Whatever

[Sharma Ji]

See I am a Parsi. You are a Hindu, but from the south.

Is it not true (speaking about the prof) that large parts of Hindu population do not consider Lord Ram as an important or anywhere central deity in their worship?

Cheers, Doc

It doesn't matter

Himachal me, for example.. every other peak either is, or there resides at any rate, a this or that "devi"

Bengal m Durga pooja, toh Maha me Ganpatti bappa matka phodings, South me alag harvest sharvest ke chalde fastival...

diversity

 

[indushek]

Same with the rest of India outside of the Sangh BJP north Hindi cow belt.

Even here in Maharashtra.

Cheers, Doc

True sir, but Rama has his own place in hearts of Hindus. He need not be a central deity for many, when it comes to individual families. Thing is that, there are concepts of Family Deity, Personal Deity, Community Deity etc etc. in Hindu faith.

So its hard for any one God in Dharmic tradition, to be the main one. Intelligence is when we realize, its the same Paramatma manifesting himself in these different forms depending on situation in this world.

Rama is special in that, he was born then lived and died, as a Human. Fought Demons as a Human, with no other power than knowledge of Astras. A God coming down to Human level, because one of the Hindu Trinity gave a boon to a Demon. A Demon who due to his species superiority complex, thought Humans and Vanaras can never cause his downfall.

Even if we take it all as a myth, the way Rama lived his life is an example in itself. The word Rama Rajyam isn't famous, just like that.

 

[Vox Non Dei]

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BBC carrying the story too now.

Cheers, Doc

Most Hindus do not watch BBC either. Honestly, BBC doing a piece on Sankracharya is like showing fishes a documentry on why and how to swim. Yeah, we know it from childhood. Thanks but no thanks.

 

[indushek]

Most Hindus do not watch BBC either. Honestly, BBC doing a piece on Sankracharya is like showing fishes a documentry on why and how to swim. Yeah, we know it from childhood. Thanks but no thanks.

BBC saying anything about India, is mostly Rakshasas giving explanation on Vedas.

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Is it not true (speaking about the prof) that large parts of Hindu population do not consider Lord Ram as an important or anywhere central deity in their worship?

Large is relative. UP alone is larger in population than most of the countries on the planet. And no, Ram is not central. Actually there is no central "God" in Hinduism. There is a famous story about who is the biggest among the Trinity.

The issue here is very very different. A lot to do with geography of the region and lot less to do with who is central.

 

[vsdoc]

True sir, but Rama has his own place in hearts of Hindus. He need not be a central deity for many, when it comes to individual families. Thing is that, there are concepts of Family Deity, Personal Deity, Community Deity etc etc. in Hindu faith.

So its hard for any one God in Dharmic tradition, to be the main one. Intelligence is when we realize, its the same Paramatma manifesting himself in these different forms depending on situation in this world.

Rama is special in that, he was born then lived and died, as a Human. Fought Demons as a Human, with no other power than knowledge of Astras. A God coming down to Human level, because one of the Hindu Trinity gave a boon to a Demon. A Demon who due to his species superiority complex, thought Humans and Vanaras can never cause his downfall.

Even if we take it all as a myth, the way Rama lived his life is an example in itself. The word Rama Rajyam isn't famous, just like that.

Could Ravan have been Zoroastrian?

Serious question.

@Joe Shearer what is the approximate timeline of Lord Rama and his life?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Vox Non Dei]

BBC saying anything about India, is mostly Rakshasas giving explanation on Vedas.

Lets not demonise Rakshaksa. LOL! Many of them were actually very learned. BBC is just ignorant in these matters.

 

[vsdoc]

Most Hindus do not watch BBC either. Honestly, BBC doing a piece on Sankracharya is like showing fishes a documentry on why and how to swim. Yeah, we know it from childhood. Thanks but no thanks.

That wasn't the point at all, but ok.

Cheers, Doc

 

[vsdoc]

BBC saying anything about India, is mostly Rakshasas giving explanation on Vedas.

But your Rakahasas (Asuras/Ahuras) were who wrote your oldest Vedas.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Could Ravan have been Zoroastrian?

Unlikely. According to the legends he was born to a Brahmin sage (IIRC) and a Rakshasa woman. In Hinduism, its the father's religion that is followed. Besides, pray tell me, since when Zoroastrians started to accept children born out of a non-Zoroastrian father as Zoroastrian?

 

[vsdoc]

Unlikely. According to the legends he was born to a Brahmin sage (IIRC) and a Rakshasa woman. In Hinduism, its the father's religion that is followed. Besides, pray tell me, since when Zoroastrians started to accept children born out of a non-Zoroastrian father as Zoroastrian?

Wasnt Ravana an Asur.

If so, he was Zoroastrian.

The Kauravas for instance, came from a Zoroastrian princess mother.

Insofar as that is then concerned, both your epics are related to and celebrated/venerated as victory over your cousins.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Vox Non Dei]

Wasnt Ravana an Asur.

If so, he was Zoroastrian.

Cheers, Doc

He was famously a Brahman. Ram had to do penance for killing him. If the legends is to be believed.

 

[indushek]

Could Ravan have been Zoroastrian?

Serious question.

@Joe Shearer what is the approximate timeline of Lord Rama and his life?

Cheers, Doc

Hardly, he is the offspring of a Rishi Vishrava and the Rakshasa King's daughter Kaikasi

He was exceptionally well read on four vedas, and learnt it from his father.

 

[vsdoc]

Satya-est vachan.

Imagine ....

Cheers, Doc

 

[Sharma Ji]

Ravand was the biggest bhakt too

uski salvation ho gai