US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[sutton9999]

 

[Davey Crockett]

The inevitable cost of a strategy!

China once did the same thing. We ended up cultivating a great many ungrateful wretches. Fortunately, we soon realized this problem.

Americans understand the problem. The problem is getting rid of the traitors.

 

[Michael]

Americans understand the problem. The problem is getting rid of the traitors.

Unfortunately, I don't understand English......

 

[The SC]

U.S. President Donald Trump to CNN:
- I am unlikely to order a return to war with Iran if progress continues in the talks
- U.S. forces are stationed in the region and are ready to carry out strikes against Iran if necessary
- The Iranians are very eager to reach an agreement
- We destroyed all of Iran’s air defenses
- We have 38 bridges on our target list in Iran, and we can destroy them all in just one hour

 

[The SC]

|MACH 7. THE INTERCEPTOR DOES NOT EXIST.
IRGC Aerospace Advisor, Brig. Gen. Balali:"Our missiles hit at Mach 7.
To stop them, the enemy needs even faster interceptors."Read that sentence again. It is not a threat. It is a physics problem Washington cannot solve.
What Mach 7 Means
Mach 7 is 7 times the speed of sound. Roughly 8,640 km/h. 2,400 metres per second. 2.4 km every single second.
At that speed, a missile crosses the Strait of Hormuz in under 60 seconds. It crosses from launch to Tel Aviv in under 7 minutes. It crosses from launch to a carrier in the Gulf in under 90 seconds.
There is no human reaction time for that. There is only a machine that must see it, track it, calculate an intercept, launch, and hit a target moving at 2.4 km per second while that target is maneuvering.
That machine does not exist in the American inventory.
Why Interceptors Fail
American air defence is built for a different war.
Patriot PAC-3: Designed for Mach 3-4 ballistic missiles on a predictable arc. Against a maneuvering hypersonic glide vehicle, its kill window collapses to seconds.
THAAD: Designed for high-altitude exo-atmospheric intercept. Against a missile that stays low, glides, and changes course in the atmosphere, it is chasing a ghost.
Aegis SM-3 / SM-6: Designed for ships. A ship that must first detect, then track, then fire, while the missile is already inside its radar horizon. In the Strait, the horizon is 30 km. At Mach 7, that is 12 seconds.
To stop a Mach 7 maneuvering missile, you need an interceptor that flies at Mach 9-10, with a seeker that can survive plasma heating, with a datalink that can update in real time, and with a launcher that is already pointed in the right direction.
The US does not have it. Israel does not have it. No NATO state has it.

Balali did not say "we are strong." He said: your defence needs to be faster than our offence. It is not.
The Missile Behind the Quote
Balali is Aerospace Force advisor. He is not talking about a single system. He is talking about a family: Fattah-1 and Fattah-2: Hypersonic glide vehicles, maneuverable in atmosphere, presented as unstoppable because they do not follow a ballistic arc.
Kheibar Shekan / Haj Qasem: Solid-fuel, maneuvering re-entry, designed to defeat Patriot batteries by changing trajectory in terminal phase.
Sejjil / Emad: Longer-range, high-speed re-entry, with decoys and maneuvering warheads.
All of them share the same logic: speed + maneuver = no intercept.
The 56 MQ-9s downed, the 6 MQM-170s harvested by electronic warfare over Qeshm, the 2 LUCAS drones seized those were the slow war.
Balali is talking about the fast war.
What the Enemy Already Learned
The record is the receipt:
Ain al-Asad, 2020: Missiles hit despite Patriot presence. No intercept claimed.
Negev / Ramon / Tel Aviv, April and October 2024: Missiles penetrated Iron Dome, David's Sling, Arrow-2/3, THAAD, and Aegis. Videos showed impacts on airbases.
Hormuz, November 2026: Two tankers hit after violating the closure. No US Navy intercept stopped it. CENTCOM's attempts ended in humiliating defeats, in the IRGC Navy's words.
Fattah-2 test: Iranian state media: cannot be intercepted by any existing defence system. Washington never produced a video proving otherwise.
Balali is not announcing a new weapon. He is announcing that the old excuse "our defences will protect you" is finished.
The Doctrine"Any helper becomes a legitimate target.""Response will not be geographically limited.""Geography will no longer have meaning."That is the same week as Balali's quote. The Aerospace advisor gives the speed. The General Staff gives the geography. The Quds Force gives the front: Hormuz + Bab el-Mandeb as one front.
Mach 7 is the speed of that doctrine.



Trump: Returning to war with Iran is highly unlikely, but I will if necessary.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

|MACH 7. THE INTERCEPTOR DOES NOT EXIST.
IRGC Aerospace Advisor, Brig. Gen. Balali:"Our missiles hit at Mach 7.
To stop them, the enemy needs even faster interceptors."Read that sentence again. It is not a threat. It is a physics problem Washington cannot solve.
What Mach 7 Means
Mach 7 is 7 times the speed of sound. Roughly 8,640 km/h. 2,400 metres per second. 2.4 km every single second.
At that speed, a missile crosses the Strait of Hormuz in under 60 seconds. It crosses from launch to Tel Aviv in under 7 minutes. It crosses from launch to a carrier in the Gulf in under 90 seconds.
There is no human reaction time for that. There is only a machine that must see it, track it, calculate an intercept, launch, and hit a target moving at 2.4 km per second while that target is maneuvering.
That machine does not exist in the American inventory.
Why Interceptors Fail
American air defence is built for a different war.
Patriot PAC-3: Designed for Mach 3-4 ballistic missiles on a predictable arc. Against a maneuvering hypersonic glide vehicle, its kill window collapses to seconds.
THAAD: Designed for high-altitude exo-atmospheric intercept. Against a missile that stays low, glides, and changes course in the atmosphere, it is chasing a ghost.
Aegis SM-3 / SM-6: Designed for ships. A ship that must first detect, then track, then fire, while the missile is already inside its radar horizon. In the Strait, the horizon is 30 km. At Mach 7, that is 12 seconds.
To stop a Mach 7 maneuvering missile, you need an interceptor that flies at Mach 9-10, with a seeker that can survive plasma heating, with a datalink that can update in real time, and with a launcher that is already pointed in the right direction.
The US does not have it. Israel does not have it. No NATO state has it.

Balali did not say "we are strong." He said: your defence needs to be faster than our offence. It is not.
The Missile Behind the Quote
Balali is Aerospace Force advisor. He is not talking about a single system. He is talking about a family: Fattah-1 and Fattah-2: Hypersonic glide vehicles, maneuverable in atmosphere, presented as unstoppable because they do not follow a ballistic arc.
Kheibar Shekan / Haj Qasem: Solid-fuel, maneuvering re-entry, designed to defeat Patriot batteries by changing trajectory in terminal phase.
Sejjil / Emad: Longer-range, high-speed re-entry, with decoys and maneuvering warheads.
All of them share the same logic: speed + maneuver = no intercept.
The 56 MQ-9s downed, the 6 MQM-170s harvested by electronic warfare over Qeshm, the 2 LUCAS drones seized those were the slow war.
Balali is talking about the fast war.
What the Enemy Already Learned
The record is the receipt:
Ain al-Asad, 2020: Missiles hit despite Patriot presence. No intercept claimed.
Negev / Ramon / Tel Aviv, April and October 2024: Missiles penetrated Iron Dome, David's Sling, Arrow-2/3, THAAD, and Aegis. Videos showed impacts on airbases.
Hormuz, November 2026: Two tankers hit after violating the closure. No US Navy intercept stopped it. CENTCOM's attempts ended in humiliating defeats, in the IRGC Navy's words.
Fattah-2 test: Iranian state media: cannot be intercepted by any existing defence system. Washington never produced a video proving otherwise.
Balali is not announcing a new weapon. He is announcing that the old excuse "our defences will protect you" is finished.
The Doctrine"Any helper becomes a legitimate target.""Response will not be geographically limited.""Geography will no longer have meaning."That is the same week as Balali's quote. The Aerospace advisor gives the speed. The General Staff gives the geography. The Quds Force gives the front: Hormuz + Bab el-Mandeb as one front.
Mach 7 is the speed of that doctrine.



Trump: Returning to war with Iran is highly unlikely, but I will if necessary.

Bluffing.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

U.S. President Donald Trump to CNN:
- I am unlikely to order a return to war with Iran if progress continues in the talks
- U.S. forces are stationed in the region and are ready to carry out strikes against Iran if necessary
- The Iranians are very eager to reach an agreement
- We destroyed all of Iran’s air defenses
- We have 38 bridges on our target list in Iran, and we can destroy them all in just one hour

If all of the air defenses have been destroyed, then explain how drones continue to get shot down?

We've been hearing the Iranians have been eager to reach an agreement for awhile now.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Unfortunately, I don't understand English......

For someone who doesn't speak English, your machine-assisted translations have been spot on.

Your posts are more coherent than what a typical US teenager is capable of these days.

 

[Michael]

For someone who doesn't speak English, your machine-assisted translations have been spot on.

Your posts are more coherent than what a typical US teenager is capable of these days.

Let me tell you something rather bizarre.
My everyday English is terrible, but my professional English is passable. I’ve always memorized the meanings of English words by observing their visual shapes—their overall outlines.
There was a time when I couldn’t tell the words "refraction" and "reflection" apart at all; they looked far too similar.
Nowadays, I rely entirely on translation software.

 

[Shags202]

If all of the air defenses have been destroyed, then explain how drones continue to get shot down?

We've been hearing the Iranians have been eager to reach an agreement for awhile now.

We have been hearing that from the Trump and the White House for past year Iran has been begging for an agreement if they were as desperate as he wants everyone to believe they would have accepted the surrender deal months ago give it to the Iranians they are resilient