Vote Dr. Jill Stein as a protest against the Zionist Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians

[j_hungary]

while the majority doesn’t care…it’s true…
There are still some with a conscience that will not stand for genocide(and their government’s support of it) no matter how far away it is.
I am one of those ppl…
…the only thing I’m debating here with others…is the fact that Jill Stein isn’t a realistic option…as she will not win.

So better to use ur vote to bring forth the candidate that is the least worse. Other than our meager voting power…we the average people have no other means to bring about any real change…
…the only real change can be brought about with wealth(which we the average ppl lack greatly). I have some examples of this in my long winded post above…like that of Chris Christie apologizing to his wealthy donor for using a word not to his donor’s liking.
So unless we happen to stumble into billions of dollars on our way home…just use ur vote for the least horrible person(who has a realistic chance of being in power).

The only real change with regions lies on international pressure, this is not something just changing US is going to change.

The key to unlock the Palestinian issue is to get international community to stand behind the issue, and back US and Israel into the corner, then and only then we can see a suitable solution, without international community to restrain and maintain peace between the two regions, we can say or do what we want, and it wouldn't change a thing from the ground perspective.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The only real change with regions lies on international pressure, this is not something just changing US is going to change.

The key to unlock the Palestinian issue is to get international community to stand behind the issue, and back US and Israel into the corner, then and only then we can see a suitable solution, without international community to restrain and maintain peace between the two regions, we can say or do what we want, and it wouldn't change a thing from the ground perspective.

That’s easier said than done. As US/Israel together have plenty of money and firepower all alone…
…and lately they have even stopped caring about the optics of it…just blatant genocide(and support of such genocide).

 

[j_hungary]

That’s easier said than done. As US/Israel together have plenty of money and firepower all alone…
…and lately they have even stopped caring about the optics of it…just blatant genocide(and support of such genocide).

technically, if China and Russia are willing to put boots on the ground on a UN mission, that probably would be suffice, you need UN force that are not push over and really do stand for change, the Irish and African peacekeeping force they had in South Lebanon did nothing but watch. the question is, will they?

But yes, this is easier to said than done. But this probably will be easier to try to change the long standing US stance on Israel......

 

[SaadH]

If yes, you only do it for your own selfish reasons of self preservation.


It isn't about Jill Stein winning either. It's about those who supported the genocide losing.

Vote Jill Stein & let them know your vote isn't taken for granted.

Think about it.

It isn't about self-preservation either. Obama before Harris the previous supposed lesser of two evils, deported more people than all previous presidents combined and twice as many as Trump. Effectively had a muslim ban in place, when Germany was accepting 1 million muslim refugees a year, Obama was only accepting around 1500. Was the first one who put migrant kids in cages. Never shut down Gitmo. Bailed out banksters of wall street and let the under water homeowners get foreclosed on. Didn't pass healthcare for all when he had super majority. Codified and normalized torture and other war crimes. Dropped more bombs on Muslims than even Bush.

It's all about being a political hack with no ethics or morals. They want to vote democrats because they are under the illusion of being part of a political entity to feel good when the main stream media gushes over an absolute establishment puppet and to think to themselves yes I had a part in getting her there while watching CNN/MSNBC and sipping on gin and tonic.

 

[KingQamaR]

Americans pls, Give Jill Stein a chance. She has earned it. Even if you think she will not win, YOU do the right thing, for the sake of humanity. If she loses, it's either Kamala or Trump and nothing in America will change for the better. But if Jill Stein wins, she could very well bring about that wave of change your all waiting for.

 

[Cookie Monster]

technically, if China and Russia are willing to put boots on the ground on a UN mission, that probably would be suffice, you need UN force that are not push over and really do stand for change, the Irish and African peacekeeping force they had in South Lebanon did nothing but watch. the question is, will they?

But yes, this is easier to said than done. But this probably will be easier to try to change the long standing US stance on Israel......

China and Russia have other priorities closer to home(their own strategic goals)…they will not risk a war(that has the potential of becoming a world war with nukes involved) and spend billions all in the name of the right thing to do and that too for someone else(as they feel no kinship to Palestinians). So it’s a moot point…
…more a dream than ever having a chance of becoming reality. UN is a cuck force…bcuz of the way it is set up. It only stops genocides and wars…that the west is willing to stop. If the west wants to go through with something UN can’t do anything other than maybe issue feel good statements(as we saw in the Iraq war).

 

[j_hungary]

China and Russia have other priorities closer to home(their own strategic goals)…they will not risk a war(that has the potential of becoming a world war with nukes involved) and spend billions all in the name of the right thing to do and that too for someone else(as they feel no kinship to Palestinians). So it’s a moot point…
…more a dream than ever having a chance of becoming reality. UN is a cuck force…bcuz of the way it is set up. It only stops genocides and wars…that the west is willing to stop. If the west wants to go through with something UN can’t do anything other than maybe issue feel good statements(as we saw in the Iraq war).

This is the thing, it's always between a rock and a hard place.

Is it easier to have Russia and China to drop their priority and lend a hand on the issue? Or is it easier to have the US to change course?

 

[Cookie Monster]

This is the thing, it's always between a rock and a hard place.

Is it easier to have Russia and China to drop their priority and lend a hand on the issue? Or is it easier to have the US to change course?

Personally I don’t think it is going to change. This may sound strange if u don’t believe in the Abrahamic religions…but slowly the world has been heading to the point that was long foretold…as if it is predestined.

Judaism: Jews are waiting for the long foretold messiah that they believe will come and triumph over evil…creating an era of peace and harmony.
Christianity: Christians believe that Jesus will return to earth when Jews have returned to Israel and rebuilt the temple. Jesus will lead the battle against the false prophet.
Islam: In Islam it is believed that Jesus would return(per Islam he was raised to heaven and never crucified) and would indeed fight against the false prophet in a great battle of good and evil…and kill the false prophet…establishing peace and harmony on earth.

U can see the parallels in all 3…with slight variations.
Per Islamic and Christian traditions…Jesus was the messiah…which obviously a large majority of Jews missed while he came to them. So when the false prophet comes…a large majority of them would mistakenly think of him as the messiah.
And again as per evangelical christians and Islamic traditions…if Jews will be found hiding behind an object…that object would speak that he/she is hiding behind me. I think it mentions some tree that would be the only thing that would hide them(can’t recall the name of that tree at the moment).

This is why evangelical Christians support settling Jews in Israel…it is to hasten the return of Jesus…
…it’s not out of love for Jews as a displaced ppl who need a homeland to be safe or whatever other holocaust type of stuff that is often used. It is basically leading the sheep to slaughterhouse for their own purposes.

In short…in their haste of making these prophecies come true…they forget the part that mentions the insane amount of suffering, chaos, and war that would be unleashed as a result(per all 3 religions)…it literally is the source of the word Armageddon.

I am not the end is nigh type of guy…but I’ve only ever seen the world events unfold in a manner, which keeps us getting closer and closer to those prophecies.

- There was a time when there was no Israel.
- It was created in 1948…Jews started mass migration there.
- It expanded
- It expanded some more
- Palestine only exists in name now
- Expansionist settlements started(doesn’t matter if UN deems them illegal…who is gonna force the law?).
- Jerusalem became Israel’s capital(now recognized by the US and that’s all that matters whether one likes it or not).
At the rate things are going…
Next up…greater Israel, then rebuilding of the temple, etc.

if ppl can be so blinded and morally corrupt to kill and bomb another ppl so mercilessly(doesn’t matter the race, color, or religion)…then perhaps humanity really deserves an Armageddon.

 

[halupridol]

You sound like a Dalit. America needs to break the Zionist shackles that hold it hostage. Otherwise, America is great.

Dalit >>infinitely better thn being a darpok bhayya.
Why bekaaz
I ain't no day labourer,I good educated but
I couldn't do nothing in my own country ,I know what's wrong in my country,I know whos wrong,I know why it's wrong,I even know what's to be done to correct it. But alas, baap bada na mayya,sabse bada rupayya for every darpok bhayya.
I can do anything for 2 xtra dollars.so I run away.
But I very honest,very brave,very izzatdar and offcourse without a shread of doubt very religious.
I show morality anonymously on internet.
I do my part well.N yeah it's gonna make a difference ,be it Pakistan, Palestine or Amrica. I did my part .Ekdum 1000% zannatti quota milega. I stonkly believe it.

 

[halupridol]

And by the by, all of you posting here,why is there no one within you American Pakistani guys who actually comes out in media and puts your point forward.
It's not education,it's not influence,you know what it is .

 

[halupridol]

Sirf anonymously internet ke kisi tucche koney pe apni opinion deke saari responsibility khatam,hahaha.
Aur sochte ho Pakistan Aisa kyun hai

 

[Ali_Baba]

President has no control on both house, their office is separated.

If you vote for Stein, you vote for her, same with Trump and Harris, you need to vote separately (albeit on the same form) on congress, senate and state election.

Unlike British parliament system there are no hung parliament nor power broker, there can be independent congressmen and senator. But as long as you don't get to a point where you need them to achieve supermajority (Which is very, VERY rare as this is our forefather designed that way), the independent are pointless.

US is unlike UK or Australia, the American is not a winner take all system (where the same party control Prime Minister Office, Upper and Lower house), you can have a President on one party and the houses on the other.

Are there other official parties? We have democracts and republications of course. But is there any diversity in other political parties? Or are they some, but the American mindset is so wedded to two parties that they dont bother?

Does seem that the only way to break out this cycle is for the development of a third party ( but i will still confess to not fully understanding the setup! ).

 

[j_hungary]

Are there other official parties? We have democracts and republications of course. But is there any diversity in other political parties? Or are they some, but the American mindset is so wedded to two parties that they dont bother?

Does seem that the only way to break out this cycle is for the development of a third party ( but i will still confess to not fully understanding the setup! ).

There are tons of different parties in the US. Even now, you have Greens (Which Jill Stein stand for), you have Libertarian, there are even a Communist Party in US. The Democratic-Republican rivalry is only a thing in the last 100 years.

The thing is, beside major party, most other don't have enough money to run for presidency. Everything, from campaign to being certified in state (so the state can vote for you) to nominate elector cost money, not sure about FEC requirement for political party to run in a certain election (I assume there are some other requirement) but if you don't have a backer, then the entire affair of an election is going to bankrupt you as it ran into hundred of millions of dollars.

 

[clutch]

Dalit >>infinitely better thn being a darpok bhayya.
Why bekaaz
I ain't no day labourer,I good educated but
I couldn't do nothing in my own country ,I know what's wrong in my country,I know whos wrong,I know why it's wrong,I even know what's to be done to correct it. But alas, baap bada na mayya,sabse bada rupayya for every darpok bhayya.
I can do anything for 2 xtra dollars.so I run away.
But I very honest,very brave,very izzatdar and offcourse without a shread of doubt very religious.
I show morality anonymously on internet.
I do my part well.N yeah it's gonna make a difference ,be it Pakistan, Palestine or Amrica. I did my part .Ekdum 1000% zannatti quota milega. I stonkly believe it.

I don't really care.

 

[clutch]

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