US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[BananaRepublic]

To the “US Perspective-rs”…

What does US winning look like for you?

Not looking for a debate.

Just want people to put their cards on the table.

I am putting my cards on the table.

IMHO, Iran winning looks like the following:

1. Iran regime survives
2. Iran controls the SoH
3. Iran doesn’t hand over HEU to USA
4. Iran retains full freedom over developing ballistic missiles
5. Iran retains full control over its oil and gas exports and trade

Bonus:

Iran doesn’t allow return of IAEA without release of frozen funds and lifting of sanctions.

WE CAN ALSO ADD A DATE as well.

If USA doesn’t win by Jan 14th it’s probably over.

Definitely over by end of Trump’s term.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The agreement under discussion would see the swift reopening of the Strait of Hormuz by Iran in exchange for sanctions relief from the US, followed by comprehensive talks on Tehran’s nuclear program, the diplomat says

So I keep scratching my head if the strait is already open for anyone to pass with total freedom why are they offering sanctions relief honestly this could be just to buy Americans more time for the midterms but if it’s not looks like the Iranians are winning this match for now

That’s indeed a conundrum for a certain Raptor.

Why offer a ransom when you claim there’s no hostage?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Link?

U.S. Strikes Iran’s Qeshm Island as Trump Talks Down War Risks​

The U.S. attacked Iran’s Qeshm Island on Monday, U.S. officials said, in the latest of a series of limited strikes Washington has secretly carried out against the country in recent weeks as President Trump touted the possibility of a diplomatic deal.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-strikes-irans-qeshm-island-as-trump-talks-down-war-risks-79d73d3d?st=AcsApS&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

[F-22Raptor]

 

[Shags202]

Iran’s boosted weapons capabilities have caused up to $15B in US base damage: report

An analysis into the July 17 strike that killed three American service members at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan revealed how well Iran has improved its tactics — to exceptionally deva…

nypost.com

When right wing mouthpieces that are notorious trump mouthpieces are reporting it guess what it’s definitely true @F-22Raptor every month we are finding out more and more what really happened man 15 billion dollars just American facilities imagine Arab Israel and whatever else group or allies iran hit during the past year

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

To the “US Perspective-rs”…

What does US winning look like for you?

Not looking for a debate.

Just want people to put their cards on the table.

I am putting my cards on the table.

IMHO, Iran winning looks like the following:

1. Iran regime survives
2. Iran controls the SoH
3. Iran doesn’t hand over HEU to USA
4. Iran retains full freedom over developing ballistic missiles
5. Iran retains full control over its oil and gas exports and trade

Bonus:

Iran doesn’t allow return of IAEA without release of frozen funds and lifting of sanctions.

WE CAN ALSO ADD A DATE as well.

If USA doesn’t win by Jan 14th it’s probably over.

Definitely over by end of Trump’s term.

Wishful thinking at best.

 

[RescueRanger]

UK is a superpower, noone dares to point finger never mind attack the UK.

Is that sarcasm???

 

[RescueRanger]

To the “US Perspective-rs”…

What does US winning look like for you?

Not looking for a debate.

Just want people to put their cards on the table.

I am putting my cards on the table.

IMHO, Iran winning looks like the following:

1. Iran regime survives
2. Iran controls the SoH
3. Iran doesn’t hand over HEU to USA
4. Iran retains full freedom over developing ballistic missiles
5. Iran retains full control over its oil and gas exports and trade

Bonus:

Iran doesn’t allow return of IAEA without release of frozen funds and lifting of sanctions.

WE CAN ALSO ADD A DATE as well.

If USA doesn’t win by Jan 14th it’s probably over.

Definitely over by end of Trump’s term.

Let me ask you, why post this here? I mean you clearly don’t want your answers with a passive aggressive opening line as “Us perspective-rs”

Funnily enough this thread became a refuge for anyone who was unfairly banned or dismissed or harangued out of the Iran war mega thread.

If you want to fucking chest thump go back to the Iran thread.

Thanks

 

[Starlord]

I wonder what victory they are referring to?

Iran's survival is their victory, my disagreement with Iranians ultra-nationalist idiots on one side, but how many countries can say that they took US/Israel and its allies head on and survive. They are pushed back several decades no doubt with almost every military base got massive hits but they needed something to show their people that they won this war, and i think given the mindset of people in this region, it will be celebrated as a win for Iran. But US can also claim victory but they need something to show to its people, republicans will have hard time selling this to people.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Iran's survival is their victory, my disagreement with Iranians ultra-nationalist idiots on one side, but how many countries can say that they took US/Israel and its allies head on and survive. They are pushed back several decades no doubt with almost every military base got massive hits but they needed something to show their people that they won this war, and i think given the mindset of people in this region, it will be celebrated as a win for Iran. But US can also claim victory but they need something to show to its people, republicans will have hard time selling this to people.

Not just survival.

But the ability to determine their destiny.

And the list I gave above.

If scorched earth was “victory” - I guess US also won on points in Vietnam?

 

[BananaRepublic]

Wishful thinking at best.

I have put my cards on the table.

You are welcome to do do as well.

 

[RescueRanger]

Lots of last min shuttle diplomacy. CM headed to M.E, Qataris initiative didn’t yield much, interesting commentary from Washington and China at the same time.

General (Retd) Keane’s assessment of the situation mirrors what many still suspect.

Also… very intriguing movement of certain aircraft over the past 24 hours. [need to confirm if it’s the same flight I suspect they are]. *may post more on this bit later.

 

[Yasser76]

So now US has bombed Iranian territory we will see Iran "Bring down hell inside and outside the region" or as usual will they just make another angry statement?

 

[RescueRanger]

1 Indian seafarer killed 13 rescued from India flagged MSV Al Jusufi (MMSI 4199565) which was stuck on Monday evening off Oman’s coast.
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Edit: apparently this was a small cargo ship leaving the area headed for port in India. It sent out a mayday shortly after being stuck by an unknown aerial projectile the mayday was received by Omani Navy who rescued the 13 sailors who managed to get onto a lifeboat.
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[Yasser76]

I have put my cards on the table.

You are welcome to do do as well.

Or you can just go back to the mutual masterbation society that is the Iranian War thread, that way you will be in good company with the other delusional retards