US Political News and Trump’s China visit

[313Ghazi]

It won't in a couple of years.

I was talking to a friend I went to College with a couple of months back, we are study partners in our Political Science course at CU Boulder, we were talking about the state of Political affairs in the US.

I was talking to him about the political landscape and why Democrats seem reluctant to challenge the GOP on several different issues. There was virtually no pushback on the One Big Beautiful Bill and no pushback on the different foreign policy.

What he said is something to think about. The current political climate is going to push the population further to the left in the next election cycle. This is the generic Ballot for the 2026 mid-term, as per Real Clear Politics. (Real Clear is one of the right-leaning poll organisations)

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If things stand, 1 year from now, Democrats are going to retake the Congress and Senate. So what's the deal? The deal is, according to my friend, Left is basically going to use everything Trump used to push the agenda further to the left. What Trump is doing is setting up the Playbook for the Democrats to use when they come back into Power. 2026 is most likely going to be worse than 2025. Which means if the GOP loses the 2028 Presidency, we are looking very closely to become China. Look at the socialist candidate rise up in the differnet races, when they come back to Power, you are going to see Dem Presdient hitting Executive Order like Trump did and since SCOTUS sided with most of Trump Executive Order, they can't go back and revert it, once you have a judgment, that's judgement is set, up can't come back and re-judge the case and rule the otherway. It would be even worse if Democrats managed to get 2/3 of either House or Senate or both.

So there are two possible scenarios. Either Trump goes full dictatorship and cancels the 2026 and 2028 elections, he IS going to lose both at the way things are going, this is not going to end well for him if he does that, or he kept on going and loses 2026 (very likely) and 2028 (Somehow likely) and Dem went on full dictatorship mode and heavily susppress the Conservative. The problem is, Trump can't dismantle the entire guard rail for Political Independence in these 4 years, which means he can only issue an Executive Order, which can be reverted once he leaves office, but if the Dem come back and win in 2028, everything is going to be done, depending on how much sway they had in the office. That's not going to end well for the Conservative. So 4 years of that if they win, the possibility of a revolution was there.

That's an interesting theory.

I don't think much will happen when/if the dems win. They're controlled by the same billionaire class Trump is.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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First American Revolution we had a tea party.

Who knows, this time around it may be over coffee.

Being tongue in cheek. What I am pointing out is millions of Americans are being hurt by the policies of this administration.

Hardly anyone around here wear any MAGA hat or t-shirt anymore. A year ago, there was a guy selling MAGA hats, t-shirts, flags, rugs, etc.

 

[FuturePAF]

If Dems win 2026, then most likely Dems will also win 2028, because if they win in 2026, they will take back the Congress, Trump wouldn't be able to do a lot of stuff, and make him a lame duck. Means even Trump had the magic to turn the economy around, he isn't going to when Democrats had the House and/or Senate, which means the economy is going to go down in a spiral in the next 2 years until 2028

On the other hand, I was watching the Gallup Poll, the Dem had run off at +7% generic Ballot in Congress, the last time it happened is when Obama won and took over from Bush, and we see almost a supermajority (think they had 59% of Congress seats) and a 10% swing. This is going to be really bad news for the GOP if the course hold and we are heading is the same direction in 2008.

As for political strategy, the very obvious target is going to be the One Big Beautiful Bill. There is no other way around it. And then probably a further push with Obamacare and running on an expansion of the Social Benefit program, depending on how much damage Trump's tariffs are done to the people.

Good points. It really comes down to 2026. Not just for the Trump agenda but the future of his movement for the next 15-20 years. If Trump’s agenda is derailed in a way where he can still push on the margins but ultimately appear rejected by the voters, will his movement’s allure fade.

The metrics I think most people want the party of their choice to demonstrate are competence, sincerity, and a plan to make some aspect of their lives better for the least amount of disruption or cost.

Between Nov. 2025 and Nov. 2026, the Dems may go into a full tea party-esque fight for the soul of the party, so they are prepared for the midterms. The lackluster performance in 2024 was not only because Trump was at the top of the ticket. Sweeping the midterms can’t be taken for granted.

P.s. Trump most ardent supporters are alienating minorities of all kinds, even people that accepted MAGA on face value. Heck, Vance may be viewed as not loyal enough to MAGA for having an Indian-American wife.

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[j_hungary]

That's an interesting theory.

I don't think much will happen when/if the dems win. They're controlled by the same billionaire class Trump is.

It's not about what the Dem would do; it's about how the right feels. The American Right is more militant than the left. If the left did what Trump did now when they came back to power, the right won't just protest like the left did now.

 

[j_hungary]

Good points. It really comes down to 2026. Not just for the Trump agenda but the future of his movement for the next 15-20 years. If Trump’s agenda is derailed in a way where he can still push on the margins but ultimately appear rejected by the voters, will his movement’s allure fade.

The metrics I think most people want the party of their choice to demonstrate are competence, sincerity, and a plan to make some aspect of their lives better for the least amount of disruption or cost.

Between Nov. 2025 and Nov. 2026, the Dems may go into a full tea party-esque fight for the soul of the party, so they are prepared for the midterms. The lackluster performance in 2024 was not only because Trump was at the top of the ticket. Sweeping the midterms can’t be taken for granted.

P.s. Trump most ardent supporters are alienating minorities of all kinds, even people that accepted MAGA on face value. Heck, Vance may be viewed as not loyal enough to MAGA for having an Indian-American wife.

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The entire MAGA movement is basically different fringe groups brought together by a common goal that is, to further American Nationalism. What Trump 1 succeeded in doing is to basically pull every far right group, sov cit, skin head, and anti-muslim group. They reunited them all under the guise of Nationalism and McCarthyism.

On the other hand, you have the current admin largely "Foreign", Trump's wife is an immigrant, and Vance's wife is also an immigrant. Those would be an issue for most nationalist groups because of the "foreign" interference. Which means this association is very fragile, you have a group that doesn't like the establishment being in the establishment, you have a group that doesn't like immigrants that have an immigrant spouse in the top level. If you look at the current US Government, a lot of them are actually what this group hated, I mean, what do you think about how Sov Cit or Nationalist groups when Kash Patel, an Indian American, was in charge of the FBI??

The only reason this group stays on is because the left is even more fragmented, BLM doesn't talk to the Women's group, Socialists don't socialise with the other, the American left is extremely fragmented, and what these group was waiting on is basically a big stick from the top man to bash them into one place, and Trump is working very hard to make this happen, which is what you see the last no king protest came out, you need a common objective to reunite the left, and Trump is giving them just that.

What can Trump do now? Well, he can try to salvage the US economy and hopefully skim down the dissent. Again, I just don't see how this would happen. Then, the next thing the Conservatives can do is to be more militant. If appeasement did not work (I don't know if they ever tried to begin with), then the second play in the playbook is to bash people in place, tighten up National Security, which you can already see from some tell tale sign, with the declaration of Antifa as Terrorist organisation, and the declaration of National Emergency and the use of National Guard. These are more militant methods to put people in place.

 

[lightning f57]

The USA must go back to her "roots" concerning her philosophy for existence: a shining city on the hill....

The "globalist" adventure is coming to its natural end for the USA....

Ironically IMO, the US taking a similar approach to China domestically and internationally maybe the thing which helps it get out of trouble.

What do I mean by that is make good economic relations, focusing on selling tech and goods/services and improving lives of ordinary citizens on a mass scale. Curtail foreign bases, military adventures let the socalled allies take their own responsibilities so cut overseas spending.

 

[FuturePAF]

The entire MAGA movement is basically different fringe groups brought together by a common goal that is, to further American Nationalism. What Trump 1 succeeded in doing is to basically pull every far right group, sov cit, skin head, and anti-muslim group. They reunited them all under the guise of Nationalism and McCarthyism.

On the other hand, you have the current admin largely "Foreign", Trump's wife is an immigrant, and Vance's wife is also an immigrant. Those would be an issue for most nationalist groups because of the "foreign" interference. Which means this association is very fragile, you have a group that doesn't like the establishment being in the establishment, you have a group that doesn't like immigrants that have an immigrant spouse in the top level. If you look at the current US Government, a lot of them are actually what this group hated, I mean, what do you think about how Sov Cit or Nationalist groups when Kash Patel, an Indian American, was in charge of the FBI??

The only reason this group stays on is because the left is even more fragmented, BLM doesn't talk to the Women's group, Socialists don't socialise with the other, the American left is extremely fragmented, and what these group was waiting on is basically a big stick from the top man to bash them into one place, and Trump is working very hard to make this happen, which is what you see the last no king protest came out, you need a common objective to reunite the left, and Trump is giving them just that.

What can Trump do now? Well, he can try to salvage the US economy and hopefully skim down the dissent. Again, I just don't see how this would happen. Then, the next thing the Conservatives can do is to be more militant. If appeasement did not work (I don't know if they ever tried to begin with), then the second play in the playbook is to bash people in place, tighten up National Security, which you can already see from some tell tale sign, with the declaration of Antifa as Terrorist organisation, and the declaration of National Emergency and the use of National Guard. These are more militant methods to put people in place.

The problem for Trump is his lack of discipline and ability to keep even his own minions on message. He also doesn’t really account for the moves his opponents play. For example, his transactionist bent and need to appear to be winning “bigly” is why it’s even more likely under a Trump administration that Taiwan could be ruled from Beijing under his watch. This is reflected in how analysts are thinking about a Taiwan strategy under Trump.

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At the same time, under Trump, it seems he is going full bore into reasserting the image of dominance in the western hemisphere. But the risk is this kind of destabilization could cause a new refugee crisis, undermining his own goals.

He is not disciplined on key national goals that would allow the US to better deal with an ascendant China.

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[AZ_HighCountry]

100% according to Bannon

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President Trump will not have a 3rd term.

If he does, it will be through a proxy. Much like what Biden was to Obama.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It's not about what the Dem would do; it's about how the right feels. The American Right is more militant than the left. If the left did what Trump did now when they came back to power, the right won't just protest like the left did now.

So you're suggesting the right would do like the left did during the summer of 2020?

Doubtful. There might be some isolated, extremist lone wolf events but nothing like we witnessed during the "mostly peaceful" protests of the 2020.

 

[Meengla]

Beware!

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[AZ_HighCountry]

No.

People want and are content with the pre-Trump status-quo. The leftists that do what a revolution are few and far between, even if they are growing in numbers.

Too many vested interests won't allow a revolution, and the biggest hurdle is the military.

Also, revolutions rely on the military largely remaining on the sidelines, and Trump has shown he has both the political will, and enough support from the military to go after any revolutionary.

We've also the added benefit that too many people are simply too lazy, or afraid, to do much more than protest on social media or maybe show up at a local demonstration. The actual number who would escalate would be far far less.

I've been involved in a lot of discussions in a couple of other circles specific to the military. With so many combat vets the last 30 years, including the last 10 or so who are still active duty, would those troops follow orders that deep down they know might be illegal, or would they turn against their commands?

Yes, we discussed all that under several scenarios with both a Democrat and a Republican President and again with the President of the party in charge being popular and then unpopular.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

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That reminds me. I still need to watch that other post you made.

 

[Meengla]

I call myself a 'liberal' and most of my votes are for the Democrats or the Green Party but there was one Trump 2020. But some of my liberal friends are so far in their own bubble that hard to believe them much of what they say about politics. One, before the 2004 elections, said 'Bush will declare Martial Law and there won't be any elections'.
And that's a college educated guy!
America had the elections even during the Second World War!!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I call myself a 'liberal' and most of my votes are for the Democrats or the Green Party but there was one Trump 2020. But some of my liberal friends are so far in their own bubble that hard to believe them much of what they say about politics. One, before the 2004 elections, said 'Bush will declare Martial Law and there won't be any elections'.
And that's a college educated guy!
America had the elections even during the Second World War!!

You would be what we once called a "Blue Dog" Democrat. Huge difference between them and today's liberals.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Shabbos-Goyim
Israel Shamir • October 23, 2025



The late saint of the communist calendar, Rosa Luxemburg, often called her opponents ‘Shabbos-goyim,’ meaning servants of the Jews. A Shabbos-goy is a non-Jew who toadies to every wish and whim of the Jews, especially in politics, or a non-Jew who is heavily supportive of Israel, says the dictionary. They are a breed apart.

One can argue about how successfully Jews rule the countries they lead. There are more- and less-successful examples. Usually, Jewish rule is good for the king and his coterie, and bad for the ordinary Tom, Dick and Harry. The policies of a foreign cosmopolitan elite might be resisted by the majority population of any country, but once a class of Shabbos goyim has been developed, nobody is able to escape Jewish rule, inevitably ruining the country. That happened with Poland; it was a mighty kingdom that had successfully fought Russia and Turkey. But the Poles allowed the Jews to manage their country, and in no time, Poland collapsed and was partitioned. This happened with Russia; heavy Jewish influence had brought it to the very brink of collapse in 1991, and only with great difficulty was Putin able to stabilise the country. Since the 2014 American coup Ukraine has been ruled by Jews, and now it is being destroyed.

The United States is a country ruled by Shabbos goyim, starting with LBJ, that is, after Nixon. Donald Trump, seemingly an imposing man of respectable age, height and weight, also turned out to be a Shabbos goy. He admitted that much himself when speaking in the Knesset. It turns out that he most often met with a couple of American Jews, casino owners, and they had financed his path to the White House. Even young Kushner, his son-in-law, and older Kushner, his father-in-law, a well-known and convicted fraudster (like most Jewish businessmen), and now the US ambassador to Paris, determine Trump’s actions. Their plan is to destroy Gaza and build a country club for Jews on its ruins, and make a fortune from it.

Americans practically have no choice – all the competing politicians are Shabbos-goyim. Out of 535, there is just one American congressman, Thomas Massie, who doesn’t take Jewish bribes, but what he can do alone? Eventually, the US will collapse, because a country led by pet Shabbos goyim must collapse – and should collapse, because the government does not represent the American people. The power of AIPAC over the US Congress proves that the US is ruled by Jewish donors. Between the Jewish oligarchs and their Shabbos goyim they have pocketed practically all the media. Much of this Jewish largess has been lifted directly from the US Treasury.

“Unconditional support for Israel is a critical litmus test of acceptability by the major media in the U.S. Prospective pundits ‘earn their stripes’ by showing their devotion to Israel (and, presumably other Jewish issues). It seems difficult to explain the huge tilt toward Israel in the absence of some enormous selective factor as the result of individual attitudes. And there is the obvious suggestion that while the Jews on this list must be seen as ethnic actors, the non-Jews are certainly making an excellent career move in taking the positions they do”, wrote Kevin Macdonald.

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Shabbos-Goyim

The late saint of the communist calendar, Rosa Luxemburg, often called her opponents ‘Shabbos-goyim,’ meaning servants of the Jews. A Shabbos-goy is a non-Jew who toadies to every wish and whim of the Jews, especially in politics, or a non-Jew who is heavily supportive of Israel, says the...

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