US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[AZ_HighCountry]

Trump is mentally unwell on top of his dementia related issues, that is clear for all to see - so why does the American political system allow him such free reign and why does it not move to remove him from power ?

For the same reasons Biden wasn't removed from office.

 

[Ali_Baba]

For the same reasons Biden wasn't removed from office.

Yes - A non functional/dysfunctional political system. I keep on making the same mistake again and again, that the USA is a true democracy with checks and balances in place that work, when we can see that is not the case.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yes - A non functional/dysfunctional political system. I keep on making the same mistake again and again, that the USA is a true democracy with checks and balances in place that work, when we can see that is not the case.

When everyone is happily suckling from the golden teat, why would anyone want to upset the apple cart?

These people will bloviate incessantly to satisfy their otherwise low information base all while raking in the Benjamins.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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At least you're off work for the next few days.

 

[j_hungary]

Oil trade directly impacts production. Production impacts GDP. When one major market falls, a domino effect starts in all markets linked to it. Pretty obvious facts. I am not going to argue over basic facts of economics. I am not your teacher.

Well, first of all, oil price impacts production, that's true, the question here is "HOW BIG IS THE IMPACT?" You are talking about how the oil price itself is currently less than 25% of the impact if you break down each economic factor. You won't get to a point where it impacts the economy as a whole. We aren't talking about 200%+ impact; that's very far from that if you're only talking about a 5% or 10% surcharge. The last US recession is 2008, when the inflation rate was at ~10%. Currently, it's 3.6, half of what we had in 2021, post-COVID, and we weren't in a recession then....

And during the great recession of the 1920s, the inflation rate was around 20% before it hit. We are nowhere near that level of inflation. And even then, the economy didn't collapse.....

Not to mention, your entire argument is based on an assumption that a market WILL fall, which you don't have enough data or proof to show that such an assumption exists.

And I don't think you have enough knowledge in economics to be my teacher. I had 2 post graduate degrees in Economics........

And do explain, how are you more prepared now? Because strategic petroleum reserves have not been fully replenished yet as far as I know. So, if anything, you are less prepared than 4 months ago.

huh? Do you know oil is transported by tanker, right? Those are NOT set to ONLY go to the Gulf and pick up their oil. It's not a "it's either gulf or bust: scenario

4 months is MORE THAN ENOUGH to divert a tanker from the Gulf to the other part of the world to keep the oil floating. And the US itself has increased the oil production by 3.6 million bbpd. That is beside the production increase between Canada, Norway and Russia) And as time goes by, that number can only go up, not down.

Another strawman fallacy. I never said that the Brent price was the reason for anything. I said the Brent price was the benchmark throughout the world for oil prices in Asia and Europe. Besides that, WTI price is also strongly correlated with the Brent price. So, in the end it makes no difference whatsoever as both prices are rising rapidly.

Well, I will then say the strawman fallacy is that you keep saying Brent applies to the world (again, they aren't applied to America and Russia)

Also, you are talking about a difference of less than $8 a barrel.

AND finally, I was talking in the US perspective.......Again, ONLY the US can end this war.......

They have no say in anything. They're a tiny puppet state.


Iraq is at the mercy of Iran. We can choke their exports any minute and they rely on Iran for even electricity. Kuwait is a joke. The UAE is a beautiful house made of glass. Only Saudi Arabia is militarily relevant in the Persian Gulf.

That's actually reinforcing my point that the Gulf country alone does not have enough strength to protect the Gulf.......

No, it's not. Again, I am not your teacher. Google the difference between luxury goods and necessity goods. It is very ignorant not to know this sort of basic stuff and yet argue about economics.

When the price of a luxury good increases, demand for it decreases. When the price of a necessity good increases, the demand does not decrease beyond a certain threshold.

Consider wheat as a necessity good. If tomorrow the price of wheat goes up by 300%, it doesn't mean that the demand will decrease to reach the point of equilibrium, unless you accept that millions of people should die due to famine which is not a solution, but a disaster.

Dude, you are arguing with the basic macroeconomic theory. Do you even understand the concept of price equilibrium?

And yes, if the price of wheat is going to increase by 300% tomorrow, then millions of people, mostly from Africa WILL die of starvation. Because they WON'T be able to afford them regardless of how vital it was to their survival. And the price equilibrium concept is to exactly used to prevent that, because there is ALWAYS a price that will match the demand to optimise profit, otherwise you will only see the price going up and up.

And no, demand drop-off can occur at ANY price level.

I am not your economics teacher, so I would suggest you go Google what a demand drop-off and price equilibrium are.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Were Alqaeda or ISIS or Taliban or RSF supported by Tehran ?

BBC CNN really screws up some minds.

Is Al-Qaida, ISIS, Taliban or RSF ruling the US?

Taliban has been ruling Afghanistan since August 2021, yet not a single country has bothered to recognise their rule. Why is that?

Maybe the IRGC and the Taliban should at least recognise each other, and they're both ruling an ancient nation each.

 

[Flotilla]

Maybe the IRGC and the Taliban should at least recognise each other, and they're both ruling an ancient nation each.

I agree, for the reception we can call Mike Pompeo...

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Didn't I say something along the lines of "wait until tomorrow?"

 

[Shags101]

For the same reasons Biden wasn't removed from office.

you have a Biden fixation but here’s the differences between sleepy joe and Trump one you had capable people around one guy and people who will only say yes to Trump never a no or you got fired faster than if you were on his Apprentice show(never watched it hate “reality” shows) two they stopped him from running a second term they saw his mental capacity was going south but no one told Trump hey maybe to make America great again maybe you shouldn’t run for a second term

 

[KAL-EL]

you have a Biden fixation but here’s the differences between sleepy joe and Trump one you had capable people around one guy and people who will only say yes to Trump never a no or you got fired faster than if you were on his Apprentice show(never watched it hate “reality” shows) two they stopped him from running a second term they saw his mental capacity was going south but no one told Trump hey maybe to make America great again maybe you shouldn’t run for a second term

If Biden was still in office, there would be no war

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

14/07/2026: Iran reports new explosions on Qeshm, Kish islands while Kuwait says air defences engaging ‘hostile aerial targets': The Express Tribune

14/07/2026: Strikes hit Iran's Gulf island of Qeshm: Iranian state TV: Business Recorder

Here we go again.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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I guess he changed his mind about these strikes. most people recognise this facility is beyond the reach of any conventional, and possibly even nuclear, weapon.

 

[ShapurII]

My Shia brother, I am not saying what the West thinks of the Arab and the Muslim World but rather what the Arab and the Muslim World thinks of Iran post 1979.

And no, I am not saying Iran is not a Muslim country but rather what every Arab and Muslim country thinks of Iran post 1979. No Arab or Muslim country had a problem with Iran pre-1979.

Look at Azerbaijan and it's positive and well respected relationships with the Arab and the Muslim World.

Yes, I understood your point but that was irrelevant as we were discussing the US demands in negotiations. And I think we both agree that the US does not care one iota about what the Muslims think of Iran. The US cares about the position of Israel in the region and her ambitions.

The reason that most of those Arab states have a problem with Iran is in fact because Iran is standing by the side of Palestinians and has anti-imperialist ideas. An issue that is absolutely none of our business in my opinion. The Shah of Iran wasn't fond of Arabs and anti-Arab sentiments were at its peak during the time of the Shah, but Arabs kissed the Shah's ass because the US and Israel liked him. Arab states like anybody that is in the US team. If you talk to older generations of Iranians, they hated all Arabs with a passion. Yet, none of the Arab states minded it. So, now that Iran is in fact helping Arabs, why are these Arab states hating Iran so much?

Anyway, the moment that Iran decides to respect the US order in the Middle East, all the Arab starts will obey the US decision and will become our brothers. And the US cannot care less about what the Arabs think if Iran agrees to coexist with Israel and joins the US team, which I think is inevitable.

 

[Shags101]

If Biden was still in office, there would be no war

Never say never I’m no Biden fan either I just like to pick on him because he enjoys bringing up sleepy joe as much as Trump does I would have taken Kamala but she couldn’t stand up to Israel at al that was one of her biggest downfalls her second was not going on Joe rogen show calling out Trump for another debate because he was to afraid after losing the first one