Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[FuturePAF]

The President is not wrong. The cartels have far more control than we think.

Side note, the US ambassador to Mexico is a former green beret operator and agency guy, Ron Johnson. So we know what the US-Mexican relationship is focused around.

 

[Dalit]

Some interesting comments. Many laughing emojis. Some appear in awe. Perhaps. For the rational mind, this is an abhorrent act. A shameless venture. Even its closest allies are silent, save its rabid dog in the East.

It is akin to a high school student granted a sports scholarship beating up a kindergarten child in a wheelchair. You can laugh and look on in awe all you want.

This is a dangerous precedent and further proves the need for the global south to unite and face this menace.

Welcome to the reality that we had warned you since legacy PDF and long before that..

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

So it’s either abduct the Venezuelan President now or the conflict would continue for at least two more years?

Just stop it already. There has been enough OT posts as it is. Frankly, I admire the patience of the other mods who were covering in my absence today. Had expected to see a lot more posts deleted and a few more thread banned. Y'all have done relatively well behaving yourselves.

 

[Watandar]

Trump admin now bullying oil companies to go back into Venezuela and invest heavily.

Trump admin sends tough private message to oil companies on Venezuela

The White House has told companies they must rebuild Venezuela's crude-pumping infrastructure if they want compensation for assets seized by Caracas.

www.politico.com

This all seems to go back to nationalization of oil by Chavistas. Same pattern seen elsewhere in the world.

 

[Davey Crockett]

The reality of a possible U.S.-Venezuelan confrontation is that while Venezuela cannot win a conventional war, it can make a U.S. intervention a costly, uncertain, and politically explosive gamble. The Venezuelan military’s conventional units are aging, top-heavy, undertrained, and poorly maintained. The navy is almost nonfunctional, the air force is fragile, the army can field modern armor but cannot sustain it, and the air-defense network is limited. However, the Venezuelan government has built a dense internal-control system and an expansive militia network, and it boasts an urban geography that amplifies asymmetric resistance. The Venezuelan military’s operational doctrine reflects this reality: survive the first blows, then disperse, adapt, and bleed an invader politically through guerrilla warfare. Even limited strikes risk setting in motion consequences that U.S. forces could manage tactically, but that U.S. political leaders might find difficult to rein in once the conflict expands beyond the initial use of force.

Weak in Battle, Dangerous in Resistance: Venezuela’s Military Preparedness and Possible Responses to U.S. Action

The dramatic surge in U.S. military power in the Caribbean since August 2025 — anchored by the arrival of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the deployment of F-35s

warontherocks.com

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

which one of those is supposed to have diplomatic immunity at the time they were prosecuted ?

It's been a long day. Meant to say Manuel Noriega.

Daniel would have been Daniel Ortega.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

He’s weight about that. Far too much has been allowed to fester. But Mexico is a hornet’s nest with cartel ops deep into many places in the US. It would be great if Trump could take them out, but it seems a bridge even too far for Trump to be able to pull off.

So to cutoff the supply of drugs, the navy will probably step up inspections of suspected cargo to the western hemisphere as well as probably go after those cocaine labs in South America, to minimize the cartels. Only then going after those that remain able to ship in drugs into the US.

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This is really worthy of its own separate thread. Cartel penetration into the US deeper than many want to believe.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

The US bombed and destroyed Tokyo in the war earlier. Tokyo was one of the largest cities in the world even in the 1940s. The US used incendiary (napalm) bombs in Tokyo, these bombs created a massive firestorm that killed 100,000+ civilians and forced many more to flee from the city. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were struck later. Hiroshima was a Japanese military hub and Nagasaki was an industrial city back then. The Pacific War was absolutely brutal with the belligerents not holding back in clashes. The Battle of Okinawa convinced the US to attack and level Japanese cities one by one. This shift in the use of force convinced Japan to surrender.

Absolutely correct on all points. But, as you stated in a response to me, why let facts get in the way?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I don't think so Mr Crockett. The Venezuelans are done. This is not the Mideast with stubborn people

The lack of casualties in this adventure means many others will now be undertaken in remaining Trump years Cuba, Panama, Greenland should be concerned.

And Canada! Don't forget Canada.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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[Unknown987]

Guerilla Warfare incoming.

U.S. Ran a War Game on Ousting Maduro. Venezuela Fell Into Chaos.​

An official U.S. government exercise during President Trump’s first term forecast turmoil and potential violence in a post-Maduro Venezuela.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/20/us/politics/venezuela-maduro-fallout-trump.html

Time to act like Hamas and defend your people and dignity from the Zionist aggression.

 

[PakAl]

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[_Arabia_]

People are overestimating the role of Venezuelan oil not to mention that it is highly unlikely for the US to control all of Venezuelan oil reserves. Let alone extract it. By the time even 20% of it is extracted, the role and value of oil will be different from what it is today.

Venezuela's oil is ultra-heavy, viscous and sulfur-rich, requiring specialized, costly refining and upgrading, unlike lighter, sweeter crudes found in KSA.

Not to mention decades of underinvestment, mismanagement, cost of extraction (far greater than in KSA - which is the cheapest in the world).

Essentially it is of a very low quality.

No comparison here.

Also the US has no interest in flooding the oil market. It makes little sense from a financial viewpoint.


Any way not the least surprised that a failed state like Venezuela could allow itself to be humiliated in such a fashion. Obviously he must have been betrayed by elements of his own military and intelligence community.

Also not a surprise either as Latin America has been the historical backyard and playground of the US since the Spanish Empire lost its final colony in Cuba some 120-130 years ago. That is unlikely to change in the future. Most Latin American states are already aligned with the US politically and economically. The exceptions are socialist/populists governments that come and go and eventually are removed. When Lula is removed in Brazil, we will have another Bolsonaro that will be aligned with the US. That will eventually change again with the usual cycles but the US will remain the top dog in the region mainly due to lack of competitors in the vicinity.

Russia and China were always irreelvant in the Western Hemisphere.

Obviously moves like this are against all "international laws" but by now few people should take such drivel seriously. Might was always right throughout almost all of recorded history.

Hopefully this new geopolitical reality will give birth to strong Arab leaders that will work towards greater unification within the Arab world, even through force if needed. I personally hope that KSA will annex certain entities in the nearby future. We as Arabs need to protect and follow our interests in our own backyard even through force if necessary but that is a different discussion altogether. Goes for the Muslim world as a whole too. Instead of playing third fiddle or following either the West or East. Arab/Muslim civilization was a superpower and culture of its own always until very recently. We are not part of this mess between West and East and should follow our own interests.

Wish the best to Venezuela though, many Arabs in Venezuela and Latin America as a whole (30-40 million in fact).

The general persecutor of Venezuela (current one) is an Arab for instance.

Tarek William Saab - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Actually Arabs are the "Jews of Latin America" in terms of influence compared to numbers. The richest Latin American is also an Arab (Carlos Slim). Shakira another, probably the most famous Latin American artist. Tons of such examples.

It is a region of the world that KSA for instance has strengthened ties with recently a lot and a lot is done to increase ties on all fronts which I personally support.

Not to mention the influence in music, architecture, cuisine, language (Spanish is heavily influenced by Arabic) that the Spanish brought with them.

Muslims communities are also growing across Latin America.

@Falcon29 this might interest you brother, given the large Palestinian community in Latin America.

Any way this gives a dangerous precedent for other countries and the world in general. What stops stronger nations from doing something similar to weaker ones? Will the US or anybody else for that matter be able to hide behind international law, democracy and what not if US/Western adversaries engage in something similar elsewhere in the world?

Arab and Muslim leadership, if they are smart, really need to take notice here and take the example of North Korea in terms of obtaining the ultimate deterrent.

Yes, North Korea is likely a messed up hellhole that nobody on this forum would voluntarily chose to live in but at least they are most likely "safe" from not only the US invading them but even next door Russia and China.

Still not sure how it is possible to kidnap a president and his wife in such a fashion. This speaks volume about the incompetence of the Venezuelan regime. I don't care about how superior the US is militarily and technologically but a head of state of a country that has supposedly been at odds with the US for 20-30 years, to be kidnapped in such a fashion? Pathetic, no other word to describe it. Internal traitors or not.

Any way, I don't take sides when it comes to internal Venezuelan politics (I don't live in Venezuela and not very familiar with ground realities) but by all accounts it appears to me that Venezuela was/is a failed state on most accounts despite being rich in resources. That is a testament of failure by itself.

Interestingly, this Maduro guy is apparently of Jewish ancestry. Self-proclaimed even.

Venezuela’s ‘anti-Semitic’ leader admits Jewish ancestry

Nicolas Maduro defends Caracas's policies toward Israel, says his grandparents were Sephardic Jews who converted to Catholicism

www.timesofisrael.com

All very strange.

 

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[hasn2009]

Is this real?

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