US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Bratva]

"would meet Jewish leaders if present regime falls" is the speculation. If that happens, I would condemn it, just as I condemn the Arabs actually meeting with Zionists, which you notably cannot condemn as you are obsessed with bashing Iran instead.

Let's not get personal and start labeling others if they differ with your obsession of arabs and syrian President. Lets stick to US-IRAN war and discuss the morality or lack of, in both parties.

 

[royalharris]

"holding the world hostage through the strait".

You are parroting Hegseth. Where is the world by the way for Gaza or Iran?

Iran has been very clear, security for all or for none. Us can't choke Iran through its regional puppies. For many years Iran told regional countries lets establish security in the Persian Gulf without external forces (US), just like security architecture in Caspian sea without US.

Now it's too late, Iran should establish new security architecture in Persian Gulf.

Every country has its own choices. If Iran uses force to coerce other countries, that is regional hegemonism. The whole world would not support Iran, including China, which appears neutral on the surface but actually supports Iran. I hope the United States strikes Iran hard, even using nuclear weapons.

 

[Davey Crockett]

seems like there is no turning back the blue wave in mid-terms, probably for the good. Lets hope that some Democrats actually stand up to the AIPAC and end the war, working class Americans are struggling, all that money better go towards them instead of wars.

 

[The SC]

"holding the world hostage through the strait".

You are parroting Hegseth. Where is the world by the way for Gaza or Iran?

Iran has been very clear, security for all or for none. Us can't choke Iran through its regional puppies. For many years Iran told regional countries lets establish security in the Persian Gulf without external forces (US), just like security architecture in Caspian sea without US.

Now it's too late, Iran should establish new security architecture in Persian Gulf.

Iran is not a nuclear superpower that can impose a new security architecture in Persian Gulf.. the Us will see to it..the Arabs will see to it, the Europeans will see to it and even China will see to it..among many others like Japan, and south Korea..

 

[BigMela2onin]

seems like there is no turning back the blue wave in mid-terms, probably for the good. Lets hope that some Democrats actually stand up to the AIPAC and end the war,

I will go ahead and say they won't

working class Americans are struggling, all that money better go towards them instead of wars.

I will go ahead and say it won't

 

[F-22Raptor]

have you been on a different planet to the rest of us. Have you not ready our earlier posts on this threads

You are wrong in that US is graded on ultra maximim obejectives its simply not. They along with their proxy started this war and have not only not achieved (despite massive advantages of size etc) any objective but their actions have resulted in Straits blocked by Iran. So not only not achieved their goals but have an extra one ie open the straits


We didnt expect Iran to survive an attack from US over 50 states massive advantage in population and resources and Iran is surviving and managing to close straits. Any neutral person has to admire their resiliance.

Why do you a Muslim speak ill of our fellow muslims against Kaffir Americans and their proxies in any event your American perspective should be on American perspective not here

I’m not a Muslim first of all.

Second, the US achieved all of its military objectives:

Destruction of Irans nuclear industrial base and HEU buried- check

Destruction of Irans missile and drone industrial base, and significant degradation of its stockpiles- check

Destruction of Irans navy- check

Significant degradation of Irans terrorist proxies and its ability to project power- check

Iran is currently blockaded and tankers are still making it through the Omani passage. Iran is getting bombed 100X over for every terror attack. Its economy is in total ruins. Irans current approach is completely unsustainable.

 

[Watandar]

Nope you should have kept your hands to yourselves and did not intervene in Arab affairs..they wanted a diplomatic two state solution to the Palestinian conflict and you sabotaged their work because you wanted war..

Arabs have teached you honor by destroying your empire 3 times..don't get too arrogant..

The "Arabs" are not some monolith and plenty among them, like Palestinians or Yemenis or Lebanese or Sudanese, have been deeply hurt by the machinations of western sponsored Arab despots. Demanding that others "not intefere" when such injustice is taking place, is wrong and un realistic.

The rich Gulf states made their bed by allying with the US openly and Israel in secret. Now they can sleep in it.

 

[The SC]

U.S. Central Command announces the conclusion of its eleventh round at exactly 03:15 a.m. local time Targets struck:

• Iranian military operations centers
• Naval capabilities
• Aircraft hangars
• Drone storage facilities
• Military logistical infrastructure

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[MS Sandhu]

Every country has its own choices. If Iran uses force to coerce other countries, that is regional hegemonism. The whole world would not support Iran, including China, which appears neutral on the surface but actually supports Iran. I hope the United States strikes Iran hard, even using nuclear weapons.

Even though Iran has played very nasty role in the region creating militant proxies in weak countries exploiting their faultlines.
American current approach to kill those Iranian Leaders behind all this mess is enough.
Killing the innocent masses through nuclear strikes who even don't have any nay say in matters to elect or remove the molvis from power is a war crime and very serious one.

 

[The SC]

The "Arabs" are not some monolith and plenty among them, like Palestinians or Yemenis or Lebanese or Sudanese, have been deeply hurt by the machinations of western sponsored Arab despots. Demanding that others "not intefere" when such injustice is taking place, is wrong and un realistic.

The rich Gulf states made their bed by allying with the US openly and Israel in secret. Now they can sleep in it.

Why Western sponsored Arab machinations and not just Western machinations..we have the proof and blueprints everywhere in the Arab world..

 

[F-22Raptor]

Even though Iran has played very nasty role in the region creating militant proxies in weak countries exploiting their faultlines.
American current approach to kill those Iranian Leaders behind all this mess is enough.
Killing the innocent masses through nuclear strikes who even don't have any nay say in matters to elect or remove the molvis from power is a war crime and very serious one.

The US is not targeting Iranian leaders in this current phase. Sole focus seems to be degrading Irans ability to conduct terror attacks along the Strait.

 

[royalharris]

Internationally, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps should be designated as a terrorist organization.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Every country has its own choices. If Iran uses force to coerce other countries, that is regional hegemonism. The whole world would not support Iran, including China, which appears neutral on the surface but actually supports Iran. I hope the United States strikes Iran hard, even using nuclear weapons.

It does not work like that, Iran or Afghanistan cannot station 50000 Indian soldiers next to Pakistans border for example. Ukraine cannot put NATO next to Russian border.

From your rants I guess you're a frustrated lowlife, with no knowledge about International Law.

1. The 1907 Hague Convention V (War on Land)

• Relevance to Kuwait: Under Articles 2 and 5, Kuwait is bound to prevent foreign belligerents (the US) from using its land territory as a transit point or staging ground for military supply convoys and troop movements deployed against Iran. By allowing these bases to actively logistically facilitate or launch offensive military actions against Iran, Kuwait risks violating its structural obligations under the law of land neutrality.

2. The 1907 Hague Convention XIII (War at Sea)

• Relevance to Bahrain: Bahrain hosts the US Navy's 5th Fleet. Article 5 of this convention explicitly forbids warring states from utilizing a neutral country's ports, harbors, or territorial waters as a base for naval operations, refueling, or logistical resupply against an enemy. If the 5th Fleet executes offensive operations or maritime logistics targeting Iran directly from Manama, Bahrain is technically in breach of maritime neutrality laws.
  
  
• Once a country becomes a co-belligerent by providing active logistics to an attacker, the target state (Iran) gains the legal right to target those exact logistics nodes and bases under the framework of self-defense (Article 51 of the UN Charter).

 

[The SC]

WSJ: The US military is deploying more fighter jet squadrons across the Middle East, putting bombers at US and British bases on high alert for possible intensified operations against Iran

@mfu46

 

[Watandar]

Every country has its own choices. If Iran uses force to coerce other countries, that is regional hegemonism. The whole world would not support Iran, including China, which appears neutral on the surface but actually supports Iran. I hope the United States strikes Iran hard, even using nuclear weapons.

What planet do you live on ? The only country that practices global hegemony through the brute force of hard power is the US. You have 100 plus years of historical evidence of this.

Are you forgetting who started this war and who invaded Iraq in 2003 and all the other conflicts in between ?