to be subdued by the Hindu and instead chose freedom.

Ultimately, they wish they could drag us down into whatever cope bubble they perpetually exist in.
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BINGO!!!!!!!!!!....................................You have just hit the nail on the head...........................You have also solved the 35 year old puzzle........................... The reason WHY sikhs are desperate to be accepted by and get the approval of white english people is because they have NO STATE of their own, global standing or recognition as a distinct community on the world stage. So they latch on to white english identity and culture in order to compensate for all of that and feel they have an identity on the global stage. Obviously sikh retardedness and barbarity in 1947 is ultimately responsible for this. It all makes sense now.

PS Reading your post explained the reason behind the bizarre behaviour of sikhs in their worship of the white european races that I have been trying to figure out since 1991.
 
Master Chief said:
Agree with this to a degree. But it has changed since our era where hindutva was not the visibly permeating global force that it is today. The hindutva narrative has been (deliberately) entwined with the eurocentric revivalist narrative, flagging Muslims/Pakistanis as the first enemy of both groups. Of course, if we vanished tomorrow, jeetistanis would be next, no doubt. For now there is a very real marriage of convenience between these vile ideologies and it is something our kids must be trained to recognise immediately.

The signs are subtle, but they are there.

When a child comes home from school and innocently says: "i learned about the evils of colonialism and partition today...everyone used to be together as one in India until the British came!".

No pocket money for a month if I hear such revisionist nonsense in my household.

We need to be very clear - INDIANS push the above narrative and whites play along for fear of offending some DEI curriculum agenda.
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This disease is very common in India, and to large extend some Pakistanis. Its frustrating to lack of an official push-back at the state level. I do see Gen Z in Pakistan raising their voices. Mostly the illiterate Indics in the eastern side of the country have this Indian fetish. I am not an Arab, a Turk, a Persian, an Afghan, nor I'm an Indian by default. Oddly enough my DNA shows 0.2 Greek, and 0.4 Slav/Balkans, the rest is the regions of Pakistan plus some relatives in England around 1800s. The Pakistan military is the cause of all this confusion in our people. They have dictated who's a*s we should kiss for their foreign policy and loans. Every decades it changes from Arab to Islamic to runaway Westernization (we see the fruits of their labor in today's generation).
Few years back I was in Islamabad during Christmas time and every place I went to eat, they were playing Christmas music and the workers wore those Santa's caps/hats. It was unsettling for me to experience. I also went on a date with this chick who exclusively dates Westerners but gave me a chance. Turned out she graduated from National Defense University and worked in the NGO field (into itself a large red flag). She routinely had relationships with men who came to Pakistan to work as foreign NGOs. She loved eating pork which she purchased from super markets in Islamabad that catered to Westerners. She was proudly telling me her great parents were Sikhs. Had a lot of mental issues from what I could tell. She revealed she was in therapy.

The military is run by mental slaves which in turns pushes the same mindset into the population. Its a tough pill to swallow for many nationalists here but one that I had to come to terms with uncomfortable. Iran is the only one standing for Muslim rights, the rest are just colonized mental slaves doing what they are told to do.
If tomorrow every Pakistan in the West comes under dire stress, will these governments come to our aid or would they sell out as they have done during WoT?
 
PakistanLVR said:
This disease is very common in India, and to large extend some Pakistanis. Its frustrating to lack of an official push-back at the state level. I do see Gen Z in Pakistan raising their voices. Mostly the illiterate Indics in the eastern side of the country have this Indian fetish. I am not an Arab, a Turk, a Persian, an Afghan, nor I'm an Indian by default. Oddly enough my DNA shows 0.2 Greek, and 0.4 Slav/Balkans, the rest is the regions of Pakistan plus some relatives in England around 1800s. The Pakistan military is the cause of all this confusion in our people. They have dictated who's a*s we should kiss for their foreign policy and loans. Every decades it changes from Arab to Islamic to runaway Westernization (we see the fruits of their labor in today's generation).
Few years back I was in Islamabad during Christmas time and every place I went to eat, they were playing Christmas music and the workers wore those Santa's caps/hats. It was unsettling for me to experience. I also went on a date with this chick who exclusively dates Westerners but gave me a chance. Turned out she graduated from National Defense University and worked in the NGO field (into itself a large red flag). She routinely had relationships with men who came to Pakistan to work as foreign NGOs. She loved eating pork which she purchased from super markets in Islamabad that catered to Westerners. She was proudly telling me her great parents were Sikhs. Had a lot of mental issues from what I could tell. She revealed she was in therapy.

The military is run by mental slaves which in turns pushes the same mindset into the population. Its a tough pill to swallow for many nationalists here but one that I had to come to terms with uncomfortable. Iran is the only one standing for Muslim rights, the rest are just colonized mental slaves doing what they are told to do.
If tomorrow every Pakistan in the West comes under dire stress, will these governments come to our aid or would they sell out as they have done during WoT?
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The reason why she needs therapy is because deep down she knows all the race-mixing, pork-eating and other Islamic activities she engages with is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong, disgusting and immoral.
 
PAKISTANFOREVER said:
Funny and how convenient that this sikh is talking about "brotherhood" with Pakistanis now when the white english far-right have turned FULL-RETARD against indian sikhs and hindus. Funny how this "brotherhood" was non-existent before 2025. Also, has this sikh forgotten how much the sikhs were supporting the white english far-right racists in their anti-Pakistani and Islamaphobic racism? These sikhs are some of the most evil and duplicitous people on the planet.
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I was interested in your opinion on this given that this is an issue you have mentioned a few times. My 2 cents.

1. Zeeshan (smile2jannah) is friends with big Muslim influencers such as Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab as well as Dilly Hussain of 5 pillars. So Paul Choudhry is now (or for that particular moment when he was with Zeeshan) adjacent to such people.

2. If some Sikhs do want to work with some Muslims on a united anti-racist front then I don't think those particular Muslims will reject them in the same way they are willing to work with white leftists, Greens, anti-Zionist Jews. This doesn't necessarily mean they'd metaphorically or even literally jump into bed with them. No Muslim is going to start wearing a Sikh turban, wear a kirpan, marry Sikhs (not allowed in Islam) or compromise parts of his religion for them but in a political capacity they (Muslims) will work with anti-racist Sikhs or allow them to be part of a coalition which Muslims are part of.

This doesn't mean all Sikhs are great people or we love Sikhism in the same way that it doesn't mean that if we work with leftists or the green party we believe in what they believe.

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3. Just on a tangential point I think that Paul Choudhry guy was trying to tap into pan-Punjabism with Zeeshan in the way he was mentioning how his (Paul) family were originally from Rawalpindi Pakistan and how they speak the same variant of Punjabi as many UK Pakistanis. I don't understand why those two were using the word "Musulman" (Muslim) in that video. We use the same word in my language, Sylheti, but Zeeshan is supposed to be a da'i for a universal audience and the global language is English so why is he being slightly parochial and using a desi word 'Musulman'? I think it's a bit off and seemed to hint 'yaar we are both desis yaar'. I don't agree with that and UK Muslims who are not Punjabi/Pakistani but Somali, Arab, Turk, other Asians wouldn't really jive with that sort of thing.
 
uksyl said:
I was interested in your opinion on this given that this is an issue you have mentioned a few times. My 2 cents.

1. Zeeshan (smile2jannah) is friends with big Muslim influencers such as Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab as well as Dilly Hussain of 5 pillars. So Paul Choudhry is now (or for that particular moment when he was with Zeeshan) adjacent to such people.

2. If some Sikhs do want to work with some Muslims on a united anti-racist front then I don't think those particular Muslims will reject them in the same way they are willing to work with white leftists, Greens, anti-Zionist Jews. This doesn't necessarily mean they'd metaphorically or even literally jump into bed with them. No Muslim is going to start wearing a Sikh turban, wear a kirpan, marry Sikhs (not allowed in Islam) or compromise parts of his religion for them but in a political capacity they (Muslims) will work with anti-racist Sikhs or allow them to be part of a coalition which Muslims are part of.

This doesn't mean all Sikhs are great people or we love Sikhism in the same way that it doesn't mean that if we work with leftists or the green party we believe in what they believe.

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3. Just on a tangential point I think that Paul Choudhry guy was trying to tap into pan-Punjabism with Zeeshan in the way he was mentioning how his (Paul) family were originally from Rawalpindi Pakistan and how they speak the same variant of Punjabi as many UK Pakistanis. I don't understand why those two were using the word "Musulman" (Muslim) in that video. We use the same word in my language, Sylheti, but Zeeshan is supposed to be a da'i for a universal audience and the global language is English so why is he being slightly parochial and using a desi word 'Musulman'? I think it's a bit off and seemed to hint 'yaar we are both desis yaar'. I don't agree with that and UK Muslims who are not Punjabi/Pakistani but Somali, Arab, Turk, other Asians wouldn't really jive with that sort of thing.
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Paul Chowdhury is confused and/or trolling. To ignore him is the best approach.
 
uksyl said:
I was interested in your opinion on this given that this is an issue you have mentioned a few times. My 2 cents.

1. Zeeshan (smile2jannah) is friends with big Muslim influencers such as Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab as well as Dilly Hussain of 5 pillars. So Paul Choudhry is now (or for that particular moment when he was with Zeeshan) adjacent to such people.

2. If some Sikhs do want to work with some Muslims on a united anti-racist front then I don't think those particular Muslims will reject them in the same way they are willing to work with white leftists, Greens, anti-Zionist Jews. This doesn't necessarily mean they'd metaphorically or even literally jump into bed with them. No Muslim is going to start wearing a Sikh turban, wear a kirpan, marry Sikhs (not allowed in Islam) or compromise parts of his religion for them but in a political capacity they (Muslims) will work with anti-racist Sikhs or allow them to be part of a coalition which Muslims are part of.

This doesn't mean all Sikhs are great people or we love Sikhism in the same way that it doesn't mean that if we work with leftists or the green party we believe in what they believe.

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3. Just on a tangential point I think that Paul Choudhry guy was trying to tap into pan-Punjabism with Zeeshan in the way he was mentioning how his (Paul) family were originally from Rawalpindi Pakistan and how they speak the same variant of Punjabi as many UK Pakistanis. I don't understand why those two were using the word "Musulman" (Muslim) in that video. We use the same word in my language, Sylheti, but Zeeshan is supposed to be a da'i for a universal audience and the global language is English so why is he being slightly parochial and using a desi word 'Musulman'? I think it's a bit off and seemed to hint 'yaar we are both desis yaar'. I don't agree with that and UK Muslims who are not Punjabi/Pakistani but Somali, Arab, Turk, other Asians wouldn't really jive with that sort of thing.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!1............................

The reason why some uk indian sikhs and hindus have started making overtures to Pakistani/Muslim communities is because the white english far-right are now turning their hatred and anger on them too. indian sikhs and hindus CANNOT fight against white english racists so they want us to help. NO WAY!...................Rememer it was indian hindus and sikhs who encouraged and promoted white english racism against Pakistanis and Muslims in the first place so they deserve EVERYTHING they are now getting from the racists. NO Pakistani or Muslim should engage with ANY indian hindus and sikhs in fighting the far-right. The minute the white english racists start being friendly with indian hindus and sikhs, ALL 3 will unite against Pakistanis and Muslims. indian sikhs and hindus are a STRICT NO NO.

uk Pakistanis and Muslims NEED to stop looking to non-Muslims in the uk for support and protection as they will NEVER help us. We CAN NEVER trust or rely on them. We can ONLY trust our own communities and race. The ONLY other option is for the various different Muslim communities in the uk to unite and work COLLABORATIVELY together in protecting our communities. There is NO OTHER viable option.

Last point, some Pakistanis and Muslims NEED to stop being SICKINGLY over friendly with white english people and giving them free food and encouraging them to convert to Islam. This sort of behaviour conveys to the racists that Pakistanis and Muslims are a servile inferior race worthy of extermination. We NEED to work with and protect our own ONLY.
 
During the recent oxford university debate between Muslims and the far-right led by tommy robinson, laurence fox and liam tufts, at the end of the debate, some white english "Muslim converts" started taking photos and selfies with liam tufts and laurence fox:



liam tufts and laurence fox are well-known extreme racists and Islamaphobes. They both have a genocidal hatred of Brown/olive-Skinned Muslim people.

This is why you can NEVER EVER trust or EVER allow white european english converts to Islam, into your communities.
 
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