US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

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Are there any side effects to the crew continuously being frazzled from such high powered radars on both sides?
Even simpler stuff like The AC130 gunships did have higher brain cancer rates for its crew
 
No way US will go for anything on the ground, absolutely no way. If Israel could not shift Hezboallah positions and is now getting smacked around despite overwhelming armour and air superiority, you can forget about destroying Iranian dug in positions.

IRGC compared to Hezb will be like me comparing myself to Mike Tyson in his prime....
 
جوبا said:
Are there any side effects to the crew continuously being frazzled from such high powered radars on both sides?
Even simpler stuff like The AC130 gunships did have higher brain cancer rates for its crew
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Interior is shielded with gold plated cage.
 
Yasser76 said:
No way US will go for anything on the ground, absolutely no way. If Israel could not shift Hezboallah positions and is now getting smacked around despite overwhelming armour and air superiority, you can forget about destroying Iranian dug in positions.

IRGC compared to Hezb will be like me comparing myself to Mike Tyson in his prime....
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Hazb when fighting like conventional military vs Israel got pounded. Now they resort to asymmetrical warfare and are proving successful because this is their forte. No way they can go up against IDF in conventual warfare.

Similarly IDF is not designed for long range ground combat vs Iran. Ground ops misdirection for complex and protracted aerial campaign.
 
Yasser76 said:
No way US will go for anything on the ground, absolutely no way. If Israel could not shift Hezboallah positions and is now getting smacked around despite overwhelming armour and air superiority, you can forget about destroying Iranian dug in positions.

IRGC compared to Hezb will be like me comparing myself to Mike Tyson in his prime....
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The main difference is, the Americans can absorb the losses on a greater scale in comparison to Israel. Hezbollah is resorting to assymetrical warfare, similar to what they did in the late 2000s against Israel and it's proving successful.

The main issue here for the Americans will be logistics as this will be a very massive amphibious assault on Iran (either the islands or the mainland but realistically the American may go for the islands)
 
RescueRanger said:
Hazb when fighting like conventional military vs Israel got pounded. Now they resort to asymmetrical warfare and are proving successful because this is their forte. No way they can go up against IDF in conventual warfare.

Similarly IDF is not designed for long range ground combat vs Iran. Ground ops misdirection for complex and protracted aerial campaign.
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Yeah, so Iran can use asymmetrical tactics too, and IDF look like they are losing a fair chunk of men and tanks.

Iranian Army and IRGC will be better equipped, better dug in, better motivated and know very piece of land.

US has massive FOBs and air superiority in Iraq and Afghan and struggled, this will be much much worse I think, by a factor of 10.

Any talk of an invasion is just to help negotiations
 
Yasser76 said:
Yeah, so Iran can use asymmetrical tactics too, and IDF look like they are losing a fair chunk of men and tanks.

Iranian Army and IRGC will be better equipped, better dug in, better motivated and know very piece of land.

US has massive FOBs and air superiority in Iraq and Afghan and struggled, this will be much much worse I think, by a factor of 10.

Any talk of an invasion is just to help negotiations
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Iran is already fighting unconventional war since it cannot match the US conventionally.
 
MirageV3ff said:
The main difference is, the Americans can absorb the losses on a greater scale in comparison to Israel. Hezbollah is resorting to assymetrical warfare, similar to what they did in the late 2000s against Israel and it's proving successful.

The main issue here for the Americans will be logistics as this will be a very massive amphibious assault on Iran (either the islands or the mainland but realistically the American may go for the islands)
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Yes, that was another point. The logistics. They will also be going in with no armoured support (unsure how much armour a MEU can put ashore here)
 
j_hungary said:
Well, I don't know, but quite a lot of people would say Trump is doing this to preserve the Petrol Dollar status. I am just trying to explain how the Petrol Dollar works. I see that as debunking a myth for this war. Was it off topic? It's up to you
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I see the topic as related as I'm also looking at this from the broader perspective of overall world economic impact.
 
Yasser76 said:
Yes, that was another point. The logistics. They will also be going in with no armoured support (unsure how much armour a MEU can put ashore here)
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Likely none though I'll check with some brothers later to confirm.

Under Commandant Berger's guidance regarding Force Restructuring 2030, the Corps was going to divest itself of its heavy armor and most of its artillery. Oh! And engineers.
 
Yasser76 said:
True, but it can get much worse, for the Americans as well as Iran.
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Americans can absorb losses but their tolerance threshold is determined by risk aversion, domestic politics and economic shock.

Granted America is well suited to absorbing economic shock compared to most western nations. But no nation is a monolith.
 
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