US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

Yasser76 said:
Geographic, economic and military block that could eventually include Iraq so in theory Pakistan, Iran, Turkiye, Iraq and Saudi could all be connected by land. The economic and military implications would be masssive
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Hold your horses. This alliance is a diplomatic channel for the region.true .but thinking that it's a military deterrence for anyone is a pure fantasy.Who you think this alliance can scare? US? Israel?
Even houthis aren't deterred.
 
MS Sandhu said:
Hold your horses. This alliance is a diplomatic channel for the region.true .but thinking that it's a military deterrence for anyone is a pure fantasy.Who you think this alliance can scare? US? Israel?
Even houthis aren't deterred.
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Easy sunshine, there are many forms of alliance, Houthis are slowly being taken care of
 
Iranian General is already declaring victory just because three countries landed in Tehran to talk some sense to their heads but it looks like that was a vain effort.
Ball in Trumpo's court now.
 
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Tweets like these are informative on the surface but require careful dissection and debunking because such claims can actively cause alarm and panic especially if the nation feels their "TV" signals are being blocked by a nation that is hostile to them.

For reference:
GPS operates between 1.2 and 1.5 GHz
KU band (Satellite TV) is 12 to 18 GHz
VHF Band III spectrum is 174-230 MHz
UHF Band IV and V is 470-862 MHz

Firstly, GPS Jamming which targets the above reference band will not automatically cause TV signal interference, what this tweet is describing is know as receiver overload a very real phenomenon, normally a TV receiver will receiver the very weak TV transmission and amplify it, filtering out unwanted noise and decode the digital information, if an extremely powerful signal is nearby it can overwhelm the receivers front end electronics.

This can happen even if there is conducted interference (from unshielded power cables or electrical interference along the power supply) or radiated interference - basically unwanted signals from a powerful radio transmitter.

See example below of receiver overload:
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However it is important to clarify what signals are being blocked, is it terrestrial VHF/UHF band (which could be down to interference) or satellite TV signals which operate on KU band (which normally wouldn't be affected by such interference outside of targeted EW operations blocking that band).
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Furthermore posting a map of ADSB signal interference doesn't in itself prove anything... GPS Jamming is not automatically TV signal jamming or broad spectrum jamming. Television signal reception interreference can occur due to additional emissions but it should not be treated as an element of EW on its own.
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This is why such tweets must always be taken with a truck load of salt as attributing EW attacks to any one country without ample evidence and facts just makes you look like a total ASS!
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Sorry, its just that tweets like this really annoy me... Just a rant, I am done now. 1793049286856.png
 
RescueRanger said:
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Tweets like these are informative on the surface but require careful dissection and debunking because such claims can actively cause alarm and panic especially if the nation feels their "TV" signals are being blocked by a nation that is hostile to them.

For reference:
GPS operates between 1.2 and 1.5 GHz
KU band (Satellite TV) is 12 to 18 GHz
VHF Band III spectrum is 174-230 MHz
UHF Band IV and V is 470-862 MHz

Firstly, GPS Jamming which targets the above reference band will not automatically cause TV signal interference, what this tweet is describing is know as receiver overload a very real phenomenon, normally a TV receiver will receiver the very weak TV transmission and amplify it, filtering out unwanted noise and decode the digital information, if an extremely powerful signal is nearby it can overwhelm the receivers front end electronics.

This can happen even if there is conducted interference (from unshielded power cables or electrical interference along the power supply) or radiated interference - basically unwanted signals from a powerful radio transmitter.

See example below of receiver overload:
View attachment 220973
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However it is important to clarify what signals are being blocked, is it terrestrial VHF/HUF band (which could be down to interference) or satellite TV signals which operate on KU band (which normally wouldn't be affected by such interference outside of targeted EW operations blocking that band).
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Furthermore posting a map of ADSB signal interference doesn't in itself prove anything... GPS Jamming is not automatically TV signal jamming or broad spectrum jamming. Television signal reception interreference can occur due to additional emissions but it should not be treated as an element of EW on its own.
View attachment 220974
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This is why such tweets must always be taken with a truck load of salt as attributing EW attacks to any one country without ample evidence and facts just makes you look like a total ASS!
...

Sorry, its just that tweets like this really annoy me... Just a rant, I am done now. View attachment 220975
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And people wonder why I am NOT a big fan of relying on Tweets as the sole source of the truth.
 
MS Sandhu said:
Iranian General is already declaring victory just because three countries landed in Tehran to talk some sense to their heads but it looks like that was a vain effort.
Ball in Trumpo's court now.
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If someone tells you that maybe you shouldn't poke the bear and you do it anyway, who is the victor here?
 
PK781 said:
Are the Arab countries of the Gulf going to join the war if they're attacked by Iran as a result of this war? Or will they take/absorb the hits like last time?
What if infrastructure and water de-salination plants are hit? Do the GCC have a defense/offense plan this time around?
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Of course they have..
check the meeting in Tehran..
 
Washington in Arabic:

In an unexpected development, Japan, Britain, France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands pledged to provide support to secure the Strait of Hormuz, retreating from their previous positions that rejected it. This came in light of American pressure and also the protests taking place in Europe due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the crazy rise in prices.
 
For a head of state to lead his country’s delegation to a meeting attended at the ministerial level of defense and security… this doesn’t happen in the world of diplomacy unless the matter is extremely pressing.

The grim faces give an impression of the kind of moment both sides and the region are living through.

Iran is demanding serious guarantees from the three countries to secure it from a new war—and this so that it can proceed with implementing a new interim peace agreement. And here, the three countries do not appear capable of providing such guarantees, because we’re talking about Washington living through internal chaos, Israel seething, Europe scattered, with horrific economies, biting cold looming on the horizon, and crippling, tangible energy prices.

All of it circumstances… that heighten the Iranians’ fears, weaken their internal policy options, and leave them with a provocative persona that no one trusts.

We wait and see… and perhaps a wise man will emerge among them… who shifts the compass toward a new era..

 
Trump chose to strike Iran, and attacking it is only a matter of time (CNN).
 
#Breaking | Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council: We have reached an understanding with Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia that the region's security is achieved through its countries.
 
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