US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[mythbuster]

Maybe and that could be the worse thing imaginable for the world in general and the region specifically.

Had this been wrapped up and done in July, things could have turned out differently last night.

But, the damage is done and the Republicans paid for it. All Iran had to do was survive until the election. They have. And they are now counting on chaos in Washington starting in January.

Don't understand , are you saying any deal with Iran is the worst thing to happen?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Don't understand , are you saying any deal with Iran is the worst thing to happen?

IMO, yes.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I won't even attempt to explain it to you. You are laser focused on your Twitter reports.

Don’t act dumb now AZ. You were handing out laughs and “fake Twitter reports” when I stated oil flow was back to prewar levels. OSINT reporting was indeed accurate.

Yes, markets are betting on no renewed strikes. That still doesn’t change the fact Iran remains under blockade.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Don’t act dumb now AZ. You were handing out laughs and “fake Twitter reports” when I stated oil flow was back to prewar levels. OSINT reporting was indeed accurate.

Yes, markets are betting on no renewed strikes. That still doesn’t change the fact Iran remains under blockade.

Not acting dumb at all. I'm just reminding you there is a bigger picture you choose not to understand or accept.

 

[mythbuster]

IMO, yes.

My bad , I thought you are looking for peace.

 

[Shags202]

Brent crude down to $100. US stocks also up huge

Why is that because they actually believe the war might actually be winding down they will use the fact that Dems have taken over and they’re the ones that want the war to end Trump can say to his maga crowd he didn’t surrender to “tyranny”dems did

JD Vance blames Iran war and Israel for GOP midterm bloodbath

Vice President JD Vance broke his silence late Wednesday morning on the blue tsunami that completely wiped out Republicans across the country on Election Day, blaming the drubbing squarely on the w…

nypost.com

Sounds pretty defeatist to me

 

[F-22Raptor]

Doesn’t sound like he’s ceding anything

 

[F-22Raptor]

Why is that because they actually believe the war might actually be winding down they will use the fact that Dems have taken over and they’re the ones that want the war to end Trump can say to his maga crowd he didn’t surrender to “tyranny”dems did

JD Vance blames Iran war and Israel for GOP midterm bloodbath

Vice President JD Vance broke his silence late Wednesday morning on the blue tsunami that completely wiped out Republicans across the country on Election Day, blaming the drubbing squarely on the w…

nypost.com

Sounds pretty defeatist to me

That’s JD for you. He’s an isolationist and owns the MOU debacle.

In my view, the US military achieved everything they were asked to do. Their performance was superb.

Politically, the way this war has been handled has been a disaster post Epic Fury. Trump thought he could Delcy Iran. That didn’t work, and they didn’t have a plan B. F-15 shootdown spooked Trump and didn’t let Centcom finish their plan.

Then the MOU disaster and back and forth tit for tat for months. Naval blockade goes up again and been a huge success. Oil flow is back to prewar levels and Iranian exports at zero. But Iran continues to conduct low level terror attacks on commercial shipping and won’t meet Trump demands on nuclear despite its economy cratering. So we’re stuck in this stalemate because the Islamic regime is an evil apocalyptic death cult who cares nothing for its citizens and Trump who can’t decide what his strategic objective is and half assed everything from the get go.

 

[mythbuster]

That’s JD for you. He’s an isolationist and owns the MOU debacle.

In my view, the US military achieved everything they were asked to do. Their performance was superb.

Politically, the way this war has been handled has been a disaster post Epic Fury. Trump thought he could Delcy Iran. That didn’t work, and they didn’t have a plan B. F-15 shootdown spooked Trump and didn’t let Centcom finish their plan.

Then the MOU disaster and back and forth tit for tat for months. Naval blockade goes up again and been a huge success. Oil flow is back to prewar levels and Iranian exports at zero. But Iran continues to conduct low level terror attacks on commercial shipping and won’t meet Trump demands on nuclear despite its economy cratering. So we’re stuck in this stalemate because the Islamic regime is an evil apocalyptic death cult who cares nothing for its citizens and Trump who can’t decide what his strategic objective is and half assed everything from the get go.

No one in his right mind denies the overwhelming military superiority of US , you don't have remind us about it ... important question is what next and you are as clueless about it as anyone else.

 

[PK781]

My bad , I thought you are looking for peace.

The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.
(heard that in a movie, i think Air Force One?)

 

[Shags202]

That’s JD for you. He’s an isolationist and owns the MOU debacle.

In my view, the US military achieved everything they were asked to do. Their performance was superb.

Politically, the way this war has been handled has been a disaster post Epic Fury. Trump thought he could Delcy Iran. That didn’t work, and they didn’t have a plan B. F-15 shootdown spooked Trump and didn’t let Centcom finish their plan.

Then the MOU disaster and back and forth tit for tat for months. Naval blockade goes up again and been a huge success. Oil flow is back to prewar levels and Iranian exports at zero. But Iran continues to conduct low level terror attacks on commercial shipping and won’t meet Trump demands on nuclear despite its economy cratering. So we’re stuck in this stalemate because the Islamic regime is an evil apocalyptic death cult who cares nothing for its citizens and Trump who can’t decide what his strategic objective is and half assed everything from the get go.

Well one all of the objectives weren’t completed you can destroy some centrifuges but from what the reports say they moved quite a bit of equipment and uranium out of those site so objectives there weren’t met.

Naval blockade cool goes both ways Imhave you asked why Iran only takes out 3 to 4 ships daily guarantee those guys are the ones not paying the toll, but again show me 140 ships transiting those straits daily everything is back to near normal anywhere from 6 to 12 at tops 20 decide to risk it and until those reserves are refilled nothing is back to normal.

MOU was agreed upon by everyone including Trump he decided not to honor the agreement

Have you not seen many of trumps inner circle or his maga followers these guys are the ones that are calling for a holy war to hasten the end of times

If you honestly believe this war is going as planned and still is refer to the destruction yes destruction of multiple American bases throughout the Middle East give it up to the Iranians you got to give them some respect because they’re still standing and their government is still there and trump Ian’s the republicans for the mean time are fading away and looks like Bibi is as well these guys faces don’t seem to be saying they are winning anymore

 

[Shags202]

The United States does not negotiate with terrorists.
(heard that in a movie, i think Air Force One?)

Get Off My Plane

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

My bad , I thought you are looking for peace.

There will be peace. Eventually.

But it won't come solely via the negotiating table.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

That’s JD for you. He’s an isolationist and owns the MOU debacle.

In my view, the US military achieved everything they were asked to do. Their performance was superb.

Politically, the way this war has been handled has been a disaster post Epic Fury. Trump thought he could Delcy Iran. That didn’t work, and they didn’t have a plan B. F-15 shootdown spooked Trump and didn’t let Centcom finish their plan.

Then the MOU disaster and back and forth tit for tat for months. Naval blockade goes up again and been a huge success. Oil flow is back to prewar levels and Iranian exports at zero. But Iran continues to conduct low level terror attacks on commercial shipping and won’t meet Trump demands on nuclear despite its economy cratering. So we’re stuck in this stalemate because the Islamic regime is an evil apocalyptic death cult who cares nothing for its citizens and Trump who can’t decide what his strategic objective is and half assed everything from the get go.

Casting blame I see. You're not alone. The usual national talks shows are doing the same today.

Vance was the lone voice in the room who was against the war from the get go.

But, you're right. It was half-assed and the troops did well in spite of the half-assed approach.

But yet, here we are. Again.

I said the same thing in 1991.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Oh, for those babbling about the markets today?

Of course it was expected to react this way. Even an idiot would have seen that.

They see gridlock for the next two years which will allow them the freedom to actually do business.

Because 2028 has already started.

As for Trump, he actually believes he can get along with Democrats in the new year. It's not happening. Even an idiot can see that.