US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

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The United States has informed Israel of its intention to escalate and use bombers in the coming days in the attack. Ali Iran

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I think we are closer to seeing bombers participate in theater. B1s have been repositioned to the UK since their PM reauthorized use of strategic bases:
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B52s were tracked performing drills today over in the US.
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The SC said:
That only means that the US troops in these bases are assigned to transfer of technology..support and overhaul of weapons purchased from the US..They are not combat units!
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That's some crazy mental gymnastics there bro.

This claim is incorrect; US forces in Kuwait and Bahrain are not merely administrative, non-combat personnel. These bases actively serve as the strategic logistical anchors for US and allied combat operations in the Middle East.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
Iranian deterrence failed, we already know that.

But did the US manage to deter strikes on its bases across the region? Did Israel manage to deter strikes on its capital from Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, or Iran? No, so why the double standard for Iran?
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In my opinion, there isn't a double standard here.

It is often said that the United States has more than 700 military bases around the world. Yet, how many of those has Iran directly attacked since 2025?

The military facilities that have reportedly come under attack are, for the most part, located close to Iran and are primarily in the smaller Gulf Arab states.

NATO leaders also met in Türkiye recently, where the NATO Secretary General publicly stated that the United States had flown over 5,000 sorties from bases in Europe during operations involving Iran earlier this year.

If European governments have publicly acknowledged supporting those operations, then I find it striking that Iran's rhetoric and threats appear to focus far more on smaller Gulf Arab states—such as Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar—even though those countries have repeatedly stated that they do not wish to become parties to the conflict.

From my perspective, that raises an obvious question: why does Iran appear to direct so much of its pressure and rhetoric toward the Arab Gulf states rather than toward the European countries whose governments have publicly acknowledged supporting US operations?

In my view, that inconsistency is difficult to explain, and it is one reason why I believe Iran has struggled to build broader regional support.
 
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In my opinion, there isn't a double standard here.

It is often said that the United States has more than 700 military bases around the world. Yet, how many of those has Iran directly attacked since 2025?

The military facilities that have reportedly come under attack are, for the most part, located close to Iran and are primarily in the smaller Gulf Arab states.

NATO leaders also met in Türkiye recently, where the NATO Secretary General publicly stated that the United States had flown over 5,000 sorties from bases in Europe during operations involving Iran earlier this year.

If European governments have publicly acknowledged supporting those operations, then I find it striking that Iran's rhetoric and threats appear to focus far more on smaller Gulf Arab states—such as Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar—even though those countries have repeatedly stated that they do not wish to become parties to the conflict.

From my perspective, that raises an obvious question: why does Iran appear to direct so much of its pressure and rhetoric toward the Arab Gulf states rather than toward the European countries whose governments have publicly acknowledged supporting US operations?

In my view, that inconsistency is difficult to explain, and it is one reason why I believe Iran has struggled to build broader regional support.
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You are wondering why Iran targets US bases close to Iran, and not US bases halfway across the world? I think you can figure it out.

Iran is a regional power and does not possess the ability to project power beyond the region. Obviously we will focus our firepower on the US threats closest to our borders.
 
A great article for once in CFR. All those US military bases in the Mideast have proven themselves liabilities for both the US and host nations. In the future the US may use bases far away from Iran , most likely in Israel.

Article mentions Al Udeid in Qatar was built at the cost of $2 billion by the government in 1996 and the Qataris have since spent $6 billion on it maintaining and upgrading it.

www.cfr.org

To Base or Not to Base: The Iran War Exposes Flaws of U.S. Basing in the Middle East | Council on Foreign Relations

U.S. military installations across the Gulf sit within easy range of Iranian missiles, a legacy of basing decisions made when U.S. forces faced far less capable adversaries. As the war exposes that vulnerability, a case is building to reposition U.S. forces farther from Iran’s reach.
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Persian Gulf said:
I don’t care about Sunni vs Shia. Iran was indeed previously one of these U.S. proxies until 1979. It no longer is. But many of our neighbours still are and they enable the US to strike our civilians and infrastructure from their territory, and no one can accept that.
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Have people forgotten the extensive barrel bombing campaign against civilian areas in Syria carried out by Butcher Al-Assad's regime, which Iran strongly supported politically, militarily, and financially?

I also remember seeing some pro-Iran voices on this forum defending or celebrating the destruction inflicted on Syrian villages, towns and cities.

Where was the moral outrage back then? Why did so many people who are vocal today appear silent when Syrian civilians were suffering?

In my personal opinion, the immense suffering inflicted on innocent Syrians—including children, mothers, and the elderly—with the support and involvement of the IRGC is one of the darkest chapters in the region's recent history. As a Muslim, I believe that no nation or leadership should assume it is beyond accountability. Ultimately, Allah (Aza wa Jall) is the Supreme Judge, and justice belongs to Him alone. It's possible that the Judgement Day for Iran has arrived.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
During the 1998 massacre of Iranian consulate staff in Mazar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan, Pakistan was widely criticized internationally for backing the Taliban regime and acting as its primary diplomatic conduit.

Iranian attacks against US bases are not targeting Pakistanis or any other nationality.
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The Taliban also beat members of the Pakistani cricket team for allegedly violating Afghan cultural norms.

They destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas, prompting international condemnation.

They also refused repeated international demands including Pakistan's after the 11 September attacks to hand over Al-Qaeda's leadership.

If your argument is that Pakistan is somehow Iran's enemy simply because Pakistan refuses to become an instrument of Iranian regional policy, then just say so directly instead of implying it.

What I find interesting is that, despite all the rhetoric, Iran's current leadership has reportedly looked to Pakistan as a potential mediator. That, in my view, suggests Pakistan occupies a different position than the one you're brainwashed with.
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
The Taliban also beat members of the Pakistani cricket team for allegedly violating Afghan cultural norms.

They destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas, prompting international condemnation.

They also refused repeated international demands including Pakistan's after the 11 September attacks to hand over Al-Qaeda's leadership.

If your argument is that Pakistan is somehow Iran's enemy simply because Pakistan refuses to become an instrument of Iranian regional policy, then just say so directly instead of implying it.

What I find interesting is that, despite all the rhetoric, Iran's current leadership has reportedly looked to Pakistan as a potential mediator. That, in my view, suggests Pakistan occupies a different position than the one you're brainwashed with.
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You're talking to yourself, I never wrote any of this.
 
Persian Gulf said:
Who gives a shit what the European Council says? Do you? These guys are slaves to the US. Why should people from West / Central / South Asia rely on White Europeans to tell us who is "terrorist" and who is not?
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Ah, everybody is a "slave" who isn't serving as a willing cannon fodder for Iran.

Any reason Iranians are not pleading to Hezbollah to attack Israel again like last time to divert Israeli airstrikes from Iran to Lebanon instead?

Or is Iran only going to activate Hezbollah again if and when Israel starts bombing Iran again?
 
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