United States elections 2024: Donald Trump Wins

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As I said, nobody in America give a F about me who fought in the Middle East for "THEM" do you really think American in general care about anything not happening within their block?
That's delusional if this is how you think, of course every American who came back in a body bag fighting the people who were fighting the invasion does impact US population's perception of the " enemy " and comes the more and more unconditional support for more and more wars, so yes you fighting in ME first was as a invader and if you came back in a flag then yes that will resent more Americans to drop more bombs, so yes they do care about ME to a extent to support and vote for Govt's who wage and sustain these wars.

First of all, you said that as if voting GOP and Dem have any different. That's exactly because American don't care, they would care enough to see which party will do what in the Middle East.

Pretty sure if we do care about it, this thing will be ended one way or another, either we do care about the genocide and we stop selling arms to Israeli to stop the genocide, or we don't give a F about the Palestinian and we send Israeli their wish list to finish the job and Palestine ceased to exist.

If you can't see how this is the result of how American in general don't care about things happen that far away, I really have nothing else to say.
Again a complete denial of ground realities, your population do care about people hence they send millions of dollars in AID, for IDF and Millions of dollars to build more illegal settlement, and no if America care this conflict wont be over, cause America will not win a war against the entire ME. I know Americans don't like to hear it but even with all Military might they can only go that far.
And honestly I can't help you if you are denying the realities just to say America voter to care but the FACT's says other wise.

here is the Aid/support from non Military

And you are telling me it's not the same? I mean do they get a pass because it happened 1000 years ago (it actually a lot less, but I digress) even modern China, they do start war and intervene ICJ/ICC Genocide investigation, China invasion of Vietnam for example, and China oppose to ICJ/ICC genocide investigation with Rohingya and Uighur
Oppose investigation is not same as threatening the UN/ICC and ICJ.
and not to mention threatening the entire region to protect one tiny satellite colony, hence proving that America do care and care enough to spill blood for it, when did China Threaten entire Region for war for any of its allies? Please try again.

123 by Soviet Union/Russia, followed by 82 by the US, 32 by the UK, 18 by France, and 6 by China People Republic of (being member since 1972)

Knowing this, do you want to change your view on UN?
Why would I change my view? Putin is not on the same level b!tching as America is towards the middle East, USA is funding a Genocide while playing Victim for the side that is committing the Genocide which history has not seen, plus read the Veto's of China/Russia while read about the USA Veto's and if you can't see the difference than I can't help you. Compare the Veto's of China by USA the numbers speak for themselves, plus USA is willing to use violence to protect colony.
Well, I don't know what to say, as I said if this is what you think then I will say you probably will have a very bleak future in the US, you need to understand this is how US work, like it or not, this is how the government function, and that's something not going to change in maybe a few dozen President time. This is not about common sense, this is not about who is the good guy and who is the bad guys, all these are relative, this is about who lobby for which government. Otherwise why do you think I live in Australia, not the US now?

Again, we can't debate things that didn't happen. So, I am going to leave it as it is.
Well I know my opinion don't matter over a larger audience but at least I am content with myself standing for what is right, and no there is not "Subjective" opinion on to who is right in this Genocide, its the whole world against the Colonists/Genociders who are asking for peace/cease-fire while America is on a full bullying path. One thing i agree that things won't change in USA that is for sure because your GOVT is not only control but literally slaved by the Zionists, I don't know what make a Super power shivers when a Zionist leader is present but its still a reality, like I raised the point early maybe its the hate American's have or the White man's messiah complex, or the same Colonial mindset that still exists in the White American's who see anyone other than white as uncivilized, your guess is as good as mine.
Its not only about the lobby, even if anyone lobby against the Israel it won't change things because Evangelicals/Christian who still make the most of American's still believe in some twisted rapture theories, and the USA media and their propaganda is way above what Gobbles in Nazi regime would've dreamed off, so yeah with all that Media bantering and deliberately reporting one sides or outright lies change people's perception overtime, its the power of Propaganda that makes a common American believe that a IDF soldier in a Tank firing at a 7 year old with a stone is the victim/Oppressed, that is achievement. And I haven't even touch the Churches/Hollywood and Wall street support for Israel, now you living in denial that Americans don't care that is something I can't fix, if someone thinks that closing my eyes make things disappear in general I can't help that but that is not how things work.

I've always been stubborn when it comes to holding my position on something but i don't take a position unless i research a topic moderately, I don't live in a delusional off one people's right to live and return to their " Ancestor " land over the others, I am definitely not a Hypocrite who judge others by a different standard while I reserve a different set of standards for myself, if killing innocent civilians makes AQ/ISIS Terrorist then US Military/IDF and NATO who have killed far far more innocent civilians will also make them Terrorists too in my opinion, just because its done by a person in uniform or white skin or call it a fancy word like " collateral damage " doesn't make it less evil.

but in the end, we all can agree to disagree.. you have right to your opinion and so do I, I will respect America as a country or its military when they finally stands up for something that is right not just pretend it.
 
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"...while America is on a full bullying path."

@Starlord

Absolutely, and the bullies are especially those four or five wealthy families that rule over everyone one else in their little fiefdoms (counties).


plu·toc·ra·cy
noun
  1. government by the wealthy.
    "the attack on the Bank of England was a gesture against the very symbol of plutocracy"
    • a country or society governed by the wealthy.
      plural noun: plutocracies
      "no one can accept public policies which turn a democracy into a plutocracy"
    • an elite or ruling class of people whose power derives from their wealth.
      "officials were drawn from the new plutocracy"

And these bullies are vulnerable, not to their fellow neighbors they have been lording it over for the past decades, but new people, coming in to show the beaten down there is a better alternative.

How will you like to see Islam get a foothold right in the middle of Heartland, USA? It's right there for the taking, the soft underbelly of Christian Zionism.

In the very near future, weathy Muslims holding US dollars will need to be looking to dump them in favor of real assets - think real estate, ranches, etc. And I see a real opportunity for Islam in Northeast Oklahoma.

The poor here have almost no opportunities to better their lives. I tell the young to learn a trade and get out of here. And they are, and have been.

The result is this small town is filled with poor, disabled and poor, the plutocrats making money off of through federal aid. Not a long term growth strategy, is it? Driving away the brightest youth, owning businesses that cater to the old and infirm. Houses going into disrepair, crumbling roads and buildings falling down.

The town I am living in is a shit hole, but dumb Okies think it's normal.

The severe drought this year has decimated the cattle herds this year. A ranch with 200 heads of cattle at start of year, down to seven - no water, no cattle.

Nearby, Heartland USA, a $2.5 billion amusement park project has yet to get off the ground. Wait a year, and I bet you the 1,000 acre project may be available for another use.

This area is within Cherokee Nations. Theoretically, tribal land. But the Cherokees do not have the funds to go full on sovereign - and are not likely to.

The area is strategically located between Dallas and St. Louis. There is no reason why this area cannot thrive, but for, again, the local plutocrats who are afraid of any change that may challenge their fiefdoms.

I have been watching for almost ten years. This area is very vulnerable to a new people, a new people who can build a community based on better principles than "I got mine, you leave and get yours."

The town ripe for change is Nowata, Oklahoma. And if you know it's history, the local plutocrats richly deserve to lose their holdings.

Just in the past 15 years, the racist cops have run out nearly all the blacks, leaving just a handful left.

Now they are going after the poor.

This area is ripe for new owners, a new class of people who's world view is based on justice, not just-us.
 
"maybe its the hate American's have or the White man's messiah complex, or the same Colonial mindset that still exists in the White American's who see anyone other than white as uncivilized..."

@Starlord

You are close. Do some reading on The White Man's Burden, especially the poem by Rudyard Kipling and the critics of the White Man's Burden from 120 years ago.
 
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proper salt mining !

The Dems,(or at least some of them, AOC and alike) need to go further left, or Far-Left even, if they want to stay relevant!
 
Nick goes to Liberal-land Connecticut to hear what they are saying about Trump winning
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Democrats Are Coming Unglued In Connecticut. So I Went There To Investigate.​


Meanwhile in up-state New York
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There Aren't Any Liberal Meltdowns In New York. This State Worships Donald Trump Now.​


So Nick Johnson is the guy who drives around America filming tent cities and poverty saying completely out-of-touch Liberal Democrats in power are just as bad (and actually worse) as Republicans when it comes to causing a wealth gap.
Example of his videos
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I Went To The Worst Ghettos In The United States: Part Two​


There used to be a strong sense of unity after Obama won 2008, it's nowhere to be found now for Trump. neighbors still haven't made peace with each other after so many days :LOL: 🤣
 
There used to be a strong sense of unity after Obama won 2008, it's nowhere to be found now for Trump. neighbors still haven't made peace with each other after so many days :LOL: 🤣

Well you can see all those screams of Conservative white racists causing trouble after the Obama win over McCain was just the usual Liberal scare tactics. Nothing happened...nobody moved to Canada...nobody talked of boycotting anything.

But if a Liberal minority candidate loses..it's another story. Some people go absolutely crazy and all the loud Liberal cancel culture starts rearing its head.

Viral social media posts have called for a boycott of Sephora and other popular retail outlets over alleged donations.

 
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But if a Liberal minority candidate loses..it's another story. Some people go absolutely crazy and all the loud Liberal cancel culture starts rearing its head.



“Conservative students have been targeted on social media and on campus, being told that they condone rape, sexism, racism, and every other ‘ism’ in the English dictionary,” the club’s executive board wrote an op-ed in The Heights, BC’s student newspaper. “We will no longer sit idly by while unhinged people openly defame the character of students who voted for President Trump.”
 
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"maybe its the hate American's have or the White man's messiah complex, or the same Colonial mindset that still exists in the White American's who see anyone other than white as uncivilized..."

@Starlord

You are close. Do some reading on The White Man's Burden, especially the poem by Rudyard Kipling and the critics of the White Man's Burden from 120 years ago.
Appreciate the suggestion, but talk to random 10 Americans (Whites) 5 liberal and 5 conservative and you will come to the same conclusion.
 

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