US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Ali_Baba]

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Looks like no military escalation for now, but the naval blockade will remain in place.

Has Iran agreed the war is over??? Don’t they also get a say?

 

[Davey Crockett]

Has Iran agreed the war is over??? Don’t they also get a say?

Don't the American people have a say? After all, we are paying for it.

(If we had a vote, the majority will bring the troops home)

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Don't the American people have a say? After all, we are paying for it.

(If we had a vote, the majority will bring the troops home)

Our voices don't matter.

 

[Davey Crockett]

People often overlook the power they hold when they no longer consent to be govern by criminals and tyrants.....

The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude | Mises Institute

States are more vulnerable than people think. They can collapse in an instant—when consent is withdrawn.This is the thesis of this thrilling book. Murray

mises.org

La Boétie goes on to make a case as to why people ought to withdraw their consent immediately. He urges all people to rise up and cast off tyranny simply by refusing to concede that the state is in charge.

The tyrant has “nothing more than the power that you confer upon him to destroy you. Where has he acquired enough eyes to spy upon you, if you do not provide them yourselves? How can he have so many arms to beat you with, if he does not borrow them from you? The feet that trample down your cities, where does he get them if they are not your own? How does he have any power over you except through you? How would he dare assail you if he had no cooperation from you?”

Then these inspiring words: “Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

 

[BigMela2onin]

Our voices don't matter.

Admitting it is a good first step, then the question becomes what will ordinary americans do about it? So far the answer seems to be to accept it.

 

[Shags202]

Admitting it is a good first step, then the question becomes what will ordinary americans do about it? So far the answer seems to be to accept it.

To be fair that’s how democracies work you vote people who you think will work to change things but end up working for big corporations and foreign interests trump was just extremely blatant about it all the while still pretending America First

 

[mythbuster]

Don't the American people have a say? After all, we are paying for it.

(If we had a vote, the majority will bring the troops home)

What's new ? America always did that after screwing up everyone.

 

[BigMela2onin]

To be fair that’s how democracies work you vote people who you think will work to change things but end up working for big corporations and foreign interests trump was just extremely blatant about it all the while still pretending America First

My point is that if americans know that's how the system works yet choose to continue to participate within that system, what do they expect? Are they waiting for someone to come change their system for them?

 

[Shags202]

My point is that if americans know that's how the system works yet choose to continue to participate within that system, what do they expect? Are they waiting for someone to come change their system for them?

Yeah that’s why they keep voting because they hope they will elect someone who will finally change the system

 

[mythbuster]

My point is that if americans know that's how the system works yet choose to continue to participate within that system, what do they expect? Are they waiting for someone to come change their system for them?

There's a built-in mechanism in the American system for correction , however it comes into comes into action when the system exhausts all options of stupidity.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

There's a built-in mechanism in the American system for correction , however it comes into comes into action when the system exhausts all options of stupidity.

I don't think we've run out of options yet.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Admitting it is a good first step, then the question becomes what will ordinary americans do about it? So far the answer seems to be to accept it.

What part of my statement wasn't clear? As voters, our voices don't matter. This cycle we vote in hope and change only to find out the hard way the smooth talkers were lying as bad as if not worse than the previous batch, and then we repeat the cycle.

So long as the average American voter insists on keeping their electorate IQ on the low end of the spectrum, this is what we will continue to get.

For those of us who continue to point this crap out, me included; we are branded as extremists and nut cases. Facts like the majority of our elected misrepresentatives are beholden to one of more special interests matter little to everyone else. They are intellectually lazy and take the easy way out.

For those who voted overwhelmingly for the Democrats this time, a bigger sorry surprise awaits them.

The sad thing is, no one seems to learn. Or care that the problem is them.

 

[Cipher212]

There was never any "US perspective" on this war. It's just Israeli perspective imposed on them.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Brent crude down to $89 this morning, lowest in two and a half months.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Has Iran agreed the war is over??? Don’t they also get a say?

Doesn’t matter, because their “say” has been completely ineffective. This war has shifted to an economic one. Major kinetic action has been over for months. Iran has been under full naval blockade for nearly 4 months and will be indefinitely going forward.

They’ve tried hitting tankers crossing the Strait and had minimal success so far. They aren’t striking at scale and what they do hit the majority get repaired. Oil flow is back to prewar levels and Brent continues to decline because major kinetic operations seem to be off the table for now. It’s the Iranian economy being crippled not ours.