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_Arabia_ said:
90% of Yemen was liberated, all the areas with all the natural wealth (oil and gas), 90 of the coastline. Houthis were/are confined to the mountainous northwest. KSA was never interested in going after them as it would be a losing battle - similar to US/Pakistani attempts of removing the Taliban - never going to work in this terrain and with such a large population (North Yemen has 20-25 million people). More so when the Houthis are embedded within civilian areas. There is also the "problem" and "dilemma" of North Yemenis being fellow Muslims and Arabs that we are closely tied to. In particular people of Southern KSA - one of our most inhabited areas. There was always deep unpopularity with this war among many circles within the Saudi Arabian army. Hence KSA was mostly limited to a support role for the Yemeni army, engaging in key battles such as the battle of Aden and other such battles. Rest was sporadic special operations and air and naval warfare.

Maybe it is the Iranian regime that needs to learn with its neighborhood in peace? You are talking about a country that has attacked every neighbor from Turkiye to Azerbaijan to Iraq to Oman (you know those guys that they themselves handpicked before the war started as a place for negotiation - preferring them over Turks, Pakistanis and others), to Syria, to Pakistan to GCC. Not long ago they attacked you guys with ballistic missiles.

They are the only regional country that I know of who have actively used 1000's of Pakistani Shias as cannon fodder in Syria and elsewhere.

KSA did not allow offensive operations from its territory UNTIL Iran, in desperation and because they cannot hurt either the US mainland or Israel really, started to send drones and ballistic missiles at KSA. Not the other way around.

And no, there are no US bases in KSA. This is a Saudi Arabian sovereign military base (Prince Sultan Air Base) which has been allowed to be used by the government by the US as a logistics hub mainly. It only became relevant 10 + years ago when the whole Daesh menace emerged. Due to being centrally located between Syria and Iraq in the north it was the perfect staging (one of many in the region) to wage air raids and campaigns as well as being a logistics hub situation in the middle of the Arabian Peninsula bordering 2 of the world's most important trade routes and bordering Africa and Europe and Asia next door.

And the Iranian regime is not very clever. Do you really think that by attacking those small GCC states the regimes in power will somehow now reduce US presence? The opposite is already occurring. As if this was any surprise. The Iranian regime has given the perfect excuse for leaders in Qatar, UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait to say that we need US bases because otherwise the Iranian regime might even invade us (of course unrealistic) but you get the point.

But even if the GCC did nothing at all, Iran would also be attacking the GCC (desperate attempt mostly and with little to no harm) due to geographic proximity and the oil, gas, aviation and economic hubs that the GCC Is. The plan was always to make a regional war (Iran vs US or Israel) into a world/global war in order to use oil/gas/global economics/trade as a power play against rivals (US, Israel) that Israel otherwise stands no change to win against militarily. It is pretty simple.

Why was Oman attacked numerous times for instance? Nobody believes the Iranian nonsense about some imaginary US or Israeli attacks. It was confirmed that those were Iranian drones and missiles as well.
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How is this post related to the topic bro?
 
Beijingwalker said:
Air craft carriers could prove to be sitting duck in future wars against major powers, though they might be still pretty useful against small nations.
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The USS Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier successfully met operational requirements in Venezuela, but it is the first in its class and have some issues that warrant inspection (under investigation).

The USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group is doing well in war with Iran, robust build and fully capable of high tempo operations. It was last witnessed near Oman but continues to change its position to evade strikes. However, it is broadly operating close to Iran demonstrating excellent survivabilitty, situational awareness, operational movement and response generation.

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LeGenD said:
The USS Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier successfully met operational requirements in Venezuela, but it is the first in its class and have some issues that warrant inspection (under investigation).

The USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group is doing well in war with Iran, robust build and fully capable of high tempo operations. It was last witnessed near Oman but continues to change its position to evade strikes. However, it is broadly operating close to Iran demonstrating excellent survivabilitty, situational awareness, operational movement and response generation.

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Iran is not a major power , exploits against Venezuela and Iran don't count much.
 
mythbuster said:
Iran is not a major power , exploits against Venezuela and Iran don't count much.
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Major power or not, the USN has been conducting carrier operations at a scale that equals or even exceeds that of Gulf Wars 1 and 2 or even Vietnam.

For those who missed it, saw posts already on this forum of the Ford arriving in Crete. I'm not seeing any damage by Iranian missiles.

So the alleged hits on the carrier as speculated by a number of folks here were imaginary or the Navy is very skilled at camouflaging the damage.

My bet is the former.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Major power or not, the USN has been conducting carrier operations at a scale that equals or even exceeds that of Gulf Wars 1 and 2 or even Vietnam.

For those who missed it, saw posts already on this forum of the Ford arriving in Crete. I'm not seeing any damage by Iranian missiles.

So the alleged hits on the carrier as speculated by a number of folks here were imaginary or the Navy is very skilled at camouflaging the damage.

My bet is the former.
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I'd target Aegis destroyers first, before carrier

all SM3 missile ships are all in-tact, shows, no hit on carrier has taken place (logical to conclude)
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Major power or not, the USN has been conducting carrier operations at a scale that equals or even exceeds that of Gulf Wars 1 and 2 or even Vietnam.

For those who missed it, saw posts already on this forum of the Ford arriving in Crete. I'm not seeing any damage by Iranian missiles.

So the alleged hits on the carrier as speculated by a number of folks here were imaginary or the Navy is very skilled at camouflaging the damage.

My bet is the former.
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Reread what Beijing walker said , he said aircraft carriers will be sitting ducks in future wars with major powers.... that's pretty accurate assessment , you are dragging the discussion towards something he didn't contest.
 
Much to the belief of BeijingWalker, a carrier is still very relevant in this day and age. Nothing suggests power projection better than a CSG.

If a carrier is being rendered irrelevant or obsolete as suggested by BW, then explain to me why China continues to invest in the development of carriers. That logic makes zero sense whatsoever.
 
mythbuster said:
Reread what Beijing walker said , he said aircraft carriers will be sitting ducks in future wars with major powers.... that's pretty accurate assessment , you are dragging the discussion towards something he didn't contest.
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No, it's not. My post #819 landed just as you posted this. Consider that.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Much to the belief of BeijingWalker, a carrier is still very relevant in this day and age. Nothing suggests power projection better than a CSG.

If a carrier is being rendered irrelevant or obsolete as suggested by BW, then explain to me why China continues to invest in the development of carriers. That logic makes zero sense whatsoever.
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Neither Chinese carriers nor American ones will be effective against eachother.... they are to keep lesser powers in check ... that's what America had been doing since world war 2...
 
mythbuster said:
Neither Chinese carriers nor American ones will be effective against eachother.... they are to keep lesser powers in check ... that's what America had been doing since world war 2...
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Which lesser powers do you think China is going to keep in check?
 
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