US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Persian Gulf]

I would rather be interested in understanding, how that helo was flying there in the broad daylight!

in the video, it was shown that, IR security personnel were bombed, in the broad daylight!


now, this raises an important question!

how much bombing can they survive, if simultaneous air drop takes place!


although, it would take very brave USA leader to decide that, Trump, who is under pressure bec, of elections would take time to decide it!


with severe economic pressure, it is only matter of time, that this takes place!



Further, IR strikes always come retaliation.... this would soon become very problematic for IR, as there will nothing remain to fire!

4 helos didn’t make it out and the few that did were damaged with injuries to crew

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

4 helos didn’t make it out and the few that did were damaged with injuries to crew

that is true, as is shown in the image that was circulated after 8th April.

but, your analysis assumes, tolerance level will remain same!

once the elections are over, this tolerance could change!

and in-tolerance towards any causality could lead to much focused bombing in a particular area to secure a landing place!


although, with mounting economic pressure, such intolerance could not survive the public pressure. But still possibility is still there!

 

[Flotilla]

Did they mention the A-10 and two MQ-9s Iran shot down as well?

And two MC130 from the Marines.

 

[Persian Gulf]

that is true, as is shown in the image that was circulated after 8th April.

but, your analysis assumes, tolerance level will remain same!

once the elections are over, this tolerance could change!

and in-tolerance towards any causality could lead to much focused bombing in a particular area to secure a landing place!


although, with mounting economic pressure, such intolerance could not survive the public pressure. But still possibility is still there!

I didn’t assume anything or offer analysis

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I didn’t assume anything or offer analysis

of course, why would you, any one can see the difference in the scale of losses on either side!

clock ticking for both!


US bases arent going away from this region!

 

[Raider 21]

Does this documentary explain what happened to all the aircraft carcasses left behind in Iran?

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Don't know, they aren't the type to include losses these days

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And two MC130 from the Marines.

The Marine Corps does not fly the MC-130. They operate the KC-130.

USAF operates the MC-130.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Meant to get this link posted earlier today. As most know, I frequent TWZ for a lot of information. This is definitely the US perspective even if obviously sanitized for OpSec reasons:

Airmen Under Fire: Stories From Iranian Barrages On U.S. Bases

Air Force Chief Of Staff Gen. Wilsbach offered vignettes of airmen performing under punishing Iranian attacks.

www.twz.com

 

[PK781]

OT but ukraine striking russian energy supplies/infrastructure is not going to go well with Putin, and will increase the likeliness of Putin going mad and launching his big toys at entire europe which itself can trigger shit in europe

Same with when oil/diesel supply problem begins, it will trigger chaos and civil disobedience/law and order situations worldwide when supplies run low and things come to a standstill. From foods to jobs to necessities, it will be bad.

I guess many analysts are not wrong when they say we're already in phases of WW3. I wish all these warhawks would come to their senses and make peace before the world is ruined and in ashes everywhere.

 

[KAL-EL]

of course, why would you, any one can see the difference in the scale of losses on either side!

clock ticking for both!


US bases arent going away from this region!

It's war and losses are going to happen to either side.

Difference being is that the US losses are essentially a drop in the bucket.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It's war and losses are going to happen to either side.

Difference being is that the US losses are essentially a drop in the bucket.

In the overall scheme, correct. Military losses have been at a minimum. Some expensive losses in material and equipment. On the human side, minimal. The last time we suffered minimal casualties was Shield / Storm.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

OT but ukraine striking russian energy supplies/infrastructure is not going to go well with Putin, and will increase the likeliness of Putin going mad and launching his big toys at entire europe which itself can trigger shit in europe

Same with when oil/diesel supply problem begins, it will trigger chaos and civil disobedience/law and order situations worldwide when supplies run low and things come to a standstill. From foods to jobs to necessities, it will be bad.

I guess many analysts are not wrong when they say we're already in phases of WW3. I wish all these warhawks would come to their senses and make peace before the world is ruined and in ashes everywhere.

I beg to differ with the analysts. From mine and the perspective of others of similar mindsets, WW3 has been underway about the time of the first WTC bombing in 1993. One of the folks suggested perhaps as far back as October 1983 with the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut.

The only thing that has changed since then is the players and the locations with slow but gradual escalations with occasional flare-ups lasting longer each time;

- Shield / Storm
- Somalia
- OEF
- OIF
- Russia-Ukraine

And countless others prior to, in between, concurrent, and afterwards.

Oh we're fighting WW3 alright. We just haven't gone all in yet.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It's war and losses are going to happen to either side.

Difference being is that the US losses are essentially a drop in the bucket.

thats true..


whats important here is to understand, what targets were taken out by BM

bec. thats not a single target, thats probably full product class!

suppose, one side has BM to destroy fast moving large ships, but does not want to reveal on the battlefield, the user of such ship would keep thinking dollar utility of my this ship class is far greater than money I spend on that!

(and that target could be a radar, ISR radar, ISR.. essentially a collapse hidden growth!)

until, that weapon shows up and results in a obsolescence of that whole class, which consists of 30 ships!


so, no.. it is not a matter of drop in a bucket, I'd rather worry about the scale of weight of the drop!

 

[KAL-EL]

thats true..


whats important here is to understand, what targets were taken out by BM

bec. thats not a single target, thats probably full product class!

suppose, one side has BM to destroy fast moving large ships, but does not want to reveal on the battlefield, the user of such ship would keep thinking dollar utility of my this ship class is far greater than money I spend on that!



until, that weapon shows up and results in a obsolescence of that whole class, which consists of 30 ships!


so, no.. it is not a matter of drop in a bucket, I'd rather worry about the scale of weight of the drop!

An interesting take..

Obviously Iran will take every little victory it can get...

It's war, even a country as powerful as the USA will get some losses.

But as I said again, a drop in the bucket compared to the losses of the other side.

And in conclusion.. I wish this war never happened

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

An interesting take..

Obviously Iran will take every little victory it can get...

It's war, even a country as powerful as the USA will get some losses.

But as I said again, a drop in the bucket compared to the losses of the other side.

And in conclusion.. I wish this war never happened

yes... you mentioned life losses on the IR side!

in any conflict since their arrival, and, even before that, they have demonstrated; lives do not matter when it comes to securing any national interest!

I would not take that as an IR defeat!

bec. if you do take that as an IR defeat, it would be a costly mistake, on the ground!