US Political News and Trump’s China visit

[Watandar]

Maybe the deceased should have thought it through a little more before taking a loaded gun, with extra magazines, and no ID, to a protest, and then proceed to get in the way of law enforcement.

One of the cop shows I watch on Friday and Saturday nights; numerous times the cops will be detaining someone and will find a hidden gun the detainee didn't say anything about/ More often that not, overwhelming force in taking down the detainee while removing the gun.

How quickly conservatives forget about the 2nd amendment when someone from the "other side" is killed by out of control govt thugs. So much for "I need my guns to fight tyranny". I always knew it was empty bluster.

 

[VCheng]

I think that the "come out strong" is strongly dependent on the replacement of the democrat leadership. Not some guarantee.

Fair enough, but I have my reasons to expect both parties to seek a return to the mean once the poo-flinging Orange Ape is history, beginning later this year. Sure, it will take some time to clean up all the orange shit stains he is leaving all over, but it will happen.

 

[dbc]

Subject was also on the ground, during the process of being disarmed, and surrounded by multiple officers who could have used less than lethal force after being disarmed; more pepper spray, tasers, restraining methods, etc.

Having gotten the opportunity to train with an instructor for the DC police, once the subject is clearly disarmed, use of deadly force is not allowed.

..and some Americans(I have my doubts) on this forum justify the killing saying he had a gun took it to a protest and to quote @SolarWarden FAFO.
He never brandished his gun, didn't unholster it, didn't wave it at anyone. They forget lethal deadly force is only authorized when there is real imminent danger of loss of life or risk of grievous bodily harm. Not only that the agent emptied his entire mag into Pretti and then one of the agents stood over the dead corpse and clapped. You have to be so filled with hate to justify this senseless cruel murder..

 

[FuturePAF]

..and some Americans(I have my doubts) on this forum justify the killing saying he had a gun took it to a protest and to quote @SolarWarden FAFO.
He never brandished his gun, didn't unholster it, didn't wave it at anyone. They forget lethal deadly force is only authorized when there is real imminent danger of loss of life or risk of grievous bodily harm. Not only that the agent emptied his entire mag into Pretti and then one of the agents stood over the dead corpse and clapped. You have to be so filled with hate to justify this senseless cruel murder..

This is why I say this maybe organized at the supervisor level, but they are giving Carte Blanche to under trained or poorly trained people, many with the wrong temperament for the work. Even when the marines were called into LA, many of whom were 1st or 2nd generation Americans of Mexican background, they maintained discipline and limited themselves to the rules. It de-escalated the situation.

The way the feds are working in Minnesota is unnecessarily heightening emotions. It almost seems like what they want to do, antagonize the public.

I hope Alex Pretti gets a Veterans honor guard at his funeral, and the public can line the funeral procession to show the feds that the public stand by the right to protest.

Here is a lawyer’s analysis of the situation. Btw, Pam Bondi wants the voter rolls as a condition to the governer if he wants ice withdrawal. This is about the midterms and the 2028 presidential election.

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Here are things the Dems can demand before the pass the budget this Friday, changes in policy that would make excesses punishable under state law:

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What average Americans can do is reign in their consumer spending in a coordinated campaign and sink key companies, especially the AI companies, who would then put pressure on Trump to reign ICE in. Even a few months of slow down would turn GDP growth negative, and have Wall Street putting pressure on Trump:

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[retaxis]

Maybe the deceased should have thought it through a little more before taking a loaded gun, with extra magazines, and no ID, to a protest, and then proceed to get in the way of law enforcement.

One of the cop shows I watch on Friday and Saturday nights; numerous times the cops will be detaining someone and will find a hidden gun the detainee didn't say anything about/ More often that not, overwhelming force in taking down the detainee while removing the gun.

Of course the guy was in the wrong for resisting but they took his gun then shot him ten times. If nothing is done, u will see more people targeting ice.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

How quickly conservatives forget about the 2nd amendment when someone from the "other side" is killed by out of control govt thugs. So much for "I need my guns to fight tyranny". I always knew it was empty bluster.

Nothing to do about the poor decisions he made about interfering with ICE officers. As I said about the previous incident, we are currently seeing only what the media wants us to see.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Of course the guy was in the wrong for resisting but they took his gun then shot him ten times. If nothing is done, u will see more people targeting ice.

How do you know they shot him 10 times? Or, is that simply speculation on your part?

 

[retaxis]

How do you know they shot him 10 times? Or, is that simply speculation on your part?

U can hear ten shots in the video. He shoots him in 3 separate bursts with the last two bursts when the guy was already dead.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

U can hear ten shots in the video. He shoots him in 3 separate bursts with the last two bursts when the guy was already dead.

Admittedly, I have not listened to the audio portion of the videos. Rarely keep the speakers on.

 

[retaxis]

Admittedly, I have not listened to the audio portion of the videos. Rarely keep the speakers on.

Fair enough but here is one where they say at least ten shots were fired and gun was taken.

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[AZ_HighCountry]

Fair enough but here is one where they say at least ten shots were fired and gun was taken.

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Ok. Will listen to it later. Grandson is coming over to join us for dinner.

 

[VCheng]

How do you know they shot him 10 times? Or, is that simply speculation on your part?

I would wait for the autopsy report.

 

[Master Chief]

I would wait for the autopsy report.

Why would that be made public?

 

[SolarWarden]

Why would that be made public?

Autopsy's are public records majority of jurisdictions in US.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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