Venezuela - US Conflict: News, Updates

[j_hungary]

Trump says that’s a law enforcement action. Maduro is arrested because of criminal offenses.

He is using the US military; it doesn't matter if this is a humanitarian mission, congress control the defense budget appropriation by passing an annual National Defence Budget Bill (National Defence Authorisation Act/NDAA)

National Defense Authorization Act - Wikipedia

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He can use the DOJ budget and ask the FBI to do it if he wants to claim it to be a law enforcement action, but if you use the military, it has to go through NDAA

 

[Viet]

He is using the US military; it doesn't matter if this is a humanitarian mission, congress control the defense budget appropriation by passing an annual National Defence Budget Bill (National Defence Authorisation Act/NDAA)

National Defense Authorization Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He can use the DOJ budget and ask the FBI to do it if he wants to claim it to be a law enforcement action, but if you use the military, it has to go through NDAA

There is a legal trick. as Rubio says it the action of arresting Maduro is led by FBI with the support by the army, CIA and NSA.
In Germany same same here.
The police can request assistance from the army and secret service. But there are more stringent requirements here in Germany.
Trump can use approved funds for the gov, the secret service funds.

 

[PakAl]

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[Dalit]

That is not a good example, USA got support from common Venezuelan and it's military who considered Maduro as a dictator, in Taiwan scenario it's the opposite, Xi is the dictator and Taiwan people and army support their government.

If at all it'd make more sense to kidnap Xi and bring him to Taiwan and unify mainland to Taiwan.

Sure thing, dabbu.

 

[Corax]

Putin must feel vindicated. Xi Jingping might be emboldened. Modi has already learnt his lesson.

 

[PakAl]

What the world needs to understand it is the dajjalic movement, working hard to be ready for their messiah to come. This is why they're so brutal and fake propaganda is their tool, and majority will be played.

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[MH.Yang]

most analysts are looking at the Cuban Guard and selective General in the Militia. Because the former is responsible for the Presidential protection and the latter is for Caracas Civil Defence.

Maduro's security guard is composed of Cuban agents, all of whom have died in battle. It is impossible that they betrayed Maduro.

The Americans strangely executed the Venezuelan Defense Minister during the evacuation, instead of taking him with Maduro. This operation is very similar to silencing. I personally believe that the high-ranking military officers led by the Venezuelan Defense Minister are traitors.

 

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[PakAl]

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[Ali_Baba]

Sure, all these points come up again and again whenever these incidents transpire.

I think the leaders of China know best what to do. Despite all of these incidents happening in the last few years, China is far stronger today than ever before. So after emotions pass, China just keeps moving forward and gains even more strength and power.

I am sure China will change its foreign policy behavior when it is minimal. Chinese leaders are the most calculating and patient on earth.

China is now in a fighting war with a country that is determined to remain the sole economic, military and political superpower at any cost, and not that looks to put China back into what is considers China's position in the world, one that does not follow any rules of conduct, or war and right now China does not know how to respond.

China's approach seems to be similar to Iran's, and Iran's policy has not worked out for it very well with the potential of further strikes from Israel.

The USA is slowly, progressively starting to own all of China's oil suppliers, Iran is next. Iraq they control already, and Saudi/UAE will not resist any USA pressure ever. Only secure supply is Russia, but Russia's military capabilities have been destroyed in the Ukrainian war.

China is at war with the USA already, it is not a war of "approaches" but one of raw military calculus.

 

[Starlord]

I am glad Pakistan don't have any oil reserves lol I'd say if we find some leave them alone hahahah

 

[Yasser76]

From this report seems like Russian kit was useless.

Months in planning, over in two and a half hours: how the US snatched Maduro

The operation to capture the Venezuelan president and his wife involved at least 150 aircraft, months of surveillance – and reportedly a spy in the government

www.theguardian.com

 

[Yasser76]

I am glad Pakistan don't have any oil reserves lol I'd say if we find some leave them alone hahahah

Might is right is the new mantra. A good air force, 500,000 man army and nukes means we are safe.

Still remember the days in the 90s when everyone was pressuring Pakistan not to go nuclear, insisting nukes made us less safe. Whole western world was dangling carrots in front of us.

Now world is pretty much being spilt along lines of pure military power, not just economics anymore.

US saw Pak bitch slap India, Denmark is a wealthy country but can do jack shit to protect it's own territory. New rules of world order are now shaping up....

 

[Ali_Baba]

How exactly? By keep dumping Chinese manufactured goods into the United States? China becoming factory of the world cannot & will not magically make it a superpower until / unless it starts challenging the US dominance (military or otherwise) across the globe.

Dude - Undermining the USA's industrial capability is one key ingredient to topple the USA.

 

[Starlord]

Might is right is the new mantra. A good air force, 500,000 man army and nukes means we are safe.

Still remember the days in the 90s when everyone was pressuring Pakistan not to go nuclear, insisting nukes made us less safe. Whole western world was dangling carrots in front of us.

Now world is pretty much being spilt along lines of pure military power, not just economics anymore.

US saw Pak bitch slap India, Denmark is a wealthy country but can do jack shit to protect it's own territory. New rules of world order are now shaping up....

Getting nuclear weapons might be the only few good decision Pakistan establishment make, we would've been a goner after 9/11 if it wasn't for nukes, and we have plenty of crazies who would blow half our country up, US can blow the rest.
I'd say the most important aspect of protecting country purely from a military stand-point is to get a strong Air force, and get a Strong Navy, we have seen this in recent major conflicts like Israel/Hez, all those shinny AA guns or pick up trucks or drones of Hezbi bois count for shit when F-35's F-15's and F-16's bomb the crap out of them, same with Iran. And even in BuM it was AF jis ne Laaj rakh li.

I don't see Pakistan locking horns with America any time soon, but of course Geopolitics is weird game, anything can happen anytime, who would've thought Israel bombing Qatar, I think our Army Babus needs to understand that AF and Navy has to be strongest, if you want to save Pakistan, because any major power be it America/China/Russia will not deploy troops where man against man fights happen, first the Air forces will dominate the skies and bomb the crap out of foot soldiers, who will be powerless against any air strikes specially after the stand-off weapons.

we need to increase size of AF, add more Naval ships and spend money on Air defense, and of course for Dollars sake, fix the damn economy. But one major problem for us is terrorism, just like a day or 2 ago we have a BRA chap with 2000+ lbs of explosive ready to liberate Baluchistan by killing thousands of innocent civilians in Karachi, how can we progress or even become stable when we have people like that in our country?

but lets get back to Venezuela, I mean they never stood a chance against USA to begin with, I mean US can beat China/Russia combined in a conventional war in their own backyard if they use their entire military might, a country with little to no defense or AD or jamming or AF can't do shit, I mean with Maduro gone the acting President and politicians already asking America for Peace, and mostly like they will say you keep Maduro and do whatever, we will allow US Oil companies to drill baby drill just don't kill or kidnap us. Will the life of everyday Venezuelan's be change that's only time will tell.