US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Anatolia]

 

[Shags101]

weren’t the Iranians hitting ships on a regular basis trump is going to making himself look silly he needs actual competent people speaking for America he’s not competent at all

 

[F-22Raptor]

weren’t the Iranians hitting ships on a regular basis trump is going to making himself look silly he needs actual competent people speaking for America he’s not competent at all

They’ve hit a very small amount over the last 6 weeks.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Underwhelming response from Iran. 8 missiles a couple days ago, 1-2 so far today. This has been a consistent trend for Iran for months now. They no longer have the capability to fire missiles in significant volumes.

 

[F-22Raptor]

US may be targeting BM launch sites

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

It’s a two way street as we have seen Iran has been hitting plenty of targets with pinpoint accuracy and Iran can produce these their missiles far quicker than America can replace their interceptors so far 7 year back log just to replace their allies and every time they have a skirmish that backlog gets longer

How so? Please elaborate.

The US firing hundreds of missiles, dropping hundreds of bombs and launching hundreds of interceptors demonstrates the enormous depth of its military-industrial base and its ability to sustain a very high operational tempo.

On the other hand, what we've seen from Iran is largely the expenditure of a missile stockpile that was accumulated over many years—not something that was produced over the past four or five years.

Iran certainly has a domestic missile-production capability, but there is a huge difference between having the ability to manufacture missiles and having the industrial capacity to mass-produce them at the scale required to sustain a prolonged war.

If Iran really had an enormous ability to mass-produce missiles, it had decades to build up that industrial capacity. You would therefore expect to see the same kind of industrial depth reflected in other areas of its military, particularly its air-defence systems.

So, please tell us where this claim comes from that Iran can produce missiles faster than the United States—especially when Iran is operating under sanctions, with damaged production infrastructure and a severely weakened economy, while the US has an enormous industrial base and vastly greater access to capital, technology and raw materials.

The evidence so far seems to demonstrate the opposite: Iran can produce missiles, but the US has a vastly greater capacity to manufacture and replenish sophisticated munitions at scale.

 

[Shags101]

They’ve hit a very small amount over the last 6 weeks.

Yeah doesn’t seem like it and the targets they have hit weren’t cheap to say the least

 

[F-22Raptor]

How so? Please elaborate.

The US firing hundreds of missiles, dropping hundreds of bombs and launching hundreds of interceptors demonstrates the enormous depth of its military-industrial base and its ability to sustain a very high operational tempo.

On the other hand, what we've seen from Iran is largely the expenditure of a missile stockpile that was accumulated over many years—not something that was produced over the past four or five years.

Iran certainly has a domestic missile-production capability, but there is a huge difference between having the ability to manufacture missiles and having the industrial capacity to mass-produce them at the scale required to sustain a prolonged war.

If Iran really had an enormous ability to mass-produce missiles, it had decades to build up that industrial capacity. You would therefore expect to see the same kind of industrial depth reflected in other areas of its military, particularly its air-defence systems.

So, please tell us where this claim comes from that Iran can produce missiles faster than the United States—especially when Iran is operating under sanctions, with damaged production infrastructure and a severely weakened economy, while the US has an enormous industrial base and vastly greater access to capital, technology and raw materials.

The evidence so far seems to demonstrate the opposite: Iran can produce missiles, but the US has a vastly greater capacity to manufacture and replenish sophisticated munitions at scale.

JASSM-ER/Tomahawk production is at 120/per month at full procurement today. My estimate for the current stockpile of JASSM/Tomahawk is 6,000-6,500 today. JASSM should be fully restocked to prewar levels by next year.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Yeah doesn’t seem like it and the targets they have hit weren’t cheap to say the least

The US estimates they’ve hit <5% of tankers flowing through the southern route since July. It’s in a previous post of mine.

 

[Shags101]

The US estimates they’ve hit <5% of tankers flowing through the southern route since July. It’s in a previous post of mine.

Dude those tankers and especially the ones filled up with 200 million dollars worth of oil isn’t cheap and after this next round I don’t think these ships will be risking it for awhile

 

[F-22Raptor]

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Dude those tankers and especially the ones filled up with 200 million dollars worth of oil isn’t cheap and after this next round I don’t think these ships will be risking it for awhile

You guys keep saying this, but oil has continued flowing from the Gulf to the rest of the world.

Please tell us exactly how many days there have actually been no shipping activity.

The world simply doesn't care whether Iran lives or dies. It has billions of people to look after and its own economies and energy security to worry about.