Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

Warning? I don’t know what they can say if China goes for Taiwan now.
They don't need to say anything, they will just supply a shit load of hi - tech defensive weapons to Taiwan (financed by the new stock of oil gained from Venezuela ) to give a bloody nose to China while going down themselves. Fight China to the last Taiwanese
 
Most of China's oil is/was imported from KSA/Arab world and Russia. Not Venezuela.

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Not sure about India, but they are irrelevant here. Not an adversary of the US either.

I don't think this has much of an impact on China. Not sure what Maduro-ruled Venezuela could do for China any way in the greater scheme of things. KSA alone is a 100 times more important economic partner for China in every way you look at it. One of China's largest trade partners (largest in the Muslim world by far).

BTW KSA has been buying cheap Russian oil later to sell it to China and others with profit, lol, since the Ukraine war.

Everyone out there looks for their own interests first and foremost. Nothing surprising about this.
People get hyped up about nothing.

Facts are that while Venezuela has huge oil reserves, the vast majority of it is low quality and requires very extensive refining which reduces its profitability.

Secondly, the regime of Venezuela is still intact. Apparently, insiders of the regime sold out Maduro.
 
People get hyped up about nothing.

Facts are that while Venezuela has huge oil reserves, the vast majority of it is low quality and requires very extensive refining which reduces its profitability.

Secondly, the regime of Venezuela is still intact. Apparently, insiders of the regime sold out Maduro.
True. However as a non-Chinese observer (although familiar with Chinese history, having visited China myself on numerous occasions and knowing many Chinese acquaintances due to my job in the startup sector and past studies etc.), China, if it wants to challenge the US, at least in its own hemisphere and immediate neighborhood, need to change the age old Chinese viewpoint of the world. In other words get more actively involved in areas where allies or potential allies are located. Not everything can be solved by economic cooperation. At one point in time China needs to show the military stick as well.

If China had a history of empire building outside of its own vicinity, this would all be much different.

The Belt and Road project for instance should have had a military character as well and China should have done far more to try to attract non-aligned states, in particular in Asia and Africa, to chose China or at least give China more leeway.

China is far too inactive outside of its own borders given its economic size (second largest economy in the world), population (second largest in the world), size etc.

I don't know if this is due to ethnic differences or the Asian character that China shares with other Asian nations (Japanese, Koreans = inward looking) but it is a strange phenomenon when you compare it to the empire building and widespread historical influence of a few European countries/ethic groups, Middle Eastern peoples (Arabs in particular) and others.

Same can be said about Indians, even to a smaller degree, not only did they barely have any unified strong entity in their history (until the British colonized them and forced them together) but they too were never great empire builders or had much influence outside of trade. In fact their (South Asias) greatest trade ties where with the Arab world (historically) and more recently South East Asia.

Compare that to a tiny island like the UK for instance.

It sends the wrong signal when Maduro gets kidnapped the day after he is meeting with high-ranking Chinese officials.

My two very quick cents, not really related to Venezuela itself, but rather, as I see it, the Chinese inaction in regards to allies or potential allies across the world.

You will probably disagree with me which is your right obviously but this is how I see it as of today at least. Maybe this will change in the future. Personally I would welcome it as such actions, regardless what you think about Maduro and Venezuela, are largely toxic for the international world order or what remains of it.

Also, China should actively look towards changing the current dynamics with its closest kin (Koreans and Japanese) and emphasize the cultural, linguistic, religious and ethnic/ancestral ties and a common East Asian regional cooperation and future. For whatever reasons, China is disliked by both Koreans and Japanese alike and that is most likely not only due to politics (pro-West alignment) alone. Which is strange as it were the Japanese that were murdering fellow Asians and not the other way around.

Could be due to Chinese internal politics (one-party system, strong powerful central regime) which the new Korean and Japanese generations cannot relate to.

Whatever is going on here, that should be solved before China can rise outside of its own sphere.

And yes, there are similar dynamics at play in the Arab and Muslim world that should similarly be solved and which are similarly taken advantage of by outside powers.
 
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Russia Condemns U.S. Military Strikes Against Venezuela


Iron brother of India finally speaks up.
and the condemnation must have shot down all the Apaches and F35s flying over Caracas :rofl: . what a pathetic bunch of clowns.
 
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🚨 China has lost the Venezuela battle:

$20 billion in oil investments gone, $60 billion in unpaid loans a massive loss.

But China doesn’t shout.
It’s quietly preparing a major response maybe in Taiwan, or through its most dangerous weapon:
The economy.

Beijing could unload U.S. debt holdings a move equal to a financial nuclear bomb.

Tense days ahead. The next conflicts are already taking shape.
 
True. However as a non-Chinese observer (although familiar with Chinese history, having visited China myself on numerous occasions and knowing many Chinese acquaintances due to my job in the startup sector and past studies etc.), China, if it wants to challenge the US, at least in its own hemisphere and immediate neighborhood, need to change the age old Chinese viewpoint of the world. In other words get more actively involved in areas where allies or potential allies are located. Not everything can be solved by economic cooperation. At one point in time China needs to show the military stick as well.

If China had a history of empire building outside of its own vicinity, this would all be much different.

The Belt and Road project for instance should have had a military character as well and China should have done far more to try to attract non-aligned states, in particular in Asia and Africa, to chose China or at least give China more leeway.

China is far too inactive outside of its own borders given its economic size (second largest economy in the world), population (second largest in the world), size etc.

I don't know if this is due to ethnic differences or the Asian character that China shares with other Asian nations (Japanese, Koreans = inward looking) but it is a strange phenomenon when you compare it to the empire building and widespread historical influence of a few European countries/ethic groups, Middle Eastern peoples (Arabs in particular) and others.

Same can be said about Indians, even to a smaller degree, not only did they barely have any unified strong entity in their history (until the British colonized them and forced them together) but they too were never great empire builders or had much influence outside of trade. In fact their (South Asias) greatest trade ties where with the Arab world (historically) and more recently South East Asia.

Compare that to a tiny island like the UK for instance.

It sends the wrong signal when Maduro gets kidnapped the day after he is meeting with high-ranking Chinese officials.

My two very quick cents, not really related to Venezuela itself, but rather, as I see it, the Chinese inaction in regards to allies or potential allies across the world.

You will probably disagree with me which is your right obviously but this is how I see it as of today at least. Maybe this will change in the future. Personally I would welcome it as such actions, regardless what you think about Maduro and Venezuela, are largely toxic for the international world order or what remains of it.

Also, China should actively look towards changing the current dynamics with its closest kin (Koreans and Japanese) and emphasize the cultural, linguistic, religious and ethnic/ancestral ties and a common East Asian regional cooperation and future. For whatever reasons, China is disliked by both Koreans and Japanese alike and that is most likely not only due to politics (pro-West alignment) alone. Which is strange as it were the Japanese that were murdering fellow Asians and not the other way around.

Could be due to Chinese internal politics (one-party system, strong powerful central regime) which the new Korean and Japanese generations cannot relate to.

Whatever is going on here, that should be solved before China can rise outside of its own sphere.

And yes, there are similar dynamics at play in the Arab and Muslim world that should similarly be solved and which are similarly taken advantage of by outside powers.
Sure, all these points come up again and again whenever these incidents transpire.

I think the leaders of China know best what to do. Despite all of these incidents happening in the last few years, China is far stronger today than ever before. So after emotions pass, China just keeps moving forward and gains even more strength and power.

I am sure China will change its foreign policy behavior when it is minimal. Chinese leaders are the most calculating and patient on earth.
 
I don't understand. So the US has the right to invade countries when their assets are nationalized? Does this apply only to the US or to all countries?

This reason applies not only to the United States, but also to all colonial countries.

For example, in the mid-17th century, the East India Company began to gradually invade and colonize India under the pretext of protecting property.

In 1757, the death of British soldiers gave the East India Company an excuse to annex and completely colonize the South Asian subcontinent.

In the 21st century, people around the world were surprised to find that the Indians were the ones who supported Trump's use of this reason to invade Venezuela.
 
There are reports the same unit that captured Maduro just landed in Iraq, wonder why.

Lot of presidents gonna have sleepless nights in the near future.
Kindly provide evidence of this.
 
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🚨 China has lost the Venezuela battle:

$20 billion in oil investments gone, $60 billion in unpaid loans a massive loss.

But China doesn’t shout.
It’s quietly preparing a major response maybe in Taiwan, or through its most dangerous weapon:
The economy.

Beijing could unload U.S. debt holdings a move equal to a financial nuclear bomb.

Tense days ahead. The next conflicts are already taking shape.

Most of these countries are Christian. Those who closed discussion on my article will be ashamed. @admin
 
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But China doesn’t shout.
It’s quietly preparing a major response maybe in Taiwan, or through its most dangerous weapon:
The economy.
Response similar to a third world country to be exact:

CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY​

"China is deeply shocked and strongly condemns the use of force by the U.S. against a sovereign country and the use of force against the president of a country," a ministry statement said.
 
Sure, all these points come up again and again whenever these incidents transpire.

I think the leaders of China know best what to do. Despite all of these incidents happening in the last few years, China is far stronger today than ever before. So after emotions pass, China just keeps moving forward and gains even more strength and power.

I am sure China will change its foreign policy behavior when it is minimal. Chinese leaders are the most calculating and patient on earth.
It is not about what you, I, the Chinese leaders/governments think only, but it is often also about appearance and perceptions by foreigners.

What do you honestly think that potential Chinese allies are thinking when they see a Chinese ally like Maduro getting kidnapped the way he did, just the day after meeting with Chinese officials?

Even one of the few fellow communist entities (the few that remain), a neighbor like Vietnam, has for the past 50 + years had closer ties with far away USSR/Russia that they share nothing in common with other than ideology, unlike next door China.

Also the strength of China today (China could become weaker or stronger) was/is not the topic of discussion when it comes to China's historical (throughout almost all of recorded Chinese history) passivity and inactivity outside of its own borders.

Simply put this has to change if China has any ambition of being anything else than a manufacturing hub and a regional power. That is if the Chinese government (current one) and people even aspire to or want to challenge the US hegemony (so far at least) on a global scale.

That does not seem to be the case from what I have observed and continue to observe.
 
It is not about what you, I, the Chinese leaders/governments think only, but it is often also about appearance and perceptions by foreigners.

What do you honestly think that potential Chinese allies are thinking when they see a Chinese ally like Maduro getting kidnapped the way he did, just the day after meeting with Chinese officials?

Even one of the few fellow communist entities (the few that remain), a neighbor like Vietnam, has for the past 50 + years had closer ties with far away USSR/Russia that they share nothing in common with other than ideology, unlike next door China.

Also the strength of China today (China could become weaker or stronger) was/is not the topic of discussion when it comes to China's historical (throughout almost all of recorded Chinese history) passivity and inactivity outside of its own borders.

Simply put this has to change if China has any ambition of being anything else than a manufacturing hub and a regional power. That is if the Chinese government (current one) and people even aspire to or want to challenge the US hegemony (so far at least) on a global scale.

That does not seem to be the case from what I have observed and continue to observe.
Everything you mentioned is subjective and based in an emotional context.

The results speak for themselves. China is more powerful than ever. Period. It is far more powerful today, than last year, than two years ago and multiple times more powerful than 2020.

If China chimped out after every incident in the last several decades, do you think it would be where it is today?

China's leaders know what they are doing. The results speak for themselves. As you can see, the world is a jungle so it takes a high level of intelligence and management to emerge at the top of the food chain.
 

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