UK Racism against Muslims and Brown people

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Problem is (on the large part) Pakistani girls in the west are not those beautiful, pretty and feminine kotli girls. Rather, I have found them to be entitled feminists, unhealthy, fat and completely lost. Many Pakistani's find it extremely difficult to find a spouse in the west and for the ones that do, batachary get zaleel or divorced. It's for this reason many choose to look outside. It's a real shame but it's reality bro.

You obviously haven't been to Luton, Bradford or Burmingham lately. Those fat, unhealthy, entitled feminist types you're talking about in our community are a small minority. If the Pakistani community has such types of women, rest assured the other races have 5× more such women in their communities.

 

[uksyl]

@PAKISTANFOREVER and everybody else. Here are some points.

1. Blacks are still discriminated against and face a tough time in society. Just because some blacks smile on TV doesn't mean being black is easy in the west. It is like saying because Shabana Mahmood and Sadiq Khan are Home office minister and London mayor there is no racism against Pakistanis. The George Floyd incident was just typical of the daily racism US blacks face and in the UK black men with nice cars are routinely stopped for no reason by cops. I can give countless examples of how blacks are treated unfairly in the UK, though of course because they are Christian and have English names e.g. Ian Wright, Marcus Rashford etc they can mix with whites more easily than Muslims or Asians.

2. Capitalism v ethno-nationalism.

a. If you deport millions of people "overnight" or even over a few years e.g. a hundred thousand a month i.e. 3,000 a day your economy suffers or could even tank. That's several million less consumers for capitalists to sell their products too.

b. If you want a high standard of living and want to be a white person who puts their elderly white parent in a care home you can't wait for 5 years for Sally and Jeremy to train up and be care workers, you need people right now, so you will accept Tundae from Nigeria or Marvin from the Philippines. Obviously you can pass laws so that they cannot settle down and live permanently in the UK, but extreme white nationalists/racists just get triggered by seeing any coloured person and they cannot tell if it's a "darkie" who has been here a few weeks or someone whose parents were born in this country, and for some they couldn't care, you are still "Brown", "Black" and a darkie to them and unwanted.

Either way capitalism means accepting immediate labour supply from the third world and accepting the retention of millions of darkies who keep the economy afloat by buying products rather than making the already weak economy go bust.

3. In the long-term things are not looking for the white ethno-nationalists/racists/fascists due to the low birth rate, break up of the family etc but they may make it such that the "darkies" who do live in the UK have to "fit in", "integrate" and give up their culture. There are divisions within the right wing. Some say they don't mind darkies as long as they assimilate, others can't stand any darkies (but they cannot provide answers for the problems mass expulsion "remigration" and lack of labour cause and seem to be living in la-la land).

As for the first type who don't mind seeing darkies per se, look at the state of "Israel". Ethnically most Israelis are middle-eastern e.g. from Iraq, Morocco, Iran but they are culturally a part of the white western world despite being tanned or dark and unofficially the pale white Ashkenazim are the elite socially, so the UK right might try to make a British version of Israel/Brazil etc.

However Britain generally is a country on the decline, a relatively small island which arguably cannot support 200 million people having the current standards of living. Current population is at 70 million approx and if it were to double and become 140 million (less than Bangladesh's almost official number of 180 million) that might not be sustainable. The county is going through a socio-economic erosion/decay/implosion and basically the white right are fundamentally saying "this is our country, not yours, you are guests, behave."

No idea what the future holds, but if people were thinking about their grandchildren I don't think the UK will be a great place to live in 30-40 years so I would advocate making plans right now to either relocate or have a 2nd home to either settle in or spend part of the year in.

 

[K2RULEZ]

The flag shaggers would term this as two tier policing.

 

[Mobius]

You obviously haven't been to Luton, Bradford or Burmingham lately. Those fat, unhealthy, entitled feminist types you're talking about in our community are a small minority. If the Pakistani community has such types of women, rest assured the other races have 5× more such women in their communities.

Just go to Pakistan majority areas in Birmingham (Ladypool Road/Stratford Road/Alum Rock). Pay attention to the queues outside fast food / Juice bars and you'll see a plethora of size 10+ (20-30) year olds who don't give a sh1t about their health/appearance. Level of entitlement is sky high and as for mannerisms, the less I say, the better.
Seen the same up north in Manchester & Bradford too. Not sure about Luton, but i've heard it's pretty ruff area.
Bro, whether you like it or not, the fact is that marriage in our community is not all "good and jolly". Divorce rates are through the roof and matrimonial/ match making events fully booked with little success rates. It's grim out there for Muslim singles in the West which is why many look outside their race (Both men & Women).

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Just go to Pakistan majority areas in Birmingham (Ladypool Road/Stratford Road/Alum Rock). Pay attention to the queues outside fast food / Juice bars and you'll see a plethora of size 10+ (20-30) year olds who don't give a sh1t about their health/appearance. Level of entitlement is sky high and as for mannerisms, the less I say, the better.
Seen the same up north in Manchester & Bradford too. Not sure about Luton, but i've heard it's pretty ruff area.
Bro, whether you like it or not, the fact is that marriage in our community is not all "good and jolly". Divorce rates are through the roof and matrimonial/ match making events fully booked with little success rates. It's grim out there for Muslim singles in the West which is why many look outside their race (Both men & Women).

I beg to differ. My personal 30 years experience has been the COMPLETE opposite of what you say. I'm seeing a lot of good looking young professional Pakistani/Kashmiri girls and boys getting married and starting families. They are blessed.

So which race doesn't have a sky high divorce rate and has the best women for marriage? The divorce rate of our community is one if the lowest in the uk. You said it is a "fact" that our divorce rates are through the roof. Do you any evidence to confirm that?

 

[hussain0216]

37% of american-Pakistani men marry non-Pakistani women????????????.................WTF!!!!!!!!!!.........................

19% of american-Pakistan women engage in race-mixing. 18% less than the men. So the rate of race-mixing of american-Pakistani men is nearly twice that of american-Pakistani women. At this rate, the american-Pakistani community will die out with 4 or 5 generations................

Too be fair, i think it's Indian Muslims and Pakistani, Indian Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims in the U.S do have closer connections


And if you look overall

Pakistani Muslims have the lowest levels of interfaith marriage

If you look at Indians it's 30-40%

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

@PAKISTANFOREVER and everybody else. Here are some points.

1. Blacks are still discriminated against and face a tough time in society. Just because some blacks smile on TV doesn't mean being black is easy in the west. It is like saying because Shabana Mahmood and Sadiq Khan are Home office minister and London mayor there is no racism against Pakistanis. The George Floyd incident was just typical of the daily racism US blacks face and in the UK black men with nice cars are routinely stopped for no reason by cops. I can give countless examples of how blacks are treated unfairly in the UK, though of course because they are Christian and have English names e.g. Ian Wright, Marcus Rashford etc they can mix with whites more easily than Muslims or Asians.

2. Capitalism v ethno-nationalism.

a. If you deport millions of people "overnight" or even over a few years e.g. a hundred thousand a month i.e. 3,000 a day your economy suffers or could even tank. That's several million less consumers for capitalists to sell their products too.

b. If you want a high standard of living and want to be a white person who puts their elderly white parent in a care home you can't wait for 5 years for Sally and Jeremy to train up and be care workers, you need people right now, so you will accept Tundae from Nigeria or Marvin from the Philippines. Obviously you can pass laws so that they cannot settle down and live permanently in the UK, but extreme white nationalists/racists just get triggered by seeing any coloured person and they cannot tell if it's a "darkie" who has been here a few weeks or someone whose parents were born in this country, and for some they couldn't care, you are still "Brown", "Black" and a darkie to them and unwanted.

Either way capitalism means accepting immediate labour supply from the third world and accepting the retention of millions of darkies who keep the economy afloat by buying products rather than making the already weak economy go bust.

3. In the long-term things are not looking for the white ethno-nationalists/racists/fascists due to the low birth rate, break up of the family etc but they may make it such that the "darkies" who do live in the UK have to "fit in", "integrate" and give up their culture. There are divisions within the right wing. Some say they don't mind darkies as long as they assimilate, others can't stand any darkies (but they cannot provide answers for the problems mass expulsion "remigration" and lack of labour cause and seem to be living in la-la land).

As for the first type who don't mind seeing darkies per se, look at the state of "Israel". Ethnically most Israelis are middle-eastern e.g. from Iraq, Morocco, Iran but they are culturally a part of the white western world despite being tanned or dark and unofficially the pale white Ashkenazim are the elite socially, so the UK right might try to make a British version of Israel/Brazil etc.

However Britain generally is a country on the decline, a relatively small island which arguably cannot support 200 million people having the current standards of living. Current population is at 70 million approx and if it were to double and become 140 million (less than Bangladesh's almost official number of 180 million) that might not be sustainable. The county is going through a socio-economic erosion/decay/implosion and basically the white right are fundamentally saying "this is our country, not yours, you are guests, behave."

No idea what the future holds, but if people were thinking about their grandchildren I don't think the UK will be a great place to live in 30-40 years so I would advocate making plans right now to either relocate or have a 2nd home to either settle in or spend part of the year in.

"Sundae from Nigeria and Marvin from the Philippines"................

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Too be fair, i think it's Indian Muslims and Pakistani, Indian Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims in the U.S do have closer connections


And if you look overall

Pakistani Muslims have the lowest levels of interfaith marriage

If you look at Indians it's 30-40%

Agreed but we need to remain vigilant and avoid the filth, debauchery, horror and insidious nature of race-mixing.

 

[Mobius]

I beg to differ. My personal 30 years experience has been the COMPLETE opposite of what you say.

So which race doesn't have a sky high divorce rate and has the best women for marriage? The divorce rate of our community is one if the lowest in the uk.

You may be of the older generation which is why your experience differs. But for singles looking now, it's as I described. Social Media has impacted our community quite badly too.

I'm not saying one single race has the best women for marriage. I'm saying that people are beginning to look outside their race to make it less challenging in an already difficult environment.

 

[hussain0216]

I beg to differ. My personal 30 years experience has been the COMPLETE opposite of what you say.

So which race doesn't have a sky high divorce rate and has the best women for marriage? The divorce rate of our community is one if the lowest in the uk.

The biggest thing I worry about is after the death of our elder community

The maintenance of the arranged marriage system is under stress

Girls are not being taught the essentials of how to be a mother, wife and look after a home

Now people teach these girls to be good Muslims and aspects of our culture, so they aren't as bad as the whites/blacks/Indians
But they have that underlying feminist bullshit
The guys too have their own issues

So whilst we as a community have resisted I forsee atleast some marriage problems if we can't maintain the arranged marriage system and kids are expected to find their own spouses

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You may be of the older generation which is why your experience differs. But for singles looking now, it's as I described. Social Media has impacted our community quite badly too.

I'm not saying one single race has the best women for marriage. I'm saying that people are beginning to look outside their race to make it less challenging in an already difficult environment.

But race-mixing is insidious, filthy and disgusting to a point that if you breed mixed race offspring, the problems that come with it, you would wish never married in the first place and had remained single.

If social media is adversely affecting our community and marriage prospects, then something needs to be done about it. We need to keep our community strong, clean and pure. Otherwise we will get annihilated by the racists/far-right.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The biggest thing I worry about is after the death of our elder community

The maintenance of the arranged marriage system is under stress

Girls are not being taught the essentials of how to be a mother, wife and look after a home

Now people teach these girls to be good Muslims and aspects of our culture, so they aren't as bad as the whites/blacks/Indians
But they have that underlying feminist bullshit
The guys too have their own issues

So whilst we as a community have resisted I forsee atleast some marriage problems if we can't maintain the arranged marriage system and kids are expected to find their own spouses

So the youngsters in our community need to be start being taught about arranged marriages and the importance of keeping one's race pure and clean.

 

[Mobius]

But race-mixing is insidious, filthy and disgusting to a point that if you breed mixed race offspring, the problems that come with it, you would wish never married in the first place and had remained single.

If social media is adversely affecting our community and marriage prospects, then something needs to be done about it. We need to keep our community strong, clean and pure. Otherwise we will get annihilated by the racists/far-right.

I'm not against race-mixing as Islam does not prohibit it. However, the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis in the West would prefer a Pakistani spouse to maintain cultural norms and compatibility. However, we have a problem now where the desired cultural norms and compatibility have eroded because women in our community no longer want to play that traditional role due to feminism. Thus why many are beginning to look outside their ethnicity as Pakistan Men want a feminine homemaker whereas Pakistani Women are looking for more Liberal "progressive" men (code for a complete cuck who dances to their every tune).

Pakistani parenting needs to be a lot stronger, but unfortunately fathers are out grinding all day, modern day mothers are either too busy watching dramas or faffing around and then the children are left at the hands of the pro lgbtq education system.
If the tide is to be reversed, Parents need to invest more time for their kids and keep them on the right track and Mosques / community centres need to do more too. Otherwise, you're correct....in a few generations we'll annihilate ourselves. The far-right won't need to.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I'm not against race-mixing as Islam does not prohibit it. However, the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis in the West would prefer a Pakistani spouse to maintain cultural norms and compatibility. However, we have a problem now where the desired cultural norms and compatibility have eroded because women in our community no longer want to play that traditional role due to feminism. Thus why many are beginning to look outside their ethnicity as Pakistan Men want a feminine homemaker whereas Pakistani Women are looking for more Liberal "progressive" men (code for a complete cuck who dances to their every tune).

Pakistani parenting needs to be a lot stronger, but unfortunately fathers are out grinding all day, modern day mothers are either too busy watching dramas or faffing around and then the children are left at the hands of the pro lgbtq education system.
If the tide is to be reversed, Parents need to invest more time for their kids and keep them on the right track and Mosques / community centres need to do more too. Otherwise, you're correct....in a few generations we'll annihilate ourselves. The far-right won't need to.

Agreed. However, when your women race-mix, it encourages the other women in your community to become sex objects and prostitutes for men of other races. This then leads to the men of your race becoming silent cucks.